The St. Ruthie and St. Michael "We both know" call

[Chris Newton]

19 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said:

Well if Oswald did that, it would have been against the wishes of those trying to build an Oswald story in MC. Of course that doesn't mean that Oswald didn't do that.

I was thinking of those that may have been trying to build a story when I mentioned that. I don't know anything about the Mexican Security Services but Mexican law enforcement has a history of corruption from the lowest levels through the top. Former Presidents of Mexico were on the CIA payroll, didn't that come out recently?

[Paul Trejo]

On ‎8‎/‎6‎/‎2017 at 11:21 PM, James DiEugenio said:

Chris, Sandy:

Please, let us not lose sight of normality.  Which is always a tendency in this case.  For the simple reason that  this case is so full of anomalies.

The standard should simply be this:  the Warren Commission says that Oswald left New Orleans on September 25th.  He then took a bus to Houston, and picked up a bus to Laredo.,  He crossed over into Nuevo Laredo on the afternoon of the 26th. He then caught a Red Arrow bus to Mexico City.

He  arrived in Mexico City and checked into the Hotel Del Comercio.  He then made a total of five separate visitations to the Cuban and Soviet Consulates.

On September 30th he bought exchange orders for a Transportes del Norte bus back to Texas.  The next day, he checked out and went on this bus line from Mexico City to Laredo.  He then went by Greyhound from  Laredo to Dallas.

Now, if such was the case, there should be an ample, solid paper record of that whole journey.  From the start to the end.  That would be the normal world. ...

James,

Your mistaken in calling this "the normal world."  This is the Warren Commission version of the story.  The WC merely took the story from the FBI. 

The FBI, however, had to lie, lie, lie about the Mexico City trip, because it proved (as Harry Dean said) that Lee Harvey Oswald had associates -- that is -- accessories -- that is -- co-conspirators.

So, the FBI made up the whole Warren Commission story to make Lee Harvey Oswald look like a "Lone Nut."

So, you are beating a dead horse, as well as presenting a straw dog.

If you take the WC picture as normal, then of course something as silly as the Harvey & Lee CT will look better.

The truth is far different.  The Mexico City Immigration records show that Lee Harvey Oswald entered and exited Mexico City as a passenger in a car.  That's proof of associates.  That's what the FBI and the WC had to hush-up with their ridiculous bus-ride story, and their phony bus-ride witnesses.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited August 22, 2017 by Paul Trejo
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[James DiEugenio]

There is no normality at all to Mexico City. Period

And Harry's story should carry no weight since it does not at all explain what happened in the city or the return, which is pure vapor.

 

[Paul Trejo]

On ‎8‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 7:57 PM, James DiEugenio said:

There is no normality at all to Mexico City. Period

And Harry's story should carry no weight since it does not at all explain what happened in the city or the return, which is pure vapor.

James,

It was the Cold War.  What was normal in a time of threatened nuclear obliteration?

Harry Dean's story still carries weight, because he offers an account of what happened in Mexico City as he heard it from Radical Right leader Guy Gabaldon, he claims.

Harry Dean helped to load the paramilitary supplies trailer for Loran Hall and Larry Howard many times.   I take this to be a fact.

Loran Hall showed Harry Dean the money he got from Guy Gabaldon to drive Lee Harvey Oswald from New Orleans to Mexico City.

Loran Hall and Larry Howard match (to a significant degree) the description of "Leopoldo" and "Angelo" by Sylvia and Annie Odio.

Mexican Immigration records show that Lee Harvey Oswald entered and exited Mexico as a passenger in an automobile.

So, Harry Dean's story remains plausible -- despite 52 years of harsh criticism.   Harry's story still carries weight.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo