Nancy Carole Tyler

[John Simkin]

I believe this woman is an important witness who had vital information on the assassination. Does anyone know who she is? I will give you a clue. The photograph shows her just before she took the fifth amendment in 1964. This pleased both Lyndon Johnson and Robert Kennedy. Unfortunately she changed her mind about this and died in an accident in 1965. Her roommate also died in another accident as well.

[Tim Gratz]

I believe this woman is an important witness who had vital information on the assassination. Does anyone know who she is? I will give you a clue. The photograph shows her just before she took the fifth amendment in 1964. This pleased both Lyndon Johnson and Robert Kennedy. Unfortunately she changed her mind about this and died in an accident in 1965. Her roommate also died in another accident as well.

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I believe her name was Carol Tyler and she died in a plance crash in 1965. Her rrommate's name was Mary Jo Kopechne. Kopechne died in a car accident in July of 1969. Both ladies were secretaries for U.S. Senator George Smathers.

[John Simkin]

I believe her name was Carol Tyler and she died in a plance crash in 1965.  Her rrommate's name was Mary Jo Kopechne.  Kopechne died in a car accident in July of 1969.  Both ladies were secretaries for U.S. Senator George Smathers.

That's right. Nancy Carole Tyler worked as secretary to Bobby Baker. She lived with Mary Jo Kopechne, who worked for George Smathers. It was later discovered that the home was owned by Baker who used it to hold parties for his political and business associates.

Tyler took the fifth amendment before the Senate Rules Committee and refused to reveal details of Baker's business activities (and therefore keeping LBJ very happy). However, Hoover knew all about what had been going on. He had bugged Tyler's phone (as well as Fred Black's hotel room where he carried out business meetings).

After refusing to testify she moved back to Tennessee. However, she returned in 1965 to work with Baker as his bookkeeper at the Carousel Motel. Tyler believed that Baker would leave his wife. When he refused, she became very angry and according to Baker, made "scenes". This included threats to commit suicide. Maybe she made other types of threats.

Nancy Carole Tyler died in a plane crash, near Ocean City, Maryland, on 10th May, 1965. A pilot, Robert Davis, took her out for a spin. The plane crashed into the sea, just a couple of hundred yards from the Carousel Motel.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKtylerN.htm

[Shanet Clark]

John,

Of course you realize if this Carole Tyler was Bobby Baker's secretary and an intimate acquaintance of Senator George Smathers AND Mary Jo Kopechne's roommate it adds weight to the alternate hypothesis you gave us concerning Kopechne's death. She knew too much. I had a hard time accepting the "Howard Hunt did it to discredit Ted Kennedy" theory of Chappaquiddick, but actually the scenario you painted on another thread explains some anomalies about the events of that night, only the bad guys weren't Ted and his pals, they were the bad guys from Watergate and Dallas fame...very interesting...

[William Plumlee]

John,

Of course you realize if this Carole Tyler was Bobby Baker's secretary and an intimate acquaintance of Senator George Smathers AND Mary Jo Kopechne's roommate it adds weight to the alternate hypothesis you gave us concerning Kopechne's death.  She knew too much. I had a hard time accepting the "Howard Hunt did it to discredit Ted Kennedy" theory of Chappaquiddick, but actually the scenario you painted on another thread explains some anomalies about the events of that night, only the bad guys weren't Ted and his pals, they were the bad guys from Watergate and Dallas fame...very interesting...

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I I find this very interesting. I think you 'ole' boys are getting somewhere. I hope somebody follows through. Keep on plugging.. soon your good work will be discredited by some out there that still hold the gate. Mark my words. Tosh

[Wim Dankbaar]

Yep, interesting thread. Does anyone know how many others died in Tyler's plane crash?

Wim

[John Simkin]

Does anyone know how many others died in Tyler's plane crash?

