Deconstructing The Lies

[Robert Mady]

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Edited March 21, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Robert Mady]

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Edited March 21, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Robert Mady]

Time to suspend the beliefs for analysis of evidence.

Mr. BARNETT - Yes; but there was no sign they were going into the building or watching the building, so I decided I was the only one watching the building. So since this was the only fire escape and there were officers down here watching the this back door, I returned back around to the front to watch the front of the building and the fire escape. Then I decided maybe I had been wrong, so I saw the officers down here searching.
Mr. LIEBELER - You mean the officers went on down toward No. 5 on your Exhibit No. 354?
Mr. BARNETT - When I got to the front, some of the officers were coming back toward me, started back toward me.
Mr. LIEBELER - You were still back near the intersection of Elm and Houston?
Mr. BARNETT - Yes, sir; I was back where No. 8 is then. That was probably 2 1/2 minutes after the last shot was fired. About that time, my sergeant came up from this way, from the north of Houston Street and asked me to get the name of that building. I broke and ran to the front and got the name of it. There were people going in and out at that time. I ran back and told him the name of it, and about that time a construction worker ran from this southwest corner of the intersection up to me and said, "I was standing over there and saw the man in the window with the rifle." He and I and the sergeant all three broke and ran for the door. I kept the man there with me. The sergeant ran to the back to make sure it was covered. I kept the man there until they took him across the street to the courthouse. I was there until 3 o'clock, at the door there with one of the other officers, J.D. Smith.
Mr. LIEBELER - You didn't actually go into the building at the time?
Mr. BARNETT - No.
Mr. LIEBELER - How long do you think it was from the time the last shot was fired until the time you were at the front door keeping people from going in and out?
Mr. BARNETT - It was around 2 1/2 minutes. Maybe between 2 1/2 or 3 minutes.
Mr. LIEBELER - From the time the last shot was fired until the time you were standing at that front door?
Mr. BARNETT - Yes.
Mr. LIEBELER - Did you let anybody out of the building after you got there?
Mr. BARNETT - No, sir; until they were authorized.
Mr. LIEBELER - Who was in a position to authorize people to come in and out?
Mr. BARNETT - Well, of course, for sometime no one left except city, county, and Federal officers, and then after the people in the building were took into the small room there and questioned, they were brought to the door by a lieutenant, which I don't remember his name, but that was sometime after, and he brought them to the door and told us to let them out.
Mr. LIEBELER - Now, it was possible that people could have left the building between the time the last shot was fired and the time you and officer Smith stationed yourself there?
Mr. BARNETT - When I went to the door to get the name of the building, there were people going in and out then.
Mr. LIEBELER - There were?
Mr. BARNETT - Yes, sir.
Mr. LIEBELER - Do you think it was as quickly as 2 1/2 minutes from the time the last shot was fired until the time you got to the front door? Do you think it was that quick?
Mr. BARNETT - I believe it was 2 1/2 minute probably from the time I ran from the back to the front. That was probably 2 1/2 minutes. Then it took me 20 or 30 seconds more before I got to the front there.
Mr. LIEBELER - So you recollection is that it was fairly short order that you got to the front door?
Mr. BARNETT - Three minutes at the most.
Mr. LIEBELER - Now who was the one sergeant who instructed you to post yourself there at the door, or was it somebody else?
Mr. BARNETT - Sergeant Howard.
Mr. LIEBELER - You remained there at the door for how long?
Mr. BARNETT - Until 3 o'clock. Close to 11:30 to 3 - close to 12:30 to 3.

Edited March 23, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Robert Mady]

V.R. BAKER FBI Report

"After the shots she and others in the crowed moved on down toward the Triple Underpass and on returning to the building were told they could not go inside. She did not go inside until about 3:00 p.m."

BETTY JEAN DRAGOO FBI Report

"After President KENNEDY had been shot, I stayed outside the building, and when I tried to get back inside the door was locked."

CHARLES GIVENS FBI Report

"After President KENNEDY was shot I returned to the TSBD Building and was told by a Dallas policemen that I could not enter the building."

GLORIA HOLT FBI Report

"Following the assassinaiton of the President JFK I tried to return to work in the TSBD but was told by other employees that no one would be allowed in the building so I did not return to work that day"

STELLA JACOBS FBI Report

"Following the assassinaiton of the President. I tried to return to work in the TSBD but was told by other employees that no one would be allowed in the building so I did not return to work that day"

JUDY JOHNSON FBI Report

"After the President was shot I returned to the building but was unable to get inside as the front door of the building was locked"

DELORES KOUNAS FBI Report

"She stated that after standing there a few minutes she walked across the street toward the Texas School Book Depository Building but was not allowed to go in the building until about 3:00 p.m."

