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I just showed you the 15.5ft difference in terms of CE884, the West plat, the LOS to the snipers rifle, the limo's position on the street.

But, I guess I'm off by 15.5ft according to Craig, who has yet to refute any of this, but with meaningless words.

Why don't you locate Towner's position and plot it for us Craig?

Cutler, Myers and Don R. have done a fairly good job and they all align with Position "A".

Since you don't understand the importance of any of this, I won't expect much.

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I just showed you the 15.5ft difference in terms of CE884, the West plat, the LOS to the snipers rifle, the limo's position on the street.

But, I guess I'm off by 15.5ft according to Craig, who has yet to refute any of this, but with meaningless words.

Why don't you locate Towner's position and plot it for us Craig?

Cutler, Myers and Don R. have done a fairly good job and they all align with Position "A".

Since you don't understand the importance of any of this, I won't expect much.

Thanks for proving my point.

"Cutler, Myers and Don R. have done a fairly good job and they all align with Position "A"."

FAIRLY GOOD. As in ESTIMATED. Do they really align or do they align fairy good? . I could do no better and neither can you. All you can do is ESTIMATE

And you just showed us the fact that the documentation and the ESTIMATED distances don't match. All of which means they got DIFFERENT NUMBERS when they made their ESTIMATIONS and made some data entry errors.

These are RECREATIONS not the real event. You can't understand the importance of this so I'm not expecting you you ever 'get it".

Great work Chris, the find of the century..that GARBAGE IN equals GARBAGE OUT.

All hail the fantasy master Chris Davidson!

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CE884 listing for frame 161= 137.4ft

Another 15.5ft difference.

Gee!!! What a coincidence.

Tell us once again, Craig, what did the WC use as their impact point?

Was it:

A. The limo front

B. JFK's head

C. Both of the above

D. Chalkmarks

E. JFK's bobblehead with a neck stretch of 15.5ft

F. Throw in your own

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CE884 listing for frame 161= 137.4ft

Another 15.5ft difference.

Gee!!! What a coincidence.

Tell us once again, Craig, what did the WC use as their impact point?

Was it:

A. The limo front

B. JFK's head

C. Both of the above

D. Chalkmarks

E. JFK's bobblehead with a neck stretch of 15.5ft

F. Throw in your own

Chris did they even use the correct limo?

Duh.

Congrats....GIGO. Great work [/sarcasm]

Chris the fantasy master strikes again.

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CE884 listing for frame 161= 137.4ft

Another 15.5ft difference.

Gee!!! What a coincidence.

Tell us once again, Craig, what did the WC use as their impact point?

Was it:

A. The limo front

B. JFK's head

C. Both of the above

D. Chalkmarks

E. JFK's bobblehead with a neck stretch of 15.5ft

F. Throw in your own

OMG...

So Chris. Is the distance to the rifle in the window really the actual distance or is it the distance to the BOTTOM of the TSBD like you have it drawn?

Lets do some rough math and assume for this little exercise the street is level..just for the sake of argument.

A squared + B squared = C squared...

80 x80 = 6400 50x50 = 2500 ( assumption the sniper window is 50' above the street) 6400 = 2500 = 8900 Square root of 10000...or the distance to the sniper rifle in the window. 94.3 feet

If you use the CORRECT figures does it equal 91.6 feet Chris?

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lets try it again..122x122 =14884 50x50=2500 14884+2500=17384 Square root of 17384=131.84

LOL!

Ok, West has the Window sill at 60 feet. Lets look again

So 91.6 feet of distance to the rifle equals 70 feet from the base of the TSBD. Plot it on CE585 and its now 72 feet at 5 foot above the pavement.

Time for you to regroup and start all over again Chris...

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Craig,

Why don't you tell us which RIGHT TRIANGLE you applied the P theorem to.

Here are the sides for you.

The blue lines might help.

chris

P.S. Why do you think I didn't use it in the first place.

Its the right triangle UP THE SIDE OF THE TSBD...to the window.