Just one other, the pilot, Robert O. Davis. Here are two accounts of the accident. The first by Bobby Baker (Wheeling and Dealing: Confessions of a Capitol Hill Operator). The second by a friend of Baker's Milton Viorst (Hustlers and Heroes)

(1) Carole Tyler had resigned from her job in the Senate shortly after I had quit mine; as I did, she took the fifth amendment before the Senate Rules Committee. For a while she returned to her home in Tennessee, but after the headlines cooled off she returned to Washington to work for me-which, of course, made new headlines. We had continued our romance. I loved Carole, but I refused to leave my family for her. This led to stormy scenes in which she sometimes cried or threatened to commit suicide. Despite such scenes there were moments of fun and sharing. Certainly I was not prepared for what happened to her on a Sunday in early May of 1965.

Carole was at the Carousel, where she was working as my bookkeeper. On Sunday morning she and her roommate, a young woman named Dee McCartney, began having drinks with a West Virginia man, Robert O. Davis, who had been vacationing at the Carousel for about a week. She originally had intended to take a sightseeing tour over the eleven-mile-long island on which the Carousel was built, in Davis's private plane, but the morning weather was judged too soupy for flying. They continued to drink; observers later told me the pilot appeared to be pretty tipsy. About 2 p.m., Robert Davis and Carole Tyler drove to the Ocean City airport, the weather having turned bright and sunny, and went up in his airplane. Witnesses later said that the single-engine aircraft approached the Carousel, buzzed it a few times at low altitudes, and then began to pull up sharply as it banked into a turn taking it out over the Atlantic. The aircraft failed to come out of the turn. It hit the water nose-first at high speed and sank like a stone, only a couple of hundred yards from the Carousel.

I was in Washington when someone called to tell me the bad news. My wife and I, and my physician, Dr. Joseph Bailey, chartered a small airplane and flew to Ocean City as quickly as we could. It was nearing nightfall by the time we arrived. I boarded one of the Coast Guard boats searching for the wreckage, and I was on hand when the plane was pulled from the deep shortly after 1 p.m. When I saw Carole's body, dressed in a green pants suit I had bought her, I broke down and cried like a baby. Dr. Bailey told me that she and the pilot had died instantly of massive head injuries. The hardest thing I ever had to do was call Carole's mother and tell her that her daughter was dead.

Dorothy and I were among twenty-odd of Carole's Washington friends who accompanied her body on the train to Lenoir City, Tennessee, for burial. Through those long, dismal rites I felt that I had bottomed out for sure, that life never would be good again, and I knew that not for a long time-if ever-would I care for anyone as deeply as I had cared for Carole. She had stood by me with unswerving loyalty and affection when others had cut and run. She was only twenty-six, I thought. She had only started to live. God, what a waste of beauty and goodness.

(2) After a hard day at the Senate, when anyone else would be glad to get home to bed, Bobby Baker would be starting the evening's fun with the Mexican hat dance. The frolic might go on till dawn. Bobby's secretary was Carole Tyler, a Tennessee beauty with whom he was often seen in public. Carole's place in Southwest Washington, an upper-middle-class redevelopment area of closely packed high-rises and town houses, became the center where Bobby's friends, male and female, often met. How Bobby spent his off-duty hours was more or less common knowledge on the Hill, but those were the days when Bobby was on top, when there seemed nothing unusual about his diversions and when no one thought that, as Senate practices go, there was anything there to get excited about...

