The Boston Bombing and Dealey Plaza

[Len Colby]

Boston Bombing Suspects: FBI, Homeland Security withheld Information from Local, State Police, Congressional hearing confirms

By Barry Grey

Global Research, May 11, 2013

World Socialist Web Site

http://www.globalresearch.ca/boston-bombing-suspects-fbi-homeland-security-withheld-information-from-local-state-police/5334671

The Boston police commissioner and a top Massachusetts Homeland Security official told Congress Thursday that the local and state police were never informed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation or the Department of Homeland Security of multiple warnings about Tamerlan Tsarnaev prior to the April 15 bombings at the Boston Marathon.

There were no 'warnings' the FBI was asked about the older brother. As far as is know as this point they only got one such request (the CIA got another). The FBI claims they discovered nothing suspicious about him and got no response for more info.

There are also reports that the Russian internal security service gave the FBI a case file on Tsarnaev in November of 2012, after Tsarnaev’s return from Russia, outlining multiple contacts between the ethnic Chechen US resident and known members of the Islamist underground in Dagestan, which borders Chechnya.

Really reports from whom?

On May 1, moreover, the British Daily Mail reported that Saudi Arabian officials sent a written report in 2012 to top US Homeland Security Department officials detailing their concerns about Tsarnaev and warning that he might be planning a terror attack.

That was based on the claims of an anonymous Saudi government source and supposedly confirmed by an anonymous USG one. The Saudis supposedly investigated him because he applied for a visa to visit Mecca but no other media outlets are reporting such a warning or that he applied for a visa. The Saudi embassy denied both claims.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317493/Saudi-Arabian-ambassador-Washington-DENIES-nation-warned-United-States-Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-2012.html

In his testimony, Police Commissioner Davis said that an officer of US Customs and Border Protection, a unit of the Homeland Security Department, who served on the task force and had knowledge of Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s travels did not notify any of the four Boston police officers assigned to the group.

Citation!?

There is no innocent explanation for a decision by the FBI, the CIA and the Homeland Security Department to conceal from the state and local police, in advance of a major public event, the presence of area residents widely suspected of having terrorist connections. To even suggest that such a decision would be made by these agencies out of civil liberties concerns is preposterous

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Really? I Google the author's name he is a mysterious figure who seems not to share any details about his experience and expertise, thus we can presume he has none law enforcement , terrorism, intel. etc. and failed to cite anyone with such a background who backs his assessment.

[Len Colby]

Len, you are quick on the trigger.

Is Williams calling Americans, "foreign fighers"? Why does he hate the U.S.?

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130420/NEWS/304200341

UMD professor: 'I hope I didn't contribute' April 20, 2013

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In Williams' view, Chechnya has an undeserved reputation as a hatchery of terrorists, including al-Qaida and the Taliban.

"Foreign fighters did come in and radicalized people," Williams said. For some, "they transformed the form of war from a national one to a full-blown terrorist jihad."...

http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130419/NEWS/130419860&cid=sitesearch

UMD professor: 'I hope I didn't contribute'

April 19, 2013

Two years ago, UMass Dartmouth professor Dr. Brian Glyn Williams communicated by email with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, then a 17-year-old student at Cambridge Rindge and Latin High School whose family fled the horrors of the Russian occupation in Chechnya.

Huh? What are you going on about Tom? There's no indication he was talking about Americans. I am unaware of any evidence significant numbers of, if any, American jihadis went to Chehnya can you point to any? Presumably the people he was referring to came from North Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia.

[John Dolva]

Is a 'lethal warrior' a terrorist?

[Paul Rigby]

Was the real purpose of the abortive CIA recruitment to rewrite the Boston patsies' histories through an FSB agent-in-place?

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/mysterious-ryan-fogle.html

[Paul Rigby]

Russia's CIA spy bust 'was linked to Boston Bombing': U.S diplomat was trying to recruit Dagestan expert who travelled to terrorist’s home town when he was arrested

U.S. diplomat named as Ryan Christopher Fogle was arrested on Monday

Russia claim he was attempting to recruit a Russian secret services official

Letter allegedly found on him offers agents $1million per year to defect

U.S. ambassador summoned to Russian foreign ministry to explain today

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

PUBLISHED: 12:44, 15 May 2013

The arrest of a US diplomat accused of being a CIA spy was linked to the Boston bombing, sources revealed today. Russian security officials reported on Tuesday that they had briefly detained Ryan Fogle in Moscow for allegedly trying to recruit a Russian intelligence officer. Today sources revealed the man Mr Fogle was trying to ‘recruit’ was an FSB agent who specialised in Islamic extremism in Russia and may even have travelled to the region where the bombing suspects came from.

Sources today said that Ryan Fogle was seeking to lure into treachery an FSB agent who had knowledge of Russian intelligence operations on suspected Boston terrorist Tamerlan Tsarnaev, left

It is thought that he was part of a team who went to Dagestan and provided intelligence to the United States about an extremist threat in 2011.

Fogle, a third secretary at the U.S. Embassy, who was carrying special technical equipment, disguises, written instructions and a large sum of money. Fogle was later handed over to U.S. Embassy officials. This morning the Russian foreign ministry today issued a formal protest to American ambassador Michael McFaul who was summoned to explain the alleged espionage mission of one of his diplomats. As he left after the brief session with Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, the envoy waved to reporters but refused to comment.

The Ministry hit out at 'provocative acts in the spirit of the Cold War' and has ordered the expulsion of Fogle, arrested wearing a blond wig under his baseball cap. 'This does not contribute to the further process of building mutual trust between Russia and the United States and bringing our relations to a qualitatively new level,' warned Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for Russian president Vladimir Putin.

But it was becoming clearer today that the US was seeking to lure into treachery an FSB agent who had knowledge of Russian intelligence operations on suspected Boston terrorist Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who lived in America but had travelled to Dagastan where he was believed to have met Islamic extremists.

The FSB had earlier warned the FBI about his potential extremist links. In material released by the FSB, it is clear the Americans had phone numbers for one or more Russian intelligence agents involved in anti-terrorism work in the Caucasus. They obtained these during trip involving FBI agents to Dagestan in search of intelligence on Tamerlan's trip. 'After the first call he refused to meet, but this man called again and insisted on a meeting,' said a recording of a FSB officer addressing three US diplomats who came to collect the alleged CIA agent from FSB headquarters. 'At first we did not believe it was happening, because recently the FSB has been actively helping to investigate the Boston blasts, and was also providing some other information about threats to US national security'.

Today Kommersant newspaper said: 'It is likely that during the trip in April the US side obtained the phone numbers of Federal Security Service (FSB) agents.' 'Clearly, they then decided to use it to have personal contacts with anti-terror agents, given that the exchange of information in the form of question and answers between special services is not always quick and smooth,' it said.

Russia has not named the target of the US co-operation, and it is not known whether the agent has faced any problems or even arrest over the US interest in him. Fogle apparently hinted at an initial payment of $100,000 followed up a salary of up to $1 million a year plus bonuses if the Russian intelligence official handed over secrets to the CIA. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said he had opted not to bring up the case at talks with US Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday in Sweden. 'I decided that talking about it would be superfluous, since it is already made public and everyone already understands everything,' he said.

Fogle was caught in Vorontsovski Park, an area in south-east Moscow, the FSB said. A letter in Russian which Fogle carried suggests – if genuine – that the CIA hoped to reel in a big fish. Addressed ‘Dear friend’, it states: ‘We are ready to offer you $100,000 [£65,000] and discuss your experience, expertise and co-operation, and the payment may go much higher if you are ready to answer certain questions. ‘For long-term co-operation we offer $1million [£650,000] per year.’ The recruit is instructed to use an internet cafe to ‘create a new Gmail mailbox which you will use only for staying in touch with us’.

The incident is the biggest spy scandal since the arrest of glamorous agent Anna Chapman and nine other Russians in the US in 2010. The FSB stated: ‘Recently, the US intelligence community has made repeated attempts to recruit employees of Russia’s law-enforcement bodies and special agencies.’

Many details remained shrouded in mystery last night. It is not known whether the target was part of the sting operation or if they have been arrested. Russia’s haste to make the news public could mean either that the attempt was so audacious that it shocked leaders, or that hardliners have seized on it to stop a move towards detente with the US. Yesterday Patty Fogle, the diplomat’s mother, refused to comment at her home in St Louis, Missouri.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324861/Russias-CIA-spy-bust-linked-Boston-Bombing-U-S-diplomat-trying-recruit-Dagestan-expert-travelled-terrorist-s-home-town-arrested.html#ixzz2TOqZMoTm

[Len Colby]

Russia's CIA spy bust 'was linked to Boston Bombing': U.S diplomat was trying to recruit Dagestan expert who travelled to terrorist’s home town when he was arrested

U.S. diplomat named as Ryan Christopher Fogle was arrested on Monday

Russia claim he was attempting to recruit a Russian secret services official

Letter allegedly found on him offers agents $1million per year to defect

U.S. ambassador summoned to Russian foreign ministry to explain today

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

PUBLISHED: 12:44, 15 May 2013

[...]

