Secret Service Agents Response

[Thomas Graves]

A problem with "researchers' is the failure to comprehend significant evidence that conflicts with the story that builds their personal assassination scenario.

This animated gif should be an ah-ha moment.

The VP vehicle is following behind the queen mary, it should be apparent that the VP vehicle has not slowed or stopped after the sound of supposedly two shots from a high powered rifle. Something is wrong with awareness that does not comprehend there is no evidence that witnesses or agents reacted to gunfire until after Z-313.

[emphasis added by T. Graves]

Other evidence of this is every witness seen in this gif, IS unaware an assassination is underway or that any shots have been fired.

A question for Robert Mady:

At which Z-frame did Secret Service agent Hill start leaving the Queen Mary? Not until after Z-313?

Not trying to be a smart xxx, just asking an honest question.

--Tommy

PS By the way, I think the guy walking across the street from the direction of the Terminal Annex Building wearing the dark sport coat and white pants could very well be __________ . (I'll think of his name in a minute...)

Edit: Diaz Lanz! The same guy is shown standing at the Elm street curb on the "infield grass" right after the assassination, and may be the same guy that Tan Jacket Man possibly hands something to in a secretive manner in the Hughes film.

Edited October 6, 2014 by Thomas Graves

[Chris Davidson]

That was the point of my Lem Johns topic.

He can't be found in any films or photographs on/near the knoll, which leads me to believe a lot of his recollection is BS.

The only footage I found was in the Weigman pickup car.

He possibly is #3 in the main photo, not the inset.

http://s140.photobucket.com/user/123steamn/media/K.jpg.html

chris

[Chris Davidson]

David, Why don't you just post where SSA JOHNS can be found in a film or photograph.

I am not interested in speculation.

Yes, I know you produced this gif, I previously stated it was not mine and thanked you for it if you remember.

Do you have a version of this gif without the red box you can post?

Robert,

Do you see what is in the red box?

chris

[Robert Mady]

Thomas, that is a good question, the answer is after CONNALLY lays back on top of NELLIE, following frame z-290.

You can see HILL running to the limo in NIX Film near the front of the follow up car before the fatal head shot occurs.

[Robert Mady]

David, what is significant about what can be observed within the red box?

[Robert Mady]

Why would a SSA out right lie about an insignificant event that could easily been vetted for truth?

Who is man number one, with the military cut?

[Thomas Graves]

Thomas, that is a good question, the answer is after CONNALLY lays back on top of NELLIE, following frame z-290.

You can see HILL running to the limo in NIX Film near the front of the follow up car before the fatal head shot occurs.

Thanks Robert,

Then I gotta ask if that doesn't constitute evidence that at least one Secret Service agent reacted to gunfire before Z-313, which evidence you stated didn't exist in your post #163, above.

Assuming, of course, that the fatal head shot occurred at Z-313...

--Tommy

Edited October 6, 2014 by Thomas Graves

[Robert Mady]

I love this BRONSON gif.

"researchers' look at BREHM and his son.

BREHM claimed to have heard three shots from a high powered rifle, which he recognized immediately.

BREHM was an Army Ranger and took part in the invasion of France.

BREHM turns away from his son to continue to applaud the President.

BREHM apparently applauds until he hears the first shot from a high powered rifle.

Edited October 6, 2014 by Robert Mady

[Thomas Graves]

I love this BRONSON gif.

"researchers' look at BREHM and his son.

BREHM claimed to have heard three shots from a high powered rifle, which he recognized immediately.

BREHM was an Army Ranger and took part in the invasion of France.

BREHM turns away from his son to continue to applaud the President.

BREHM apparently applauds until he hears the first shot from a high powered rifle.

Or maybe looked to see if his son was okay after hearing the first gunshot?

--Tommy

[Robert Mady]

Thomas, good question

HILL takes action after z-290. How does a reaction following Z-290 relate to having reacted to a gunshot?

HILL is seen conferring with someone in the FU vehicle until z-249 and can be seen in ALTGENS 6 at z-255 HILL does not react to a gunshot, he reacts to CONNALLY.

Edited October 6, 2014 by Robert Mady

[Thomas Graves]

Thomas, good question

HILLs reaction after z-290.

HILL is seen conferring with someone in the FU vehicle until z-249 and can be seen in ALTGENS 6 at z-255 HILL does not react to a gunshot, he reacts to CONNALLY.

Robert,

Sorry, but I don't think Hill starts looking to his right quite as early as you do. I think he's still looking at the limo.

--Tommy

[Robert Mady]

Thomas, I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Please look at animated gif.

HILL looks toward the gk or the limo after Z-190, LANDIS, READY and HICKEY simultaneously look toward the gk at the same moment, HILL continues to look at the limo or into the FU car until at least Z-255 as recorded in ALTGENS #6

That is fact.

Also a fact that HILL can be seen in NIX Film running toward limo prior to Z-313, so HILL started to move to limo prior to hearing the first shot from a high powered rifle and seconds after hearing a popping sound that apparently came from the direction of the gk.

The only thing that changed in the limo from Z-255 to Z-313 was CONNALLY laying back on top of NELLIE at Z-290, I am saying CONNALLYS action is the most likely cause for HILL to react and move to the limo.

[John Dolva]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c168/yanndee/moore_muchmore_johndolva.gif

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Edited October 10, 2014 by John Dolva

[Thomas Graves]

Thomas, I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Please look at animated gif.

HILL looks toward the gk or the limo after Z-190, LANDIS, READY and HICKEY simultaneously look toward the gk at the same moment, HILL continues to look at the limo or into the FU car until at least Z-255 as recorded in ALTGENS #6

That is fact.

Also a fact that HILL can be seen in NIX Film running toward limo prior to Z-313, so HILL started to move to limo prior to hearing the first shot from a high powered rifle and seconds after hearing a popping sound that apparently came from the direction of the gk.

The only thing that changed in the limo from Z-255 to Z-313 was CONNALLY laying back on top of NELLIE at Z-290, I am saying CONNALLYS action is the most likely cause for HILL to react and move to the limo.

[emphasis added by T. Graves]

Robert,

I already looked at the GD animated gif in post #175.

A couple of times.

Let me rephrase it for you.

I don't think Hill started looking to HIS right as early as you think he did.

What's so hard to understand about that?

At the point where you think he starts looking to HIS right in post #175, I think he's still looking almost straight ahead at JFK or Jackie in the limo.

Jeez...

--Tommy

Edited October 6, 2014 by Thomas Graves

[Robert Mady]

Thomas, lets end the conversation here.

Thanks for reading the thread.

Bob Mady