The... sex's arrow struck again, when a neighbor of Carole Tyler's, a newspaper reporter, discovered, in scanning the list of eligible voters in the residential co-op, that Bobby Baker was actually the owner of Carole's house, now widely known for its lavender carpet (the same, by the way, with which the Baker bedroom in Spring Valley and the lobby of the Carousel are decorated). In explanation, Bobby has since declared: "She and her roommate were paying $250 a month for an apartment. I fussed at her. I said you're getting up old enough where you ought to be building up a little equity in a place. So they went and they found a place that they wanted. And because they didn't have the net worth to get it, I agreed to put a financial statement in whereby they could get it and build up some equity. Is that criminal or illegal or un-American to try to help two young ladies build up equity?" But the public was scarcely interested in looking at Carole's house as a token of philanthropy. It became a tourist attraction and dozens of gawkers passed it in their cars. But Bobby was undeterred. He continued to give parties there regularly. If he encountered an old Senate acquaintance, many of whom lived in the neighborhood, he didn't turn up his coat collar but, on the contrary, said in his usual friendly way, "Hello, how are you? Nice to see you again." On weekends he even washed Carole's car in the parking lot. If Bobby was, in reality, embarrassed by his publicity, he managed to conceal it very well...

Carole Tyler used to be a normal visitor to the Carousel. Her figure was familiar on the beach and in the bar. Then, in May, 1965, she was killed. Carole was joyriding in a Waco biplane, when the pilot made a flip, failed to pull out in time and plunged into the Atlantic directly in front of the motel. Bobby was there when they brought her body ashore. He knew that the assembled crowd, mostly townspeople in threadbare clothes, expected him to say something appropriate. But there wasn't much you could say about Carole, beyond noting that she was a very pretty girl from a small town in Tennessee who found zest in Washington and lived her life with more gusto than it required. Her friends agreed later that she had chosen a kicky way to go. "All I can say," Baker uttered finally to the bystanders, "is that she was a very great lady." Baker was more accurate than that in taking head counts in the Senate. Whatever Carole was, that wasn't it. But Bobby had style and he wasn't going to let Carole, who was dear to him, leave the world without some of it as adornment.

[John Simkin]

I recently discovered that three senators, Carl T. Curtis, John Williams and Hugh Scott made strenuous attempts to expose the Bobby Baker scandal. The LBJ tapes reveal that he was able to blackmail Williams and Scott into silence (they had both been recorded doing things at the Quorum Club). However, it is clear from the tapes that they were unable to dig up any dirt on Curtis. Therefore, in theory he was free to say what he knew about the case. Searching on the web I discovered that Curtis died on 24th January, 2000. However, I was delighted to discover that he published a book on his attempts to bring an end to corruption in Congress: Forty Years Against the Tide (1986). I ordered the book from Adsrus Books (Des Moines) and it arrived this morning. It contains a lot of interesting information that helps us understand the Grant Stockdale case and the whole issue of Bobby Baker. He also has a lot to say about Billie Sol Estes.

Curtis was a member of the Senate Rules Committee that interviewed Don Reynolds in secret on the day that JFK was assassinated. He remained on the Senate Rules Committee and spent two years trying to get the case investigated. Curtis admits that most of the information against Baker came from John Williams. According to Burkett Van Kirk, the lawyer who worked with Williams on this case, this information came from Robert Kennedy, who had leaked it in 1963 in an attempt to get LBJ dropped as vice president.

Curtis also reveals that much of the information on Baker came from a “bug” placed in Fred Black’s Washington hotel room in 1963 on instructions from RFK.

In his book Curtis reveals what went on behind closed doors on the Senate Rules Committee. The committee was made up of B. Everett Jordan (chairman and a man fully under the control of LBJ), Carl Hayden, Claiborne Pell, Joseph Clark, Howard Cannon and Robert Byrd. The three Republicans were Sherman Cooper (also on the Warren Commission), Hugh Scott and Carl Curtis.

The secret testimony of Don Reynolds on the day that JFK was assassinated led to other people being interviewed. This included Carole Tyler, Baker’s secretary. It became clear that she had handled funds involved in the bribing of politicians. She had also travelled several times to Los Angeles on Serve-U Corporation business. Tyler was called before the committee but she refused to answer questions in case she incriminated herself.

Curtis wanted to interview Margaret Broome, who had also been employed by Baker as a secretary. It seems that she could not be relied on to keep quiet. As a result, the six Democrats voted against allowing her to appear.

