Vince Palamara Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Reasonable-Doubt-Warren-Oswalds/dp/1939521238/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1398234734&sr=1-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Your link says it's by Mel Ayton with a foreword by DVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Speer Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Sounds pretty bad. Ayton was a former member and Von Pein is a current member of this forum. They both are capable of making articulate arguments. But any book that focuses on how conspiracy theorists have misled the public into believing there was a conspiracy without acknowledging the failures and deceptions of the Warren Commission and Johnson Administration is destined for the dustbin, IMO. It's like "Oh, my God, there's a mouse in the room! (Never mind the elephant)". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Unlike Bugliosi's tome I hope this book will at least refrain from calling us wackos and idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) I never have understood the whole Oswald did it "movement". In a country where the most common comparison of America idealistically, anyway, is usually the "city shining on a hill," the passage of 50 years has proven, at least in the real world that Oswald was a dupe, other than Jack Ruby being put in a vise to shoot Oswald, there are an enormous amount of details still being sifted through. The reason I allude to a movement in regards to Oswald as the killer, is that some people view his guilt, more out of a inability to see things as they are, than solid facts, the "movement" I consider to include Bugliosi, Posner, Schiller, Fuhrman, O'Reilly et cetera. I recognize some people really do think that Oswald did it, but they also usually never studied the documents and the documents say a lot, sometimes by what they don't say, or questions that aren't asked. Ask Richard Belzer,* for one. To be blunt, the latter are nothing more than hacks who make money out of presenting a sanitized version of America, where everyone either wears a white or black hat. Not to digress re DVP, but knowing that I wouldn't pay money to see Parkland [ie Tom Hanks] I watched it a couple of days ago. What a contrivance... It sickens me to think some people will watch that movie thinking it has some degree of truth in it, the conversation between Lee and Robert Oswald was practically pure fiction. The most memorable quote in the real conversation between Lee and Robert, in my estimation, was when Robert stared into Oswald's eyes, ostensibly trying to get a gauge regarding his brother's innocence or guilt, and Lee said "Brother, you aren't going to find anything there." Or that Robert had serious qualms about the indomitable Ruth and Michael Paine. But, as it has been said, "why let the truth get in the way of a good story." * for more on Belzer see http://books.google.com/books?id=yDrJa9-7irUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=inauthor:%22Richard+Belzer%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=fetXU4r5OKXF2wX8x4CwCA&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q&f=false Edited April 23, 2014 by Robert Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Healy Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Reasonable-Doubt-Warren-Oswalds/dp/1939521238/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1398234734&sr=1-5 another one destined for the $1.00 book bin at K-Mart... after it's worldwide sales hit the 17 copies sold bracket, of course ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Let me guess. They solved the murder mystery - Lee Harvey Oswald did it all by himself - case closed. We can all go home now and dwell on more important matters. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Davies Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Just Lee and his mail order marvel that fired magical bullets. Nothing to look at here folks, move along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Also magical rifles that changed from Mausers into a Mannlicher Carcanos, magic wallets which appeared and disappeared at will at the Tippit scene, rifle shells that magically changed positions in the snipers nest and a paper bag that moved before it could be photographed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Davies Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 In lone nutterville that is not magical at all. Kentucky fried fallacies explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 In lone nutterville that is not magical at all. Kentucky fried fallacies explain it. Finger lickin' crud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I think I finally figured DVP out---I think he THINKS he is "bumming us out" with his lone nut pronouncements when, in actual fact, only John McAdams would care LOL. I really think that is the modus operandi of LNers: to "bum us out" LOL; honest Now, if he was talking baseball, that is something else- I do care! And he DOES have an excellent blog of photos and videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Hi Vince P., Please elaborate on what you mean by "bumming us out". I'm not quite sure I fully understand what you're driving at there. ========================= Book Info: JFK-Archives.blogspot.com / "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" Book Page ========================= Edited September 11, 2014 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 I noticed that, whenever someone is excited about a specific bit of pro-conspiracy evidence via a posting or whatnot, inevitably there is an attempt to "rain on the parade" via the old "Oswald shot at Walker, Tippit, and JFK" routine LOL...sort of a general "sweep of the hand" dismissal of any notion of wrongdoing via the official story "bullet points" (pardon the pun) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) UPDATE ON THE BOOK (12/10/2014): After a lengthy series of delays, problems, and glitches, it appears that the book "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" is now ready to be released. I received my early copies of the book on December 9th, and everything looks good now.* The final page count is 471. The publisher is Strategic Media Books. The retail price is $18.95, and it should be available to order from online stores like Amazon in the next few days. * There is only one factual error that I noticed still being in the final version of the book--and it's a very minor error that appears in a caption attached to one of the pictures in the photo section of the book. (And, wouldn't you know it, that is the one and only section of the book that I was unable to proofread before it went to press.) The incorrect caption concerns the photograph taken by Jack Beers in the basement of the Dallas police station as Jack Ruby was shooting Lee Harvey Oswald. The inaccurate caption says that the photo is the prize-winning picture taken by Robert Jackson. But it's really the Beers image. (Hopefully, there won't be too many conspiracy theorists who want to crucify Mel Ayton or myself for this captioning mistake.) :-) David Von Pein December 9, 2014 ----------------------------- "Beyond Reasonable Doubt" Chapter List: PREFACE CHAPTER 1 -- A NATIONAL OBSESSION CHAPTER 2 -- GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATIONS: THE WARREN COMMISSION AND THE HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSASSINATIONS CHAPTER 3 -- DAMNING EVIDENCE CHAPTER 4 -- THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY, THE HEAD SHOT, AND THE GRASSY KNOLL CHAPTER 5 -- CONSCIOUSNESS OF GUILT CHAPTER 6 -- AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH PHOTO SECTION CHAPTER 7 -- THE USUAL SUSPECTS CHAPTER 8 -- THE CIA-DID-IT THEORY CHAPTER 9 -- THE NEW ORLEANS DEBACLE CHAPTER 10 -- OSWALD’S DEFENDERS CHAPTER 11 -- THE CASTRO CONNECTION CHAPTER 12 -- THE JFK ASSASSINATION LEGACY NOTES & SOURCES APPENDIX 1 -- Additional Controversial Issues Surrounding The JFK Assassination by David Von Pein APPENDIX 2 -- Replication Of The HSCA Weiss & Aschkenasy Acoustic Analysis by Michael O'Dell BIBLIOGRAPHY Edited December 10, 2014 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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