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On 2/25/2018 at 11:06 PM, Steve Thomas said:

Colonel George B. Church, Jr. (spent 16 days at sea with Oswald in 1959)

Why is it that the purser and the Captain of a ship with only 4 passengers cannot say a single thing about our man Oswald or any of the other passengers?  Especially since they ate in the officer's mess...

Could CHURCH have somehow been involved in overseeing things?  Just a thought.

That ACSI, above, is defector related is an important lead... I'd think.

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Does this sound like our little Oswald?

 

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On May 14, 2018 at 2:55 PM, David Josephs said:

bumping this for Steve.... et al...

Seems the ACSI was somewhat involved with at least 2 of the defectors on the list from Otto which included Oswald, Webster and these 2....

That appeared to me a bit too close to home to ignore...

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=96584#relPageId=3&tab=page   

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You are right - close to home. Is it Otto Otepka's list you refer to?

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On 5/16/2018 at 5:42 AM, David Josephs said:

This is the list...  Yes, I think Otto was tasked with finding out the status from a military pov.  The file gives a detailed account for each...

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Why is Oswald underlined?

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12 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

Why is Oswald underlined?

Depends I guess on who had access to the docs...  could be at the time, could be a researcher after the fact... 

Looks like a copy of a copy anyway...

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Steve...  a new name for which I can find very little - so far...

Military attaché to Helsinki - Colonel BJORK...

I have a document from 1958 which states that Col. BJORK "calls the shots for American Espionage in Finland"

Any info you turn up would be appreciated...

DJ

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I found this on wikipedia which may or may not be related.  Delbert Leonard "Del" Bjork (6/27/14-8/26/88).  Not much info but it does say he was in the military and rose to rank of colonel.

The link where the info was found.  Military ID ? 032399 (from Official Army Register, volume 1, 1960, page 88)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Bjork

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11 hours ago, Michael Clark said:

My apologies if this link has already found a place in this thread.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=223425

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Michael,

 

No. I don't think this has been discussed in this thread.

I'm confused about how the Dallas Police Department would know about this phone call and why they would be interested.

 

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5 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

From Bill Kelly in the Education Forum 8/27/2006:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/7717-a-phone-call-from-out-of-the-blue-laary-haapanen-alan-rogers/

"Capt. W. P. Pat Giannaway was a Lt. Col. USAR. ".

 

Steve Thomas

And Captain Gannaway was rumored to be a member of the 488th. 

Does it not strike anyone as strange that JFK went up against the Federal Reserve by executive order to continue the silver certificates that were redeemable for a silver dollar? If I’ve read this correctly, that was ended in 1964. 

This thread should not have died. The article about Ed Coyne does not explain the mysterious phone call.

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19 hours ago, Michael Clark said:

My apologies if this link has already found a place in this thread.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=223425

From this thread

 

It's good to see a nod to Larry and Alan. Two long time researchers. Larry (the other Larry H) went with the local sheriff to delivery a subpoena from Garrison to Clint Wheat back in 1967. Wheat had left town. I think he got word. Larry did get to view some and borrow some of Wheat's far right literature - Million Man March, American Committee to Free Cuba, etc. Larry sent me one of Wheat's ACFC pamphlets. 

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A History of the Texas State Guard” by Colonel Curren R. McLane

 

Members of the Special Staff of the Texas State Guard Reserve Corps were:

Judge Advocate Section: Col. Charles O. Betts, Austin.”

 

Austin Sunday American Statesman Newspaper Archives

Sunday, June 04, 1950 - Page 19

 

Judge Charles O. Betts, former 10th District commander, told the group of the State Guard’s service during the war years, and of the legislation which continued the Texas State Guard Reserve Corps in permanent status subject to active service at any time the National Guard may be called into federal service.”

 

More on Charles O. Betts:

 

http://www.texastotheworld.com/the-lbj-murder-conference/

 

Regardless, the jury found (Mac) Wallace guilty of murder and eleven of the panelists wanted the death penalty while one suggested life in prison. The judge in the case, Charles O. Betts, issued a “jury verdict notwithstanding” and gave Wallace a five year suspended sentence.”