After the election Curtis tried again to persuade the Senate Rules Committee to try interviewing Tyler again. They refused. Even though they had evidence that she took part in bribing and corrupting members of the Senate.

Curtis was still fighting to get Tyler interviewed when she was killed in the accident close to Baker's hotel. Curtis is one of those who did not believe it was an accident.

[John Simkin]

G. R. Schreiber, The Bobby Baker Affair (1964)

Once the cat was out of the bag that Bobby Baker, a married man, had bought a townhouse for his beautiful young secretary, it was inevitable that girls would begin to figure in the Senate's much heralded investigation of Bobby's outside activities. As it happens, girls figure in much that goes on in Washington, both because there are so many of them in the myriad government offices and because Washington is a city on a perpetual party. And what are parties - cocktail or otherwise - without pretty girls?

Single girls outnumber other people by a wide margin in Washington. A passably attractive girl in a government office can go off to a party seven nights out of seven if she is so inclined. She can go with a male fellow worker who prefers not to take his wife. Or she can be window dressing (more if she prefers) at the parties given by the free spending lobbyists. There are always business executives from out of town who hate to eat alone.

A girl in Washington, like most girls anywhere, can go out as often and as far as her schedule and her scruples allow. The difference between Washington and other cities is that there are so many more opportunities.

Nancy Carole Tyler had come up to Washington from Lenoir City, Tennessee, a town of five thousand citizens some twenty miles from Knoxville. She had big bright eyes, a good figure, a determined chin, and a certificate to prove she had been named Miss Loudon County of 1957. Her first job was on the secretarial staff of a congressman from Delaware. Miss Loudon County got her picture in the Washington newspapers for the first time when she was photographed in 1960 at a statue raising ceremony at the Capitol. The newspapers reported that Miss Tyler had posed for the arms of the statue "Peace." It may have been that Bobby saw the photograph of Miss Loudon County, her long brown hair tumbling to her shoulders, a wide smile crinkling her eyes and showing her beautifully even teeth. Whether Bobby saw the picture or not, Nancy Carole moved over from the House of Representatives to the office of the secretary to the senate majority in February, 1961, and ever after where Bobby was, there was Nancy.

Nancy Carole joined Bobby's staff with the title of telephone page for the majority, a job which paid her $:i,687.56 to start. Her work was more than satisfactory and she was rewarded with a fast series of pay raises. Almost two months to the day after she joined Bobby's staff she got her first increase to $6,052.11. Four months later, in August, 1961, her salary was boosted to $6,538.19 and that October - eight months after she joined his staff Bobby promoted Nancy Carole to clerk for the secretary to the majority, a kind of administrative assistant, and raised her pay to $7,753.34.

October 16, 1962, one month before she moved into the townhouse Bobby purchased, Nancy Carole's salary was boosted again, this time to $8,296.07. All in all it was a history of consistently good merit increases and the take home pay was not at all bad for the twenty-three-year-old Miss Loudon County. Bobby wrote out a check to cover the down payment on the $28,800 townhouse and wrote checks for the $238 monthly payments, so Nancy Carole had enough left over from her salary to give lots of parties on her own in her attractive patio.

In 1964 Tyler was called before the Senate Rules Committee. She took the fifth amendment and refused to provide any information that would implicate Bobby Baker in any corrupt activities.

[J. Raymond Carroll]

I believe this woman is an important witness who had vital information on the assassination. Does anyone know who she is? I will give you a clue. The photograph shows her just before she took the fifth amendment in 1964. This pleased both Lyndon Johnson and Robert Kennedy. Unfortunately she changed her mind about this and died in an accident in 1965. Her roommate also died in another accident as well.

That she was quite a beautiful looking lady is not in dispute, nor is it disputed that she was awarded regular merit pay increases, but what evidence is there that she changed her mind about pleading the Fifth, and what evidence is there that she had vital information about the assassination?

