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i thought the melodrama was just NPR as usual.

i couldn't stop the interview for some time - interesting about his alcohol consumption and the cabinet making the decision to escalate without him. wow.

makes me wonder what demons from years previous he was trying to drown...

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Brian: I had the same reaction as you did. Weiner fails to mention that it was LBJ who got us deep into Vietnam, issuing a new policy in 1963 within days of JFK's assassination. It was LBJ's payoff to the military-industrial-oil-intelligence complex. Nixon inherited that mess -- really a tragedy-- when elected in 1968. He quotes only Philip Habib in support of his thesis that Nixon sabotaged the peace negotiations and prolonged the war.

Weiner comes across as overly biased.

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The photo posted on the forum was not posted by me. When I signed on to join the forum in 2006, another member posted that photo before I had a chance to insert the one I had selected. Since I was the new kid on the block I decided not to make an issue of it and let it ride. Here it is nine years later.

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Doug, I think you look quite distinguished either way - and clearly your ego is not such that you're worried enough about your picture to change it. My ego, on the other hand, would have me changing mine every other day or so until i looked like Robert Redford.

vanity of vanities, all is vanity!!! ;)

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To clarify the point I was trying to make :

I just picked up and had a bit of a read of Terry Jones' BARBARIANS and found the foreword helpful...

"Nobody ever called themselves 'barbarians'. It's not that sort of word. It's a
word used about other people. In fact, it's a term of otherness. It had been used
by the Ancient Greeks to describe non-Greek people whose language they
couldn't understand and who therefore seemed to babble unintelligibly: 'Ba ba
ba'. The same word, Barbara, appears in Sanskrit, the language of ancient
India, meaning 'stammering, gibbering' – in other words, alien."

So, using that way of conceptualising 'otherness' one can see the idea of 'alien presence' as being a 'code' for human otherness.

Choosing to do so in understanding Hunts non-verbal, seeming, assent to the idea that JFK was killed because of something to do with a communication about an otherness to an enemy makes it possible to hypothesise about the meaning of this code and to whom it may be detrimental for such a communication to occur.

If one takes the world of JFK and Kruschev as not being the other it seems to me natural to look at a common enemy.

I have, without convincing myself, suggested that to be some unknown left wing revolutionary grouping. It makes more sense to look at the far right reactionary groupings that both the USSR and moderate elemnts of capital consider historical enemies. Nazis, Neo nazis, nationalists, fascists.

US society was/is deeply infiltrated with such people, and its organs of subversion, like the CIA, were/are actively involved in protecting them, particularly in the context of the Cold War. (Gladio, stay behinds, Strategy of Tension, Gehlen *et.c. ...)

It is interesting that significant nazis were able to disappear after the war and then a few years later reappear with new id's in high government position in germany, ( (Kohl, Peters...) and were beginning to be unmasked at the time that JFK was assassinated). The US was traditionally the nation that enabled this. Nixon, for example, was involved in the importation of Nazis to the US.

edit : (plus some typos) ... * I have to change the link* I had to a site that loooks into the bush-hitler connection because it is a current topic and people like piper and other fascists are spreading disinformation. Instead, here is a balanced article on a respected site:.. at world socialist web site .org that goes into some detail about it :

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/06/bush-j05.html

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John, I agree. I distinctly remember PSAs on TV asking for aliens to register. It really freaked me out as a kid! Anyway, after doing some hunting, I found a radio link:

(Note: there are exceptions to the registry)

The PSA starts about 1min 40 sec in the broadcast:

http://cbsrmt.thelongtrek.com/kixi/750109%20Berenice_KIXI.mp3

(There is also a bit of news about John Dean getting out of jail after the commercial)

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IMO JFKs proposal for a joint effort ( USA-SU)to reach the moon, in his UNO Speech on 20.9.1963 had nothing to do with an alien presence on earth, in which you, Mr. Caddy, seem to believe. You seem to believe that JFK was too convinced of such a presence, and you seem to believe Howard Hunt, who told you in 1975, JFK was murdered, because he was about to give away the greatest secret of the USA to the Sowjets: the knowledge of an alien presence on earth. O la la...

Anyway, the first part of your Y-Tube interview (the way you met Howard Hunt and became involved with Watergate), is interesting.

KK

Karl: You write: "IMO JFKs proposal for a joint effort ( USA-SU)to reach the moon, in his UNO Speech on 20.9.1963 had nothing to do with an alien presence on earth. . ."

To which I respond: How do you know? Don't you think its a bit extraordinary that--with all the Cold War tensions--JFK would 'reach out' like that to the Soviet Union? And then, look at the NSAM he wrote, and the people to whom it was addressed. Don't you find all this a bit, er, unusual?

DSL

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Hi David, I'm going to respond even though you asked Karl - and by the way, I enjoyed your post on impersonations. To my view I don't find JFK's outreach inconsistent at all. In 1963 JFK was pursuing a broad

variety of actions which were both high risk and sometimes seemingly at odds....conflicting tracks as it were. In Vietnam he was searching for a way to get American ground forces out of the nation and forcing some

sort of political solution - while at the same time seriously accelerating covert military operations against the North. He was pursuing neutrality in Laos, while at the same time beginning to send field artillery to the Hmong.

In Cuba he was probing a back-channel negotiation to move Castro away from the Soviets - while still allowing some level of covert operations to continue, and also allowing military contingency planning and exercises...but clamping down on exile military activity.

