Glenn Nall Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 i was looking up stuff on Dorothy Kilgallen yesterday and came across Richard Charnin's & John Simkin's JFKCalc spreadsheets on all the deaths - I'd already had in mind to make a webbased timeline of certain aspects of the Assassination (a nice visual for some folks) and this spreadsheet came in handy, so I put one together today just using the data from it - I'd love some input from you all. A lot of details and images could be added since there are over 400 entries - I don't in any way mean to put together something as comprehensive as this and other websites, but it's something a little different, a different approach visually, i think. anyway, if ya'll could take a peek and tell me what you think - if anyone would like to add more info or photos (like on some of the more prominent deaths, Kilgallen, Pinchot Meyer, etc...), it's just a matter of putting into a spreadsheet - I'd appreciate the help! http://glennnall.com/string-of-jfk-related-deaths/#36 you can drag the timeline along the bottom or use the arrows, of course. If this post is inappropriate here, my apologies - I just wanted you all to see this. Thanks, Glenn Nall
Roger DeLaria Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I didn't get too far into it yet, but it looks pretty good. Might video segments be added if there are any, and are appropriate? Nice job.
Glenn Nall Posted June 2, 2015 Author Posted June 2, 2015 I didn't get too far into it yet, but it looks pretty good. Might video segments be added if there are any, and are appropriate? Nice job. sure, video will work - any suggestions or offerings are welcome...
Brian Schmidt Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Cool resource, Glenn. One edit: Antonio Veciana is still alive. He survived the 1979 assassination attempt. I posted this on another thread, but perhaps add Rufus Taylor, who died in September 1978 (during the HSCA testimonies) within 10 days of Thomas Karamessines. Taylor graduated from the Naval Academy in 1933 and studied in Japan from 1938-1941. He became Assistant Chief of Intelligence for the Pacific Fleet and was in Japan in 1959 when Oswald was at Atsugi Air Base and was involved with U2 work. During the time of Oswald's defection, Rufus became Director for Foreign Intelligence in the Soviet Union. He was then Director of Naval Intelligence in 1963 at the time of the assassination until 1966 when he became Deputy Director of CIA. According to Victor Marchetti, who worked under Taylor in CIA, Taylor had personally come to him prior to the publication of CIA and the Cult of Intelligence to attempt to persuade Marchetti to halt its release. Also, throughout Helms' 1978 HSCA testimony, when asked about why they didn't peruse Oswald further or debrief him when he returned to the US, he repeatedly says because it was Naval Intelligence's responsibility and to ask ONI.Interestingly, Taylor's files from 1959 to 1964 "went missing." Coincidentially, Thomas Karamessines died 10 days before Taylor on September 4, 1978 at age 61. He had been scheduled to testify before the HSCA. He, along with Helms, were responsible for investigated the activities of Oswald in the immediate aftermath of the assassination. So we have two Deputy Directors of the CIA, both with a great deal of knowledge about Oswald, dying within 10 days of each other during the HSCA. Also, in 1973, Victor Marchetti revealed that at the time of the Garrison investigation, then-Director Helms regularly queried senior officers at morning staff briefings whether "we are giving them [Clay Shaw and David Ferry] all the help we can." Present at these meetings were Deputy Director Admiral Rufus Taylor and Deputy Director of Plans Thomas Karamessines (the only two people the book mentions). When he asked why the Agency should be interested in a case in the domestic courts, Marchetti was informed that both Shaw and Ferrie had been contract agents, and further revelations about them could be "very embarrassing to the agency."
Glenn Nall Posted June 3, 2015 Author Posted June 3, 2015 Cool resource, Glenn. One edit: Antonio Veciana is still alive. He survived the 1979 assassination attempt. I posted this on another thread, but perhaps add Rufus Taylor, who died in September 1978 (during the HSCA testimonies) within 10 days of Thomas Karamessines. Taylor graduated from the Naval Academy in 1933 and studied in Japan from 1938-1941. He became Assistant Chief of Intelligence for the Pacific Fleet and was in Japan in 1959 when Oswald was at Atsugi Air Base and was involved with U2 work. During the time of Oswald's defection, Rufus became Director for Foreign Intelligence in the Soviet Union. He was then Director of Naval Intelligence in 1963 at the time of the assassination until 1966 when he became Deputy Director of CIA. According to Victor Marchetti, who worked under Taylor in CIA, Taylor had personally come to him prior to the publication of CIA and the Cult of Intelligence to attempt to persuade Marchetti to halt its release. Also, throughout Helms' 1978 HSCA testimony, when asked about why they didn't peruse Oswald further or debrief him when he returned to the US, he repeatedly says because it was Naval Intelligence's responsibility and to ask ONI. Interestingly, Taylor's files from 1959 to 1964 "went missing." Coincidentially, Thomas Karamessines died 10 days before Taylor on September 4, 1978 at age 61. He had been scheduled to testify before the HSCA. He, along with Helms, were responsible for investigated the activities of Oswald in the immediate aftermath of the assassination. So we have two Deputy Directors of the CIA, both with a great deal of knowledge about Oswald, dying within 10 days of each other during the HSCA. Also, in 1973, Victor Marchetti revealed that at the time of the Garrison investigation, then-Director Helms regularly queried senior officers at morning staff briefings whether "we are giving them [Clay Shaw and David Ferry] all the help we can." Present at these meetings were Deputy Director Admiral Rufus Taylor and Deputy Director of Plans Thomas Karamessines (the only two people the book mentions). When he asked why the Agency should be interested in a case in the domestic courts, Marchetti was informed that both Shaw and Ferrie had been contract agents, and further revelations about them could be "very embarrassing to the agency." Outstanding - I will make these adjustments. I'm not sure how old the spreadsheets are, but I'm willing to bet there is room for amendment. And as it is that the Spartacus links are previewing on the timeline, I might require John's permission for them to be visible...? Not sure, I can remove them easily if necessary.
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