[John Simkin]

There is a very interesting article called Bobby's High Life in Time Magazine on 6th November, 1963. This is far more detailed to the articles that appeared after the assassination of JFK and the Senate Rules Committee report.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/...,896999,00.html

Out of the hearing room and into the arms of waiting newsmen stepped Arizona's Democratic Senator Carl Hayden, a member of the Senate Committee on Rules and Administration. "No comment," grumbled Hayden. Next out was Nebraska's Republican Senator Carl Curtis. "I can't tell you a thing," said he.

The remaining members of the nine-man committee were equally uncommunicative about what they had found out so far in their investigation of Bobby Gene Baker, 35, who last month precipitously resigned from his $19,600-a-year position as Secretary for the Senate Majority. Indeed, not even Delaware's Republican Senator John Williams, who appeared before the committee as a witness against Baker, would say what was going on.

Why this sudden affliction of senatorial lockjaw? The answer seemed obvious: Baker is involved in a scandal of major proportions, and the Senate plainly feared that some of its own members are in it with him. Yet the Senate's self-protective silence had an unintended effect, creating a climate in which talk and speculation flourished with tales of illicit sex, influence peddling and fast-buck financial deals.

One subject of considerable curiosity was Carole Tyler, 24, a shapely (5 ft. 6 in., 35-26-35) Tennessee girl who won the title of "Miss Loudon County" before she turned up in Washington in 1959. Three years later she was Baker's private secretary at $8,000 a year. Chain-smoking, martini-drinking, party-loving Carole also became a favorite in Baker's high-flying circle of acquaintances.

Last December Carole took up housekeeping in a cooperative townhouse at 308 N Street S.W., just a short ride from the Capitol. It was a well-furnished apartment, with prints on the walls, silk draperies in the bedrooms, lavender carpeting in the bathrooms. The parties there were lively. The twist was danced both inside the house and on the patio outside; the convivial drinking and animated chatter lasted long into the night. Some nearby residents noted that visitors appeared in the daytime as well as the evening. "A lot of people used to come through the back gate," recalls one neighbor. "That struck us as strange. Most of our guests come through the front door."

Carole shared the house for a time with another girl, Mary Alice Martin, a secretary in the office of Florida's Democratic Senator George Smathers. But neither girl owned the heavily trafficked house they lived in. The owner was Bobby Baker, who bought it for $28,000 on a down payment of $1,600. On the FHA forms that he signed, Baker listed both girls as the tenants of the house, said that Carole was his "cousin." She resigned from her job as a Senate employee at the same time Baker did, and has not since been available to inquiring newsmen.

Investigators were also sifting through stories that concerned several call girls who operated in this rarefied atmosphere. Among these was a young German woman who was asked to leave the U.S. after FBI agents showed her dossier to other interested authorities. She was Ellen Rometsch, 27, a sometime fashion model and wife of a West German army sergeant who was assigned to his country's military mission in Washington. An ambitious, name-dropping, heavily made-up mother of a five-year-old boy, Elly was a fixture at Washington parties. In September, five weeks after the Rometsches were shipped back to West Germany, her husband Rolf, 25, divorced her on the ground of "conduct contrary to matrimonial rules." Last week, while Elly hid out on her parents' farm near Wuppertal, Rolf spoke ruefully of his Washington experience, said that he "had no idea what was going on behind my back. It's a case of a woman who falls for the temptation of a sweet life her husband can't afford."

One repository of the sweet life was the Quorum Club, located in a three-room suite at the Carroll Arms Hotel, just across the street from the new Senate Office Building. Elly is remembered as a hostess there.

Bobby Baker was a leading light of the "Q Club." He helped organize it, was a charter member and served on the board of governors. The club, so its charter says, is a place for the pursuit of "literary purposes and promotion of social intercourse." Actually it was open to anyone with a literate bankroll: initiation fee, $100; yearly dues, $50. Among the 197 members are many lobbyists and several governmental figures, including Democratic Senators Frank Church of Idaho, Daniel Brewster of Maryland, J. Howard Edmondson of Oklahoma and Harrison Williams of New Jersey. Among Republican members are two Congressmen, Montana's James Battin and Ohio's William Ayres.