ROBERTA PARKER FBI Report

"I was not allowed back in the building until about 3:00"

[Robert Mady]

Mr. LOVELADY - Toward that way; everybody thought it was coming from that direction.
Mr. BALL - By the time you left the steps had Mr. Truly entered the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - As we left the steps I would say we were at least 15. maybe 25. steps away from the building. I looked back and I saw him and the policeman running into the building.
Mr. BALL - How many steps?
Mr. LOVELADY - Twenty, 25.
Mr. BALL - Steps away and you looked back and saw him enter the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Then you came back. How long did you stay around the railroad tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, just a minute, maybe minute and a half.
Mr. BALL - Then what did you do?
Mr. LOVELADY - Came back right through that part where Mr. Campbell, Mr. Truly, and Mr. Shelley park their cars and I came back inside the building.
Mr. BALL - And enter from the rear?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, sir; sure did.
Mr. BALL - You heard the shots. And how long after that was it before Gloria Calvary came up?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, approximately 3 minutes, I would say.
Mr. BALL - Three minutes is a long time.
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, it's---I say approximately; I can't say because I don't have a watch; it could.
Mr. BALL - Had people started to run?
Mr. LOVELADY - Well, I couldn't say because she came up to us and we was talking to her, wasn't looking that direction at that time, but when we came off the steps--see, that entrance, you have a blind side when you go down the steps.
Mr. BALL - Right after you talked to Gloria, did you leave the steps and go toward the tracks?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Did you run or walk?
Mr. LOVELADY - Medium trotting or fast walk.
Mr. BALL - A fast walk?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - How did you happen to turn around and see Truly and the policeman go into the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Somebody hollered and I looked.
Mr. BALL - You turned around and looked?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.
Mr. BALL - After you ran to the railroad tracks you came back and went in the back door of the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right.
Mr. BALL - Did you go in through the docks, the wide open door or did you go in the ordinary Small door?
Mr. LOVELADY - You know where we park our trucks--that door; we have a little door.
Mr. BALL - That is where you went in, that little door?
Mr. LOVELADY - That's right.
Mr. BALL - That would be the north end of the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - That would be the west end, wouldn't it?
Mr. BALL - Is it the one right off Houston Street?
Mr. LOVELADY - No; you are thinking about another dock.
Mr. BALL - I am?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes; we have two.
Mr. BALL - Do you have a dock on the west side and one on the north side of the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - East, and well, it would be east and west but you enter it from the south side.
Mr. BALL - Now, the south side---
Mr. LOVELADY - Elm Street is that little dead-end street.
Mr. BALL - That's south.
Mr. LOVELADY - I drive my truck here (indicating) but we came in from this direction; that would have to be west.
Mr. BALL - You came into the building from the west side?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right.
Mr. BALL - Where did you go into the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Through that, those raised-up doors.
Mr. BALL - Through the raised-up doors?
Mr. LOVELADY - Through that double door that we in the morning when we get there we raised. There's a fire door and they have two wooden doors between it.
Mr. BALL - You came in through the first floor?
Mr. LOVELADY - Right.
Mr. BALL - Who did you see in the first floor?
Mr. LOVELADY - I saw a girl but I wouldn't swear to it it's Vickie.
Mr. BALL - Who is Vickie?
Mr. LOVELADY - The girl that works for Scott, Foresman.
Mr. BALL - What is her full name?
Mr. LOVELADY - I wouldn't know.
Mr. BALL - Vickie Adams?
Mr. LOVELADY - I believe so.
Mr. BALL - Would you say it was Vickie you saw?
Mr. LOVELADY - I couldn't swear.
Mr. BALL - Where was the girl?
Mr. LOVELADY - I don't remember what place she was but I remember seeing a girl as she was talking to Bill or saw Bill or something, then I went over and asked one of the guys what time it was and to see if we should continue working or what.
Mr. BALL - Did you see any other people on the first floor?
Mr. LOVELADY - Oh, yes; by that time there were more; a few of the guys had come in.
Mr. BALL - And you stayed on the first floor then?
Mr. LOVELADY - I would say 30 minutes. And one of the policemen asked me would I take them up on the sixth floor.
Mr. BALL - Did you take them up there?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes, sir; I sure did.

Edited March 23, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Robert Mady]

HSCA interview of LOVELADY Part 1 ~3:00 into tape

HSCA "would you describe the shirt you were wearing?"

LOVELADY "NO!"

Edited March 23, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Robert Mady]

Official FBI photographs, evidence of the attire LOVELADY wore on 11/22/1963

Accepted by the FBI as factual.

Accepted and was unquestioned by the WC.

The news media proclaimed the evidence to be factual.

Edited March 25, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Robert Mady]

BALL demanded LOVELADY identify himself within Altgens #6, or did he?

