Douglas Caddy Posted July 16, 2016 Posted July 16, 2016 The Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy and “The Polka-dot File” From the article: But as Faura and others have proven, there was a conspiracy and a cover-up. That is a fact. It was intricate and well-executed conspiracy, just as the one in Dallas. Like Oswald, Sirhan was not the killer. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-assassination-of-robert-f-kennedy-and-the-polka-dot-file/5536013
Joe Bauer Posted July 17, 2016 Posted July 17, 2016 Yes, fascinating. Who was in charge of RFK's personal body guard security in the Ambassador at that time? It seems a given that someone of RFK's stature and just winning the Calif. primary, which everyone knew made him "the Democratic candidate" in the next election, would mandate much more serious physical protection than allowing an uneducated, racist, Nazi admiring rent-a-security guard George Zimmerman type cop wannabe who couldn't pass the basic psychological and educational requirements to be one, to be RFK's personal body to body escort. Assigning Thane Cesar ( who hated RFK and was armed no less ) to this position seems like a security lapse so negligent it shouts suspicion. There is an audio tape ( On You Tube ) of the Ambassador Hotel's night manager calling the L.A.P.D to first report a shooting at their hotel that night, right after RFK was gunned down. She tells the police dispatcher that RFK is at the hotel and this police dispatcher immediately interjects a derisive toned "Big Deal" in response to the lady manager's mention of RFK. This dispatcher's dislike of RFK was so strong and personal, he couldn't help but interjecting it, even though doing so was highly unprofessional in response to an emergency shooting call. His hateful words towards RFK couldn't help but make you think that many in the L.A. P.D. felt the same way about RFK and reminded you of the same ultra right wing Kennedy hating mind set of many Dallas PD personnel in 1963.
Larry Hancock Posted July 17, 2016 Posted July 17, 2016 Joe, to your question, LAPD had offered security the the RFK campaign but at that point in history things were pretty tense between many of his supporters and the police and the LAPD offers was rebuffed - the campaign even hired its own motorcycle officers for security during a couple of his appearances. I know that's hard to understand but at that time there was a lot of mistrust going around, the same thing happened in Memphis where the local organizers did not trust police and police spies and rejected a police security detail sent to meet King at the airport on his arrival - its doubtful King even knew about that as it was done by local folks who recognized certain of the officers sent as police intelligence. In LA security just was not on RFK's mind that much, he left it to supporters he trusted but who in turn had little experience themselves themselves. . If you would like a free read for some background, I do have a series of essays available on Mary Ferrell that cover the RFK assassination: https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Incomplete_Justice_-_At_the_Ambassador_Hotel.html As to this new book, which I have studied, the majority of its comment is not really new, it is covered extensively in documents from the original LAPD and FBI investigation because the story was given to them, the salesman source talked to law enforcement and the media extensively. The author has made a couple of questionable extensions relating to names in this new work but that's all I'll say about that. In any event, my essays are available to anyone who is not familiar with the RFK assassination and include a number of illustrations Sherry Feister helped me with - taken from the documents in the original police files - as well as links to a great deal of the original witness testimony and statements.
Ron Ecker Posted July 17, 2016 Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) One has to ask why anyone involved in the assassination would exit the place saying "We shot him, we shot him." I wonder if the girl in the polka dot dress was an alternate patsy. She could have been instructed to say what she said supposedly as a diversion, when in fact she was being set up as a Plan B patsy (with whoever else she was with) in case the Plan A patsy (Sirhan) didn't fire his shots. On the Fahey story, one again has to wonder why someone involved in the assassination would be so loose-lipped about it as she traveled around with Fahey that day. I'd be willing to bet that Fahey did pick up a woman that day and travel around with her, then, for a good story, substituted the girl in the polka dot dress for the woman he had actually been with. Edited July 18, 2016 by Ron Ecker
Larry Hancock Posted July 17, 2016 Posted July 17, 2016 Ron, actually there are some good explanations for why the individuals involved would behave that way...actually they had been doing so for several weeks before the attack, including at least one aborted incident targeting RFK and a private campaign function. They were leaving a trail a mile wide..if you take the trouble to trace it, which LAPD actually did - and then shut it down. The Robbies Restaurant attack was nearly averted by a security officer guarding the event. If you want more details you can check my blog and a series of interviews on the subject that are linked from it. I've blogged on this a good bit over the years, its certainly a conspiracy, no doubt about that...
Joe Bauer Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Larry, just read your essay. So informative. It reminds me again that the main group of contributors on this site are esteemed researchers and I am not. I feel embarrassed re-reading my few simple minded postings and seeing that they would be more appropriate on a "beginners" JFK website versus this much more " advanced" research one. However, I will continue to read the incredibly informed postings here and deeply appreciate the lifetime efforts you all have contributed in this heroic search for the JFK assassination truth. As well as the RFK and MLK assassination truths.
Larry Hancock Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Thanks Joe, glad it helped. Hey, it took me about ten years just to get my head around the JFK thing enough to write about it - and that was after about half a dozen totally false starts. And each of the other assassinations took another five years or so to get up to speed. It does take time, hopefully we are making resources available to speed up the process, that's why I mainly just post to point folks to them. There's no doubt its still a slog though...