Many members were quick to point out that the club is a handy place to dine ("My wife is fond of the steak and sandwiches," said Bill Ayres) as well as a convenient spot for cocktails. Decorated to the male taste, the club's dimly lit interior sports prints and paintings of women with imposing façades, leather-topped card tables, a well-stocked bar, a piano and, most convenient of all, a buzzer that is wired to the Capitol so that any Senator present can be easily summoned to cast his vote on an impending issue.

The Q Club was a useful spot for meeting influential people in business and politics. Such people, in turn, were useful to Bobby Baker in his breathless pursuit of a buck. It was, by any standard, a successful pursuit, for Baker's net worth rose to something around $2,000,000. That income, presumably, enabled Baker and his wife Dorothy, who has an $11,000-a-year job with a Senate committee, to move recently into a $125,000 house near the home of Bobby's friend and longtime Senate sponsor, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, in Washington's Spring Valley section.

Though he was well liked by many people, Bobby unquestionably left behind him a roiling trough of bitter enemies. One man who thinks that Bobby did him dirt is an old friend named Ralph Hill, president of Capitol Vending Co. Hill is suing Baker for $300,000. He claims that through Bobby he got a contract for the vending-machine concession at Melpar Inc., a Virginia electronics firm. Hill charges that Baker thereafter demanded a monthly cut from Hill in return for his good will.

Hill claims that for 16 months he appeared regularly at Baker's Capitol office with envelopes containing cash - $5,600 all told. Last March the Serv-U Corp. - a competing vending-machine firm, of which Baker's law partner Ernest Tucker is board chairman - moved to buy Capitol Vending's outstanding stock. Hill resisted, and Baker warned him that he would see to it that Melpar canceled Capitol Vending's contract. Sure enough, in August 1963, Melpar said it would.

Baker's dealings with the Novak family of Washington started out pretty well. Builder Alfred Novak and his wife were friendly with the Bakers. Early in 1960, Novak agreed to lay out $12,000 so that Baker could cash in on a good stock tip. They agreed to share fifty-fifty in the profits. And they did just that. The investment brought in $75,321, and Baker got his 50% - $37,660 - without having invested a cent of his own money.

It was with the Novak family that Baker launched a $1,200,000 motel, the Carousel, in Ocean City, Md. For the Novaks the experience was a painful one. Baker, who initially invested $290,000, borrowed on promissory notes from the Serv-U Corp., began campaigning for more money from the Novaks; he wanted to build a restaurant addition to the motel, then a nightclub. The Novaks could not afford the extra investment, sold some of their shares to Baker. The Novaks were disillusioned in their partner, and Novak became deeply depressed. Five months before the Carousel opened for business, he died at 44 of a heart attack. Says Gertrude Novak of Baker's handling of financial matters: "We felt we were being pushed up against the wall."

In any event, the Carousel, billed as a "high-style hideaway for the advise and consent set," opened with a merry party. Two hundred Washington big shots traveled to the event in chartered buses. Lyndon and Lady Bird Johnson were there, and Entrepreneur Baker was all over the place.

Baker also had a variety of other financial interests. Apart from his law firm, he was an agent for the Go Travel agency of Washington and invested in a Howard Johnson's motel in North Carolina. But he did not restrict himself solely to million-dollar enterprises. On at least one occasion, he showed an interest in the money problems of his Senate page boys. Young Boyd Richie was a $403-a-month telephone page in Baker's office. Richie, a 17-year-old Texan, roomed with another page, Walter J. Stewart, and paid Stewart $50 a month rent. Stewart, it seems, was on temporary military duty and so was not on the Senate payroll. One day he told Richie to give him an additional $50 a month - on orders of Bobby Baker.