As far as the Soviets were concerned, his peace speech was clearly an outreach and I find that totally consistent with a desire for bringing them into a joint moon mission - he was devoted to reducing the risk of

nuclear conflict and to building some sort of buffers against spasm type nuclear exchanges. You can find that in the changes to the SIOP he was demanding.

The net to me is that there is simply no need to insert "alien presence" into JFK's motives and activities.... Larry

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IMO JFKs proposal for a joint effort ( USA-SU)to reach the moon, in his UNO Speech on 20.9.1963 had nothing to do with an alien presence on earth, in which you, Mr. Caddy, seem to believe. You seem to believe that JFK was too convinced of such a presence, and you seem to believe Howard Hunt, who told you in 1975, JFK was murdered, because he was about to give away the greatest secret of the USA to the Sowjets: the knowledge of an alien presence on earth. O la la...

Anyway, the first part of your Y-Tube interview (the way you met Howard Hunt and became involved with Watergate), is interesting.

KK

Karl: You write: "IMO JFKs proposal for a joint effort ( USA-SU)to reach the moon, in his UNO Speech on 20.9.1963 had nothing to do with an alien presence on earth. . ."

To which I respond: How do you know? Don't you think its a bit extraordinary that--with all the Cold War tensions--JFK would 'reach out' like that to the Soviet Union? And then, look at the NSAM he wrote, and the people to whom it was addressed. Don't you find all this a bit, er, unusual?

DSL

David

It is my understanding, that Kennedy offered a joint space program to Khrushchev first at the Vienna Meeting in May 1961. Khrushchev then showed no interest. The Chairman was about to change his mind in the fall of 1963. (Opposed were James Webb and nearly the whole NASA staff.)

With Kennedy dead and buried, that idea was buried too. After Khrushchevs disempowerment, 11 month after Kennedys assassination, both sites decided to stage a race to the moon. I do not now how to insert aliens here.

KK

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Houston Media Source is sponsoring an interview with me about Watergate and the JFK assassination this Thursday, June 11, from 6:30 pm until 7:30 pm Central Time. It can be viewed in Houston on TV or online anywhere in the world. In Houston it can be seen on TV on Comcast 17, At&T U-verse 99, Phonoscope 75, TV Max 95 and Sudden Link 99. Below is a link to view it online.

I plan to discuss what Howard Hunt told me when we had a dinner in Washington in 1975 prior to his entering prison to serve his sentence handed down in Watergate by Judge Sirica. He disclosed at that time why the burglars went into Watergate and why JFK had to be assassinated.

Prior to Watergate Howard had been both a close friend and client. For legal reasons discussed in my Watergate Memoir found elsewhere in this forum, after Watergate broke I saw Howard on only three occasions: when he came to my residence in Washington on June 17, 1972, a short time after the arrests at Watergate to retain my legal services in the case, when I attended the funeral of his wife, Dorothy, after her mysterious death in a plane crash in Chicago in December 1972, and then at the dinner in 1975.

Link to view the program online live:

http://www.hmstv.org/HMSLive.aspx

Douglas,

I'm looking forward to it.

Thanks for the head's up.

-- Tommy :sun

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Houston Media Source is sponsoring an interview with me about Watergate and the JFK assassination this Thursday, June 11, from 6:30 pm until 7:30 pm Central Time. It can be viewed in Houston on TV or online anywhere in the world. In Houston it can be seen on TV on Comcast 17, At&T U-verse 99, Phonoscope 75, TV Max 95 and Sudden Link 99. Below is a link to view it online.

I plan to discuss what Howard Hunt told me when we had a dinner in Washington in 1975 prior to his entering prison to serve his sentence handed down in Watergate by Judge Sirica. He disclosed at that time why the burglars went into Watergate and why JFK had to be assassinated.

Prior to Watergate Howard had been both a close friend and client. For legal reasons discussed in my Watergate Memoir found elsewhere in this forum, after Watergate broke I saw Howard on only three occasions: when he came to my residence in Washington on June 17, 1972, a short time after the arrests at Watergate to retain my legal services in the case, when I attended the funeral of his wife, Dorothy, after her mysterious death in a plane crash in Chicago in December 1972, and then at the dinner in 1975.

Link to view the program online live:

http://www.hmstv.org/HMSLive.aspx

Douglas,

I'm looking forward to it.

Thanks for the head's up.

-- Tommy :sun

Oh, I just realized it already happened.

-- Tommy :sun

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If anyone personally believes the UFO/ET-visiting-Earth story is true ( going back to Roswell or even before ) then they must also believe that JFK would have known much about it and would have had his own opinions regarding how to handle the information. JFK conflicted with all the other top power groups in so many areas, you can bet he probably did in this area as well.

Has anyone here ever read or heard the story of a security officer on one of JFK's flights saying JFK noticed him reading an article on the UFO subject and spontaneously asked the officer if he believed that stuff? And that after the officer answered back ( not sure what his answer was ) that JFK said something back to him suggesting there is more to the subject than he ( the officer ) would think?

And don't forget Reagan's speech to the UN where he spoke of a hypothetical scenario of an ET threat to the Earth...and how this could be a reason for all countries to forget their differences in the common bond of defense of such a threat?

I've concluded that whoever owns and controls the full folder of our most important secrets is basically the final authority in running this country. And if the ET secret is our most important one, and the group that controls this particular secret is not of our "elected" government ... well?

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