Many details remained shrouded in mystery last night. It is not known whether the target was part of the sting operation or if they have been arrested. Russia’s haste to make the news public could mean either that the attempt was so audacious that it shocked leaders, or that hardliners have seized on it to stop a move towards detente with the US. Yesterday Patty Fogle, the diplomat’s mother, refused to comment at her home in St Louis, Missouri.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324861/Russias-CIA-spy-bust-linked-Boston-Bombing-U-S-diplomat-trying-recruit-Dagestan-expert-travelled-terrorist-s-home-town-arrested.html#ixzz2TOqZMoTm

I still wonder about this it seems too odd to be true. It's a bit of a contradiction to believe the same CIA can carry out these elaborate plots would have fitted out Fogle with such a goofy wig, and why would he be carrying around a compass? And worst of all why a letter spelling out the offer? Can anyone following this thread point to confirmed cases of the CIA using such recruitment letters. But even IF true this doesn't really help your case. Also 'odd' that the Mail is the only source reporting a few stories relating to this incident, they either have the best or among the worst journalists covering it.

Edited May 18, 2013 by Len Colby

[Len Colby]

Was the real purpose of the abortive CIA recruitment to rewrite the Boston patsies' histories through an FSB agent-in-place?

http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/mysterious-ryan-fogle.html

Quite weak even by the low standard of your posts on this thread. The blogger who also has posts on “SOME TOP JEWS”, “JEW TAKES OVER NEWS PROGRAMME” , and “JEWISH GANGSTERS LOSING IN TURKEY AND SYRIA”claimed but failed to produce evidence that the extremists the elder Tsarnaev met in Dagestan were backed by the CIA.

[Len Colby]

I just came across this, it appeared in a Brazilian newspaper the day after the bombings

[Paul Rigby]

I still wonder about this it seems too odd to be true. It's a bit of a contradiction to believe the same CIA can carry out these elaborate plots would have fitted out Fogle with such a goofy wig, and why would he be carrying around a compass? And worst of all why a letter spelling out the offer? Can anyone following this thread point to confirmed cases of the CIA using such recruitment letters.

Ah, Mr Fogle, we've been expecting you: The case of the hapless wig-wearing American diplomat expelled from Moscow is not as simple as it first seemed

By David Randall, SUNDAY 19 MAY 2013

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ah-mr-fogle-weve-been-expecting-you-the-case-of-the-hapless-wigwearing-american-diplomat-expelled-from-moscow-is-not-as-simple-as-it-first-seemed-8622312.html

In the long and sinuous history of international espionage, the one thing you can absolutely rely on is that very little is as it first appears. And so it is with Ryan Christopher Fogle, third secretary in the political department of the US Embassy in Moscow, comedy wig owner, and, apparently, a man who thinks it wise to hang around near park entrances at midnight with €100,000 (£85,000) in cash about his person.

Caught in the act of trying to subvert a Russian intelligence agent, he is then marched off to the sort of bare office where once the KGB went about their business, and is filmed looking forlorn as a Russian official berates him for his stupidity. Beside him is laid out the almost childish equipment he took with him on his mission. Later, a letter from him offering his target $100,000 now and $1m a year thereafter is released to the Moscow media. The Russians have a field day, the US State Department stays resolutely shtum. Not a word of protest, denial or explanation. Fogle, it appears, is the world's dumbest spy and the Russians have got him bang to rights.

But kick the tyres, poke the evidence a bit, and not everything is quite as straightforward as that. This weekend, further reasons to count your change on this story were emerging. It now seems Fogle might not be quite as big a noodle as he first appeared, and the Russians not quite as smart. The following, as far as we can ascertain, is the most likely interpretation of what was going on.

Fogle came to work at the embassy in Moscow in April 2011. He was young, about 26, no doubt eager, and, from the Russian point of view, had a bit of form. Raised in Missouri, a graduate of Colgate University in New York State, and a member of the Phi Delta Theta fraternity, he was, according to its winter 2010 newsletter, then living in Virginia, which also accommodates the headquarters of the CIA, at Langley, Fairfax County. Now Virginia's a big place, and not every resident works for the CIA, but Fogle's late 2011 email address has been identified as that of a subscriber to briefings from the intelligence firm Stratfor. It's the kind of thing that gets you on the radar of a country's intelligence services when you're posted there.

And that, according to the Russians (and their claim fits the facts), is exactly what happened. The former frat boy from Colgate was clocked the moment he arrived in Moscow, and, the Russians confidently claim, was monitored as he went about his probably low-level extra-curricular duties. And so, his life of semi-subter- fuge went on until this year, when two things happened.

One was the Boston bombing by the Tsarnaev brothers, native Chechens, and one a recent long-term visitor to Dagestan, something of a haven for Islamist terrorists. Washington and Moscow made cooing noises about intelligence-sharing on the subject, but, in all likelihood, beneath the surface there was intense competition for any scrap of information about extremism in the Caucasus. And Russian sensitivities were made all the more tender by the unpublicised expulsion in January of a what the Russians described as a "CIA operative".