Gene Kelly Posted November 2, 2016 Posted November 2, 2016 Larry/Ron: I agree that the individuals' collective behavior is realistic and logical. We tend to think of these events (JFK, RFK) as singular stories ... as though there was one and only location where the hit would take place. I've often thought of the many possibilities that existed where the murders would potentially occur, and how the planners and plotters had multiple chances both tried/failed. Both targets (JFK and RFK) were obviously being stalked. I sense that - like Dealey Plaza - there were several locations selected for Bobby, but for a variety of reasons were aborted or abandoned. I also don't think that John Fahey would've manufactured such a controversial story. Frankly, I'm surprised that his continued safety wasn't compromised. He had to know that such a story would bring undue attention (not the least of which from his wife and family) and I wonder out loud whatever happened to him. There is enough corroboration to say that his encounter happened, and that this particular girl (ethnicity, nose, shapely, odd affect) was seen by many witnesses. Frankly, it took courage for Fahey to come forward, and I'm sure he ultimately regretted going to the media, LAPD and FBI ... none of whom did him any justice. There are so many "loose ends" (coincidences, sinister affiliations, etc.) with RFK's death that one doesn't know where to start. I see the sane Game Plan' being used at the Ambassador Hotel that we saw in Dealey Plaza. I cannot help but think that the light being shined upon Nixon and company is illuminating the truth. As a child of the 60's and 70's, he was a villain then and has come to be more of a monster as history unveils all of his treason and duplicity. Gene
David Andrews Posted November 2, 2016 Posted November 2, 2016 Larry, is there another link to your In Your Ear interview on Surprise Attack? The Soundcloud connection on the radio station's page seems to have been disabled for all interviews, even the foodie stuff.
Larry Hancock Posted November 2, 2016 Posted November 2, 2016 I'll check and see if I can find another link David, had not looked at that since I posted it. We actually did two or three interviews on the subject over a couple of months. In regard to Gene's remark above, I think we could isolate at least three locations prior to the final attack where an attempt was made or at least planned. As to that night at the Ambassador, all the indicators show that it had to be a sort of attack at opportunity due to the size of the crowds, the security and the changes in entry and exit routes for RFK. If you track the movements of all the suspects you can see it as being very fluid, including their contacts with Sirhan. If could have failed at any point that night but once it became clear that RFK had entered via the pantry and the pantry was not totally cleared/secured the opportunity was there. Unfortunately RFK's decision not to employ professional security folks had a great deal to do with that; if he had used an experience team the pantry would not doubt have been cleared.
Larry Hancock Posted November 2, 2016 Posted November 2, 2016 Here you go David, these are working: The 1st RFK Show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ4isAHUuXg The 2nd RFK Show http://ochelli.com/podcasts/06022016-thursday-the-rfk-assassination-larry-hancock-stu-wexler-carmine-savastano/
Gene Kelly Posted November 3, 2016 Posted November 3, 2016 The fact that Khan and company (including Wayne/Wien) were hanging around (i.e. infiltrating) RFK's campaign headquarters (and purportedly stole an appointments book) speaks volumes to their stalking and multiple attack theory. Very creepy and the sign of an experienced operation. Given what happened to JFK, you'd think Bobby would've had tighter measures to surround and protect himself. He was after all a former Attorney General and influential person from a wealthy family. Its hard to imagine that he didn't have a comparable network of professionals to counter these goons. Its ironic that - after his murder - the protocol was changed to provide Secret Service protection for candidates ... not that that agency would've been any better as far as loyalty to a Kennedy. I don't think these people were simply part of a religious cult, as some have pointed out. They all vanished into the woodwork (like cockroaches) and never received any substantial attention. Infiltrating and using LAPD - plus controlling the evidence, witnesses, autopsy and trial - are also the marks of professionals, a game plan similar to Dealey Plaza. Khan and Wien were convenient cut-outs with no obvious ties to CIA, but have the fingerprints of Dulles and his gang. No mafia or Cubans this time around.
Michael Walton Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 I might be asking this too soon having not read any of the links in this thread - and I plan to do so. But after RFK says "...on to Chicago," it looks like he starts going one way, then is steered gently to go the other way to his death. Did anyone notice this? Is there any evidence that if he had gone the other way that there was a Sirhan redux set up the other way to shoot him there as well?
Larry Hancock Posted November 4, 2016 Posted November 4, 2016 While some of his staff were still focused on trying to take him out through the crowd and through the main doors he had made it clear to the folks who brought him down before that he was to tired to deal with the big crowds, hence his entry down the service elevator, through the kitchen and the pantry. So you had a split, some started to move him off the stage and others begin to move him out the way he had come in....reflects the real lack of professional security with his movements but it also reflects that the quick way to the press room was though the pantry hallway which ran behind all the rooms and on over behind the press room. But to answer your question, in my essays on the MFF site I trace the various sightings of the PDG, Sirhan and the young men that evening as they moved around the hotel. At one point they did try to enter the ballroom and were turned back. At a couple of points they were by the escalators leading to the ballroom. But that all changed and ultimately they met outside one of the sets of pantry entrance doors, apparently seeing people going in and realizing it was unguarded. That would have provided easy access to the stage from the rear. At that point they actually saw RFK go through the pantry hallway to get on stage and remained in position for his exit. My guess would be that if he had gone down on the stage, through the crowd and out the main door he would still have headed to the press room and they could easily moved to a position to intercept him... If this sounds complex, there are maps with the essays on MFF that make it a lot clearer...
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