For three months, Richie dutifully forked over the extra money, but the more he thought about it the angrier he became. It happened that Richie was dating Lucy Baines Johnson, L.B.J.'s 15-year-old daughter. So one evening when he came to call for Lucy, Richie confronted the Vice President in his den and told him what was going on. Next day Lyndon informed the boy that he need not continue the payoff and would be permitted to live rent-free for three months at Stewart's place to make up for his losses. Baker himself admitted that "some of Boyd Richie's money had been deferred. After all, he was just a teen-ager and making a good salary."

Another good Senate friend of Baker's was Oklahoma's millionaire Democrat Robert S. Kerr (Kerr-McGee Oil Industries Inc.). Before he died last January, Kerr was one of the Senate's most powerful members. At one point, Baker got a $275,000 mortgage on Serv-U Corp. from Oklahoma City's Fidelity National Bank, of which the Kerr family owns 12%.

A couple of weeks ago, Baker journeyed to Oklahoma City to see Kerr-McGee's President Dean A. McGee and the late Senator's son, Robert Jr. He said he wanted to find proof of the fact that Senator Kerr had once handed him $40,000 as a gift, told McGee that the Senator had said, "I want you to have the money. Be sure and report it on your income tax." But both McGee and young Kerr denied that the Senator had given Baker any money, insisted that there were no records of any gift. "I think I would know it if Dad had given him $40,000," says Kerr. Adds McGee: "There's only one person who really knows, and that's the Senator, and he's dead. Baker seemed to be concerned about it. He gave me the impression it was a problem."

Obviously, a lot of deep-digging investigating remained to be done before the scandalous skeins of Bobby Baker's high life could be untangled and strung back together in a definitive way. But it was just as certain that the U.S. Senate was doing itself no service by its closed-door, clam-mouthed handling of the case. For the way things were going, instead of only a handful of members suffering embarrassment or worse, the Senate and almost all its members were being subjected to suspicion.

[Guest Tom Scully]

http://books.google.com/books?id=fP0ywGXAo...ack&f=false

The man who ran the moon: James E. Webb and the secret history of Project Apollo

By Piers Bizony page 147-148

...On the surface, all was well at the Carousel. Behind the scenes, Baker was struggling....

..."Kerr loved Baker. Bobby was his ears, nose, throat, hands, and feet in the Senate." Black recalled. "Kerr was dedicated to making Baker a millionaire, the same as he'd made Jim Webb a millionaire."...

...."What's in it for Oklahoma?"

Interesting POV of Sen. Carl Hayden's staffer, Roy L. Elson, the brother of an FBI agent who advised that Baker was under investigation. He admits to passing off his brother's confidential tip to Baker, and he considered Baker a friend who he continued to be incontact with up to the time of this oral history interview in the early 1990's:

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BOBBY BAKER AND THE SENATE Interview #4 Thursday, June 7, 1990 ...

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RITCHIE: Let me ask you one question about Hayden as chairman of Appropriations under both of those men. Would the Senate Majority Leader, like Johnson or ...

http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/histor...Interview_4.pdf

[Michael Clark]

 

[Michael Clark]

1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said:

John Simkin on Facebook today asked if the death Nancy Carole Tyler was connected to the Kennedy assassination.

Was the death of Nancy Carole Tyler connected to the assassination of John F. Kennedy? Was the death of Nancy Carole Tyler connected to the assassination of John F. Kennedy?

http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKtylerN.htm

 

[David Josephs]

On 11/16/2004 at 9:26 AM, Tim Gratz said:

I believe her name was Carol Tyler and she died in a plance crash in 1965. Her rrommate's name was Mary Jo Kopechne. Kopechne died in a car accident in July of 1969. Both ladies were secretaries for U.S. Senator George Smathers.

If I remember correctly.... George Smathers, a JFK groomsman, was the source of financial aid and protector of one Judy V Baker while she was in FL at University..

As she tells it at least....

6 degrees of separation....