It was in this context that, last week, Fogle's career took a most public turn. The means to contact a Russian intelligence agent who specialises in the Caucasus had, says the FSB, Russia's domestic security agency, come his way (or been dangled before him), and he rose to the bait, like a not very bright trout gulping for flies on a balmy May evening.

The following is the Russian account of what happened next (the Americans have not challenged or commented on this version in any way): Fogle was driven by a colleague to a point where the pair were convinced any surveillance had been shaken off. As midnight approached, he made his way to what seems to have been a pre-arranged meet at Vorontsovsky Park, calling his target twice on the way. A convenient recording has him saying, in accented Russian: "Hello. I am a representative of a Western country …. e have been watching you for a long time and we think that your work is very impressive. I, today, have for you $100,000 …. Are you interested?" Then, as he walked on the nearby Ulitsa Akademika Pilyugina sporting his blond wig, he was nabbed, and taken into custody.

This all makes some sort of sense, or is at least plausible. Fogle seems almost certainly to be CIA (indeed, the US State Department referred some press inquiries to CIA HQ). And, unless he had been abducted, drugged, had a wig plopped on his head, and been taken to near the park for an arrest to be staged, it looks as if he might actually have been trying to recruit a Russian agent.

But it is hard to resist the idea that the Russians, keen to make mischief and play to the domestic television audience, then rather over-egged the evidential pudding. As the hapless Fogle sat in the FSB office waiting for three colleagues to come and collect him, the supposed contents of his kit bag were displayed. On a table were: a compass; a pepper gas canister; an extra wig (brunette); an ancient Nokia mobile phone; a city map book (for a man who'd lived in Moscow for two years and was going to a large and easy-to-find landmark); a torch; sunglasses; and other paraphernalia. All that was missing, from this Junior Amateur Spy Outfit, was a secret code-book and bottle of invisible ink.

And then there was the letter Fogle was allegedly carrying to give to his "recruit". It outlined terms, instructions on how to use Google Mail, and read like one of those emails from an overseas attorney telling you Hiram J Finkelstein has died leaving you sole beneficiary of his $4.4m estate, and all you have to do is send personal details and a $10,000 administration fee, and the loot's all yours.

The letter went: "Dear Friend, This is an advance from someone who is very impressed by your professionalism … We are prepared to offer you $100,000 … and your payment might be far greater if you are prepared to answer some specific questions. Additionally, for long-term co-operation we offer up to $1,000,000 a year with the promise of additional bonuses … Thank you for reading this … Your friends."

The letter referred to dollars, as did the supposed phone call, and yet there on the table were euros, apparently 100,000 of them, which, by our reckoning, comes to about $129,000. Generosity indeed – or, perhaps, a case of the FSB man writing the letter not liaising with the one supplying the props. Either way, that and the million per, are way above the going rate for a little modest traitoring.

All this was not done for the FSB's private amusement. The night's events and the table of evidence were captured on film, which was about to get its premiere. On Tuesday at 2.30pm local time, at the very moment that the US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, was starting a public Twitter Q&A, the state-financed TV channel, RT, broadcast the story and its accompanying footage. It then went global, with many news outlets taking the more rococo details at face value.

Since then, the US has declined to offer comment or enlightenment – a comment in itself, really. They have even refused to say if Fogle has returned home. We tried to put a series of questions to them, but answers came there none. There's no great diplomatic fall-out, no charges, no trial, no lasting effects. Just a little intelligence game that got all dressed up in a wig one night, and then got rather out of hand.

[Paul Rigby]

CIA Troublemaking in Caucasus

By Wayne Madsen, Monday, May 20, 2013

http://orientalreview.org/2013/05/20/cia-troublemaking-in-caucasus/

It is clear that Russia’s arrest and expulsion of two CIA agents who were trying to recruit members of the Russian intelligence service fighting against Salafist separatists in the Caucasus is part of a Russian mopping-up operation directed at the CIA’s decades-long covert support for terrorists operating in the Northern and Southern Caucasus. Russia’s Federal Security Bureau (FSB) recently arrested Ryan Christopher Fogle, a CIA «official cover» U.S. embassy Third Secretary, who was trying to recruit an FSB counter-terrorism officer for the CIA. A Russian phone intercept of Fogle’s conversation with the targeted counter-terrorism officer revealed the following offer by the CIA agent: “You can earn up to $1 million per year and I’ll give you $100,000 up front, but only if we meet right now. Yes or no?» Earlier this year, the FSB nabbed another CIA agent, yet unnamed, and quietly deported him.