DISTANCE TO RIFLE IN WINDOW...NOT distance to bottom of the TSBD wall...

Back to the drawing board Chris. All your work just got tossed INTO THE GARBAGE CAN

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TSBD rifle in window @ 60.7ft elevation

Rifle in Window LOS to JFK @ 91.6ft as per CE884.

91.6 squared = 8390.56ft

60.7 squared = 3684.49ft

The other leg = square root of 8390.56-3684.49 = 4706.07= 68.6ft.

The right triangle is formed.

chris

DUH, I just told you that above.

Still puts all of your work in the garbage can.

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TSBD rifle in window @ 60.7ft elevation

Rifle in Window LOS to JFK @ 91.6ft as per CE884.

91.6 squared = 8390.56ft

60.7 squared = 3684.49ft

The other leg = square root of 8390.56-3684.49 = 4706.07= 68.6ft.

The right triangle is formed.

chris

What is the straight line distance measurement between Position "A" and Station# 2+00?

Doesn't have to be exact.

1inch = 10ft

I'd say approx 69ft.

chris

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TSBD rifle in window @ 60.7ft elevation

Rifle in Window LOS to JFK @ 91.6ft as per CE884.

91.6 squared = 8390.56ft

60.7 squared = 3684.49ft

The other leg = square root of 8390.56-3684.49 = 4706.07= 68.6ft.

The right triangle is formed.

chris

What is the straight line distance measurement between Position "A" and Station# 2+00?

Doesn't have to be exact.

1inch = 10ft

I'd say approx 69ft.

chris

Roflmao

Chris does the backstroke instead of dealing with the reality he made a major, boneheaded mistake.

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TSBD rifle in window @ 60.7ft elevation

Rifle in Window LOS to JFK @ 91.6ft as per CE884.

91.6 squared = 8390.56ft

60.7 squared = 3684.49ft

The other leg = square root of 8390.56-3684.49 = 4706.07= 68.6ft.

The right triangle is formed.

chris

What is the straight line distance measurement between Position "A" and Station# 2+00?

Doesn't have to be exact.

1inch = 10ft

I'd say approx 69ft.

chris

Roflmao

Chris does the backstroke instead of dealing with the reality he made a major, boneheaded mistake.

Craig,

I am talking about street distances, not elevation differences.

Why don't you take a measurement from the snipers nest at street level, out to Station# 2+50, and give us the result?

chris

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TSBD rifle in window @ 60.7ft elevation

Rifle in Window LOS to JFK @ 91.6ft as per CE884.

91.6 squared = 8390.56ft

60.7 squared = 3684.49ft

The other leg = square root of 8390.56-3684.49 = 4706.07= 68.6ft.

The right triangle is formed.

chris

What is the straight line distance measurement between Position "A" and Station# 2+00?

Doesn't have to be exact.

1inch = 10ft

I'd say approx 69ft.

chris

Roflmao

Chris does the backstroke instead of dealing with the reality he made a major, boneheaded mistake.

Craig,

I am talking about street distances, not elevation differences.

Why don't you take a measurement from the snipers nest at street level, out to Station# 2+50, and give us the result?

chris

Get off it Chris and just admit your error. You screwed up. Deal with it.

You read it wrong and..,finally... Someone caught it.

Reality bites.

Get back to us when you have tossed this work in the garbage and you have something valid.

Thats NOT now.

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Craig,

Street distances.

The answer to my previous question is 66.2ft

So my error was taking measurements from street level!!!! What error?

If the street distances are wrong, then show me the error.

chris

CHRIS...quit the shucking and jiving. You screwed up. Just admit it and redo your work. Or look really foolish...your choice. I'm betting of foolish.

91.6' ROFLMAO!

Carry on, its your funeral.

Added on edit.

You don't even have the face of the TSBD correct. The Plat has it wrong. I found that some time ago as did Martin Hinrichs who shows it on his CAD map. You are plotting your positions from a fantasy location...GIGO..as usual

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