Mr. BALL "Draw an arrow down to that, do it in the dark"

It is obvious that LOVELADY identified himself in Altgens #6 in such a manner that was and IS incomprehensible. It was imperative that LOVELADY not honestly disclose where he was located within Altgens #6, the only reason this could possibly be is that LOVELADY was not DOORMAN and he could not be made to lie and say he was. LOVELADY identifying himself within Altgens #6 would have given the game away.

[Robert Mady]

To FRAZIER

BALL "Let's take a maker and mark down that way, that mark is BILLY LOVELADY?

FRAZIER "Right"

What does BALL mean mark down that way, it means point an arrow toward LOVELADY, the arrow does not touch LOVELADY because LOVELADY is far from the point of the arrow.

Comprehend what BALL said.

As lawyers they could be disbarred for lying or for intentionally having someone lie, but they could deceive us by what they asked and how they ask it. This is what happened with FRAZIER and LOVELADY they were asked to identify LOVELADY and they both did, the impression is they pointed to DOORMAN, in reality FRAZIER pointed at Man Shielding Eyes and by BALLS's purposeful intention it is not possible to determine where LOVELADY pointed.

The impression the WC fostered is they both pointed to DOORMAN as LOVELADY. Just more WC fiction.

Edited March 23, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Ray Mitcham]

BALL demanded LOVELADY identify himself within Altgens #6, or did he?

Mr. BALL "Draw an arrow down to that, do it in the dark"

It is obvious that LOVELADY identified himself in Altgens #6 in such a manner that was and IS incomprehensible. It was imperative that LOVELADY not honestly disclose where he was located within Altgens #6, the only reason this could possibly be is that LOVELADY was not DOORMAN and he could not be made to lie and say he was. LOVELADY identifying himself within Altgens #6 would have given the game away.

The full question.

Mr Ball." Draw an arrow down to that; do it in the dark. You got an arrow in the dark and one in the white pointing toward you. Where were you when the picture was taken?

Mr. LOVELADY - "Right there at the entrance of the building standing on the the step, would be here (indicating)."

[Robert Mady]

Ray, thank you for making the post more complete.

Every word can be of significance.

FRAZIER arrow pointing directly toward Man Shielding Eyes, over DOORMANs head.

This is deception. Smoke and mirrors, more than sufficient to have fooled the children.

LOVELADYS arrow indicating his location cannot be discerned in any manner. Blatant deception.

Edited March 24, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Robert Mady]

For those of you who are unfamiliar with LOVELADYS claims of what he wore on 11/22/1963 here is the FBI report that accompanied the photographs already posted

The revisionist insist that LOVELADY was confused and the FBI was incompetent. They insist LOVELADY wore plaid the day of the assassination dispite what LOVELADY claimed officially to the FBI agents on 02/29/1964, what the FBI and the WC accepted as true and the media proclaimed as fact, that the shirt seen in the FBI photographs matched the attire of DOORMAN.

Despite LOVELADYS flat refusal to describe his shirt to the HSCA investigator in 1977, NO! is what LOVELADY replied.

Edited March 24, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Robert Mady]

Evidence was posted claiming BARNETT and SMITH were standing guard at the front door within minutes of the gunfire and did not allow people to enter or leave without authorization from a lieutenant. Provided were the names of eight employees that worked in the TSBD building that were prohibited from entering the building within minutes of the shooting. Could a defender of LOVELADY on the steps please advance a theory as to exactly when the Martin and Hughes films were taken, how and why LOVELADY was allowed to leave the TSBD for a smoke break or reenter after the smoke break?

How can these films fit into the time line outlined in LOVELADYS testimony that claimed he left the steps following the shooting to walk down to the rail yards and saw BAKER and TRULY enter the TSBD, this would have been within seconds of the last shot, LOVELADY got to the rail yards and then immediately returned the TSBD entering through the garage and he saw VICKY ADAMS on the first floor (ADAMS claimed she had run down the stairs from the fourth floor and was going to the rail yards), he claimed he stayed on the first floor for 30 minutes then escorted police to sixth floor of the TSBD?

Edited March 24, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Robert Mady]

Please note there were three DP officers stationed on the corners of Elm and Houston, BARNETT and SMITH and SMITH.

We have photographs of one SMITH running towards the stair way on the grassy knoll, J.D. SMITH running toward where the HESTERS were located in the monument area, that leaves BARNETT, the DP officer in the COUCH film can only be BARNETT.

What is interesting is that the fact that this is a DP officer in the Couch film means it has to be BARNETT, which means he lied in testimony, in that he did not run north on Houston to the back of the TSBD because he thought shots came from the roof, he ran down Elm street extension because he thought shots came from the monument area, same as Officers SMITH and SMITH that were stationed on the same corner.

This also reinforces, no shots originated from the TSBD. BARNETT had been stationed almost directly under the SN window.

BARNETT should be considered to be an unreliable witness.

Edited March 24, 2015 by Robert Mady

[Robert Mady]

Edited March 24, 2015 by Robert Mady