The list of key U.S. Foreign Service officers, dated April 1, 2013, does not contain Fogle’s name on the list of key U.S. diplomats assigned to the Moscow embassy. Traditionally, the CIA prefers to operate under the official cover of “Political Officer” at large embassies like Moscow. In smaller embassies, the CIA presence can often be found in the deputy chief of mission. The Political Officer in Moscow is Michael Klecheski, formerly with the CIA-connected RAND Corporation and the National Security Council, who was assigned to the Moscow embassy during Soviet times. There is a good chance that Klecheski was Fogle’s local supervisor. The FSB revealed publicly that the CIA station chief for the embassy in Stephen Holmes. Another embassy Third Secretary, Benjamin Dillon, was expelled in January for activities similar to those of Fogle.

According to Turkish sources, the Jamestown Foundation’s operations in the Caucasus are tied in directly with those of the CIA. Accused Boston Marathion bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev, according to documents from the Georgian Interior Ministry, attended training sessions in Tbilisi, Georgia last eyar sponsored by Jamestown. The foundation was set up as an anti-Soviet organization by CIA director William Casey in the early 1980s. Its board of directors have included the author Tom Clancy who gained fame by penning thrillers that pitted the United States against the Soviet Union in Cold War skirmishes.

Jamestown president Glen E. Howard is fluent in Turkish and Azerbaijani. Tamerlan’s uncle, Ruslan Tsarni (aka Tsarnaev) had been a business associate of former CIA Turkish specialist Graham Fuller, who has participated in a number of Jamestown events.

Jamestown has two major missions on behalf of the CIA: 1) to ensure the flow of energy, including oil and natural gas, from the Caspian through pipelines in Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Turkey and 2) prop up or topple governments in the region to ensure U.S. predominance. The latter is accomplished through organizing the political opposition, setting up conferences, and gaining influence in universities through non-governmental organizations established to veil the CIA’s financing of the operations. The NGOs ensure the CIA has a cadre of academics, politicians, former bureaucrats and diplomats, and intelligence agents to support its efforts through participation in «joint studies,» many of which are conducted by Jamestown. In return, the CIA provides its interlocutors with secret cash payments through the electronic transfer of funds to their bank accounts.

Howard has publicly revealed the U.S. bases of operations are in West Azerbaijan and Georgia and the target is the South and North Caucasus. Turkish sources also report that the key Jamestown interlocutor between the organization and the Caucasus Emirate of Salafist guerrillas, among whom Tamerlan Tsarnaev made contact, is Fatima Tlisova, a former Russian national of Circassian ethnicity and a journalist. Granted political asylum by the United States, Tlisova reportedly met, shortly before his death, the head of the Salafist Caucasus Emirate branch in Kabardino-Balkaria, Anzor Astemirov, aka «Emir Sayfullah,» who was killed in a shootout with police on March 24, 2010 in Nalchik, the Kabardino-Balkaria capital. Tlisova now travels on a U.S. passport, according to Turkish sources. Astemirov was on record stating that he did not support a global jihad against countries such as the United States and had asked the United States for assistance in the Islamic Emirate’s war against Russia. The Caucasus Emirate is known to receive substantial financial support from Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

A Circassian Russian named Ali Berzeg also operates under Jamestown’s umbrella, according to Turkish sources and he is active in the «No Sochi» campaign to boycott the Sochi Winter Olympics next year. Berzeq participated in the November 19-21, 2010 Jamestown conference in Tbilisi on Circassian nationalism in the Adygea and Karachay-Cherkessia autonomous republics of Russia. He also spoke of support for Jamestown’s Circassian adventurism by the governments of Estonia and Lithuania, particularly that offered by Estonian Member of the European Parliament (MEP) Indrek Tarand. Berzeg also revealed in Tbilisi that the Circassians were supported by diaspora communities based in New York, Istanbul, Antalya, Munich, and Haifa.

Jamestown, through its links with Fuller, and through, him, with Tsarni, had two Chechen organizations circling its orbit: the Congress of Chechen International Organizations, located at Fuller’s home in Maryland, and the United States-Chechen Republic Alliance Inc., located at the home of Alavi Tsarnaev, Ruslan Tsarni’s brother. Jamestown is also linked, according to Turkish sources, with the Cerkes Society of New Jersey, the New Jersey Circassian Association, and the Circassian Cultural Institute (CCI), all, like their Chechen counterparts, taking full advantage of the Internal Revenue Service’s 501 © 3 tax-exempt provisions.

Jamestown was instrumental in founding the Circassian Cultural Center of the Republic of Georgia, authorized by a special decree of President Mikhail Saakashvili on October 12, 2011. Jamestown uses Ilia State University in Tbilisi to hold many of its Caucasus secessionist conferences. The group also supports the activities of Iyad Youghar, the head of the International Circassian Council. Youghar spoke at a Ilia-Jamestown seminar at the school’s campus on May 24, 2012, during the time Tamerlan Tsarnaev was said to be at Jamestown training in Tbilisi. One of the conference speakers was Walter Richmond, author of The Northwest Caucasus: Past, Present, Future a professor at Occidental College, a prime recruiting ground for the CIA and Barack Obama’s old alma mater.