 

http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKjohnsonJ.htm

 

The jury found (Mac) Wallace guilty of "murder with malice afore-thought". Eleven of the jurors were for the death penalty. The twelfth argued for life imprisonment. Judge Charles O. Betts overruled the jury and announced a sentence of five years imprisonment. He suspended the sentence and Wallace was immediately freed. “

 

John Simkin in the Education Forum December 2, 2006.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/8715-david-harold-byrd/

 

“In 1944 Byrd founded Byrd Oil Corporation and B-H Drilling Corporation. In 1952 Byrd established the Three States Natural Gas Company. Byrd later sold Byrd Oil to Mobil and Three States to Delhi-Taylor. Byrd used this money to invest in aircraft production and established Temco. A company that employed Mac Wallace after he was convicted of killing John Kinser.”

 

John Simkin in the Education Forum December 3, 2006, quoting Richard Bartholomew (http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_i...e/rambler3.html)

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/8715-david-harold-byrd/

 

“Mac Wallace, who received a five-year suspended sentence in the shooting death of John Douglas Kiner in Austin on October 22, 1951, went to work for Temco, Inc. of Garland, Texas five months after his trial. He remained in that position until February 1961, four months before Henry Marshall's mysterious death on June 3, 1961, when he transferred to the Anaheim, California offices of LTV.

Still more LTV intrigues were revealed by Peter Dale Scott: "A fellow-director of [Jack Alston] Crichton's firm of Dorchester Gas Producing was D.H. Byrd, an oil associate of Sid Richardson and Clint Murchison, and the LTV director who teamed up with James Ling to buy 132,000 shares of LTV in November 1963.”

 

“Corsicana Daily Sun” from Corsicana, Texas March 31, 1970 Page 10

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/41268447/

“The building (the Texas School Book Depository) is owned by the Dallas Trust Corp. The majority stockholder of the firm, Col. D. Harold Byrd, 69, has decided to liquidate some of his holdings.”

 

Steve Thomas

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On 5/25/2018 at 9:06 AM, Paul Brancato said:

Does it not strike anyone as strange that JFK went up against the Federal Reserve by executive order to continue the silver certificates that were redeemable for a silver dollar? If I’ve read this correctly, that was ended in 1964.

Paul... you may wish to revisit that subject...  your summary is somewhat off...   This was not an attempt to remove currency oversight from the Fed to the Treasury as I understand it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

On November 28, 1961, President Kennedy halted sales of silver by the Treasury Department. Increasing demand for silver as an industrial metal had led to an increase in the market price of silver above the United States government's fixed price. This led to a decline in the government's excess silver reserves by over 80% during 1961. Kennedy also called upon Congress to phase out silver certificates in favor of Federal Reserve notes which, according to the Associated Press at that time, were still backed by gold.[2][3]

Kennedy repeated his calls for Congress to act on several occasions, including his 1963 Economic Report, where he wrote:[4]

I again urge a revision in our silver policy to reflect the status of silver as a metal for which there is an expanding industrial demand. Except for its use in coins, silver serves no useful monetary function.

In 1961, at my direction, sales of silver were suspended by the Secretary of the Treasury. As further steps, I recommend repeal of those Acts that oblige the Treasury to support the price of silver; and repeal of the special 50-percent tax on transfers of interest in silver and authorization for the Federal Reserve System to issue notes in denominations of $1, so as to make possible the gradual withdrawal of silver certificates from circulation and the use of the silver thus released for coinage purposes. I urge the Congress to take prompt action on these recommended changes.

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16 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

“Corsicana Daily Sun” from Corsicana, Texas March 31, 1970 Page 10

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/41268447/

“The building (the Texas School Book Depository) is owned by the Dallas Trust Corp. The majority stockholder of the firm, Col. D. Harold Byrd, 69, has decided to liquidate some of his holdings.”

https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/1959_80AF25CF0E76A.pdf

 

Memorandum to: Each member of Congress

 

In compliance with provisions of Public Law 476 of the 79th Congress, I am forwarding herewith the annual report of the Civil Air Patrol of 1959.

Stephen D. McElroy

Brigadier General, USAF

National Commander

 

“On 8 August (1959) the National Headquarters opened for business in its new home at Ellington AFB, Texas, in a building far more suitable than the old Bolling AFB facility. The Corporation received a new chief executive officer when Colonel D. Harold Byrd replaced General Carl Spaatz who retired in April after many years of service as National Chairman”

 

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