Jamestown’s Howard was also in attendance., as was, more interestingly, Professor Brian Glyn Williams, professor of Islamic History at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth. Williams said he received an email from Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in May 2011, asking about Chechnya and that he helped him with a high school paper on his home country. Turkish sources reports that Williams has consulted for the CIA and Scotland Yard and is an expert on Turkish Volunteers in Chechnya and «Al-Qaeda Turka.» The Chechen-Ichkeria Republic separatist flag was on clear display at the Ilia-Jamestown seminar in Tbilisi on May 24, 2012.

Jamestown has rightly been referred to by the Russian Foreign Ministry as “singing the services of supporters of terrorists and pseudo-experts.” The ministry charged that Jamestown seminar speakers were “given carte blanche to spread extremist propaganda, incite ethnic and inter-religious discord.” Based on the circumstantial but important links between the organization and Fuller, Uncle Ruslan Tsarni and Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Jamestown has always skirted the edges of aiding and abetting terrorists, from its “Chechen Project” and its liaison with Chechen guerrillas from the Pankisi Gorge who would later turn up fighting American and NATO troops in Afghanistan and Iraq to Caucasus Emirate terrorists who constantly commit attacks on Russian military, police, and civilian personnel.

It is clear that the CIA requires reforming if not outright abolishment. It was the sincere wish of the late New York Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan to see the CIA abolished with its analysis division rolled into the U.S. State Department. Since that will not happen anytime soon, reforming the CIA could start with cutting out its fringes, such as the Jamestown Foundation and similar tax-exempt groups that carry out covert operations while fleecing the American taxpayers.

[Len Colby]

This does really help you much does it Paul? The author whose expertise regarding intel. matters is unclear seems unconvinced of the charges and his evidence the Fogle was indeed CIA is risible:

1) he supposedly was one of about 8 million people who lived in Virginia (not to mention the couple of million who lived in DC and MD suburbs.

2) he supposedly was one of many thousands of people who received the Stratfor mailing list, supposedly this can lead to recruitment by the agency

3) supposedly " the US State Department referred some press inquiries to CIA HQ"

But even if what the FSB alleges is true it doesn't lend credence to your fantasies.

[Paul Rigby]

Official Story Has Odd Wrinkles: A Pack Of Questions About The Boston Bombing Backpacks

by Dave Lindorff, May 20, 2013

http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/05/20/official-story-has-odd-wrinkles-a-pack-of-questions-about-the-boston-bombing-backpacks/

What could have been in them for them to be hanging so lightly on the two suspects’ backs? And if it wasn’t two explosive-laden pressure cookers—if—then who put those bombs at the finish line?

[Len Colby]

LOL LIndorff the "photo analysist" fails to explain why the brothers were throwing similar bombs at the cops in Watertown.

[Guest Tom Scully]

Looking good!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/22/man-fbi-shot-dead-tamerlan-tsarnaev

• Richard Luscombe in Miami
• guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 22 May 2013 09.46 EDT

A man shot dead by an FBI agent in Florida late on Tuesday was an acquaintance of the Boston marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, a friend has said.

Ibragim Todashev, 27, had been questioned during the day by federal agents about his connection to Tsarnaev and was initially cooperative, according to sources in Orlando. He was killed when he "flipped out" and allegedly attacked an officer inside his apartment.....

Man Linked to Boston Suspect Is Shot Dead - NYTimes.com

www.nytimes.com/.../officer-involved-in-shooting-of-man-tied-to-tsarnaev....

May 22, 2013 – The official said Mr. Todashev had something in his hand, “a knife or a pipe or something.” It was not certain who, or how many officers, had

Suspect tells FBI and State of Massachusetts detectives he murdered three people by slashing their throats. The response reported was that one of the detectives then "left the room." I cannot find fault, I probably would not have handcuffed an admitted multiple murderer. I would have ducked out of the room he was in to get

a cup of coffee or to relieve myself, it was late.

Some of the other interrogators must have ducked out, as well. Multiple murderer confesses, nobody thinks to handcuff him, most of his interrogators leave the room.

FBI special agent interrogating high profile suspect without a partner, but FBI policy is never to record interviews, yeah, SOP, nothing to see here....

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-05-22/news/os-orlando-fbi-boston-bombing-20130522_1_fbi-agent-boston-bombing-suspects-tamerlan-tsarnaev

Feds: Man shot after attacking agent was being questioned about Boston bombing suspects and 2011 triple murder

• 

Ibragim Todashev (Orange County Jail, Orange…)

May 22, 2013|By Richard A. Serrano, Henry Pierson Curtis and Amy Pavuk, Staff Writers

While all eyes were focused on Boston in the aftermath of the deadly marathon attack, federal agents in Orlando had quietly turned their attention to a Chechen-born mixed martial arts fighter with ties to the suspected bombers.

It wasn't until 27-year-old Ibragim Todashev was shot to death while being questioned — after lunging at an FBI agent with a knife in an Orlando condo early Wednesday — that it became clear the federal government's probe had extended to Central Florida.

Federal law enforcement sources said the FBI agent, two Massachusetts State Police troopers and other law enforcement officials were "primarily" questioning Todashev about a Sept. 11, 2011, triple slaying in Waltham, Mass. Officials believe he and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the suspected Boston bombers, may have had a role in cutting the throats of the three men and sprinkling marijuana over their bodies.

They also had questions about Todashev's relationship with Tsarnaev — whom he knew through the mixed martial arts community.

The FBI has been questioning and following Todashev relentlessly ever since the April 15 attack, his longtime friend Saeed Dunkaev told the Orlando Sentinel Wednesday.

Dunkaev, 25, said he and other Chechens who live in the gated Kissimmee community Orlando Sun Village were taken to the Kissimmee Police Department on Monday and interviewed by the FBI for three hours.

Several of Todashev's friends told the Sentinel that the FBI told him Tuesday would be his last interview and that he was going to be cleared.

The officials were questioning Todashev at a condo off Peregrine Avenue late Tuesday when he initiated a "violent confrontation," an FBI spokesman said. Todashev reportedly lunged at the agent with a knife, and the agent fired.

An FBI post-shooting incident review team was dispatched from Washington, D.C.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibragim_Todashev

Ibragim Todashev was a friend of the alleged Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

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Interviews and death

On May 22, 2013, law enforcement officers, including an FBI special agent from the Boston field office, and two Massachusetts State Police troopers, interviewed Ibragim Todashev for approximately eight hours at his apartment in Orlando, Florida, regarding the 2011 Waltham triple homicide and his connections to Tamerlan Tsarnaev and other extremists.^[2][1] The investigators later said that Todashev implicated both himself and Tamerlan Tsarnaev in the murders during the questioning and that Todashev was beginning to write a formal statement when he asked to take a break and then suddenly attacked the FBI agent.^[2][1] Todashev was shot multiple times and killed by the officers.^[1][3][4]

Officials initially said that Todashev was attacking the officers with a knife, but then later said that it was unclear whether this was true; the Times's source said it was "a knife or a pipe or something". Later reports have indicated that he was unarmed.^[3][4][5][6] The agent sustained minor injuries requiring stitches. The FBI established a post-shooting incident-review team to investigate the shooting of Todashev.^[2] A later account of what transpired (from an unnamed source identified as a senior law enforcement official briefed on the matter) is that Todashev knocked the interrogating agent to the ground with a table and then lunged at him with a metal pole, or possibly a broomstick.^[7] According to this account, there was one detective in the room—who did not fire—besides the FBI agent.^[7] Some earlier accounts had implied that the FBI agent was alone with Todashev at the time of the shooting.^[4]

Allegations of civil rights violations and excessive use of force

On May 29, CAIR, an American Islamic civil liberties group, held a news conference in Orlando at which it presented photographs of Todashev's body which it said showed that he was shot seven times, once in the head.^[8] CAIR has asked the Department of Justice for an investigation separate from the FBI investigation into the shooting to determine whether the FBI violated Todashev's civil rights.^[9]

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.....On the same day that Todashev's father held his press conference, the Washington Post published an editorial arguing that "answers are needed" about Todashev's death: "With the eyes of the world once again on the United States’ response to an act of terrorism and its treatment of foreign nationals, the last thing the U.S. government needs to do is fuel wild conspiracy theories by releasing too little information or investigating too slowly."^[12]

http://www.fbi.gov/boston/press-releases/2013/fbi-boston-divisions-response-to-shooting-incident-in-orlando-florida

May 22, 2013

The FBI is currently reviewing a shooting incident involving an FBI special agent. Based on preliminary information, the incident occurred in Orlando, Florida during the early morning hours of May 22, 2013. The agent, two Massachusetts State Police troopers, and other law enforcement personnel were interviewing an individual in connection with the Boston Marathon bombing investigation when a violent confrontation was initiated by the individual......

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/30/us/florida-fbi-shooting-boston/index.html

By Phil Black and Carol Cratty, CNN

updated 6:39 AM EDT, Fri May 31, 2013

Moscow (CNN) -- The father of a 27-year-old man shot dead by an FBI agent said Thursday that accounts he has heard about the killing make no sense.

Ibragim Todashev was fatally shot early May 22 during questioning about a 2011 triple homicide in Waltham, Massachusetts, as well as his relationship with deceased Boston Marathon bombings suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev.

Todashev admitted to his direct role in slashing three people's throats in Waltham and said Tsarnaev was involved as well, a federal law enforcement official told CNN.

It was during that interview -- which took place in the kitchen of his Orlando, Florida, home -- that Todashev was shot dead.....

.....A U.S. government official briefed on the investigation said Thursday that Todashev had agreed to talk to authorities,and noted that he was never arrested or handcuffed.

A samurai sword was in the room when Todashev sat down with two Massachusetts State Police detectives and a Boston-based FBI agent, but it was moved out of his reach.

After one of the detectives left the room, the other noticed Todashev was acting odd and he texted that sense to the FBI agent with him -- the U.S. official told CNN. Those two law enforcement officials were the only ones with Todashev, according to this account.

Suddenly, Todashev knocked over a table -- knocking the FBI agent back into a wall -- and came at him with some sort of "long-handled object" that he'd grabbed from behind him, according to the official.

The agent fired a few rounds, but Todashev kept on coming, the official said. He finally stopped after yet more gunshots.

"It all happened in less than a minute," said the U.S. official.

This detailed account -- as well as the comments from the elder Todashev -- come a day after CNN affiliate WESH and the Washington Post, citing unidentified sources, reported Todashev was unarmed when he was shot.

That led the Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations to call Wednesday for an investigation into the death of the Muslim man.

"Our call for an independent investigation of this disturbing incident is not just about the victim and his family, but is also about constitutional rights and the rule of law," said CAIR-Tampa Executive Director Hassan Shibly.

But the U.S. government official briefed on the investigation rebuffed the idea that Todashev wasn't a threat -- noting, for instance, that he could have taken the agent's gun.

"He was armed. Maybe it wasn't a weapon, but he had a long object," the official said. And because of Todashev's martial arts expertise, "he was a weapon himself."

Where was the FBI agent's partner?

http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/national/group-wants-civil-rights-probe-into-ibragim-todashev-death

Posted: 05/30/2013

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The FBI says Todashev was killed during a violent confrontation while he was being questioned by an FBI agent and two Massachusetts state troopers about his ties to slain Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, as well as about a 2011 triple slaying in Massachusetts.

The medical examiner has ruled the death a homicide.

In a non-related, current news report:

http://www.rgj.com/article/20130528/NEWS/130528001/Lawyer-argues-Whittemore-did-nothing-wrong-blasts-FBI

Update: No verdict today in Whittemore trial, jury will continue deliberations Wednesday at 8:30 a.m.

May 28, 2013 (Page 4 of 6) ......Gentile blasted the FBI for failing to record their 2012 interview with Whittemore. FBI Special Agent Glen Lovedahl testified that it was FBI policy to not record interviews. Gentile said the lack of a recording forces the jury to speculate about what was said.

There was this, last October:

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2012/10/trenton_mayor_tony_mack_will_g.html

October 12, 2012 - Trenton Mayor Tony Mack will get to see the FBI's secret recordings during 'pre-indictment exchange'

....Giorgianni’s attorney Jerome Ballarotto, could not be reached for comment yesterday, but Davis said Ballarotto will be offered the same opportunity he and Hartmann are receiving.

Though the recordings the government will show in the information exchanges may include video surveillance from the steak shop bugs and a pole camera, recordings from cell phone wiretaps, or recordings made consensually by cooperating witnesses, they are highly unlikely to include the FBI agents’ interviews of Mack or anyone else.

“Ever since (J. Edgar) Hoover, it has been the policy of the FBI — the policy of the FBI — not to record interviews,” Ballarotto said in a 2009 video prepared as continuing education for New Jersey attorneys.

“No matter how important they are, the FBI does not record interviews. And Hoover’s reason was that the FBI doesn’t need to record statements. We are the FBI. And if an FBI agent takes the witness stand and takes the oath, that’s good enough.”

A spokeswoman for the FBI could not be reached for comment......

Nearly 50 years since the Warren Commission "investigation" not much has changed. Are there any other examples of an FBI special agent working a high profile interrogation without an FBI partner?

[Len Colby]

Uh Tom you should learn to read with care according to your cited snippets the agent and cops “interviewed Ibragim Todashev for approximately eight hour s at his apartment” when the incident happened “during the early morning hours” though he “implicated both himself and Tamerlan Tsarnaev in the murders during the questioning” he had not yet confessed “Todashev was beginning to write a formal statement when he asked to take a break and then suddenly attacked the FBI agent” kinda hard to “write a formal statement” while handcuffed and according to one source he “was initially cooperative, according to sources in Orlando. He was killed when he "flipped out" and allegedly attacked an officer inside his apartment”.

Just curious what is your expertise regarding LEO interrogation procedures? Watching TV shows? Ditto the absence of the FBI agent's partner, should the bureau have popped for two agents to got to Orlando when it wasn't a federal crime?

Edited June 2, 2013 by Len Colby