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11 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

 

 

Trump/Russia is Watergate on steroids. The future of our country and of Western Civilization is at stake. Mueller knows this and is proceeding accordingly. Lawyers recognize this if the general public does not.

There's also a great many career civil servants who are aware of this calamity and I'm sure are doing their best to keep the boat afloat in spite of the cynisism we all often bring to the table. Yes it is "let's see how it shakes out" time but I for one wouldn't let Trump near my 401k much less trust his governing the good ol USA. Also keep in mind Mueller is not just racing around after Trump et al he's conducting an investigation on Russian election interference - something Trump and the Republican led Congress has done about as well as Helen Keller would.

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2 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

"The future of our country and of Western Civilization is at stake."  

Not even Bill Buckley could have outdone that one.

Hahaha! Yeah, maybe overstated but I for one am tired of having to leave my home because of wild fires.

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2 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

The Ruskies started the Paradise fire!

That one reminds me of General Ripper: "Mandrake, we cannot allow the communist conspiracy to contaminate our precious bodily fluids."

That one reminds me of global warming and Trump's role in exacerbating it.

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8 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

The Ruskies started the Paradise fire!

That one reminds me of General Ripper: "Mandrake, we cannot allow the communist conspiracy to contaminate our precious bodily fluids."

 

6 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

That one reminds me of global warming and Trump's role in exacerbating it.

Yeah! Tired of Trump's preversions... That's one Bat Guano for a Ripper.

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I found this forum a month or two ago to read up on General Charles Cabell. A few websites have claimed Charles and Earl were uncles of Robert Swan Mueller III (RSM3)

They are not. They are distant relatives of his wife, Ann Cabell Standish Mueller.

Although Charles & Earl are distantly related by marriage to RSM3, it turns out, RSM3 and Richard Bissell are first cousins once removed. (RSM3’s mother was Alice Truesdale. Alices Aunt was Marie Truesdale. Marie’s married Richard Bissell Sr.. Their son was Richard Bissell Jr.)

Is any of this relevant to this forum, or this thread? I kind of think so.

Mueller is not just some career Government Lawyer who through grit and hard work eventually became head of the FBI. He is as Eastern Establishment as the Dulles, or Bushes, or Forbes, or Bissells, or Cabells.

A branch or two of RSM3’s extended family even intertwine with the Rockefeller’s. (The Standish Clans petroleum & coal barge companies in Pittsburgh were once part of Standard Oil.)

RSM 1 & 2 are interesting in their own right. The grandfather (RSM1) seems to have run in the same St. Louis Society circles, circa WW1, as Herbert Walker.

RSM2, landed a nice Job with DuPont after graduating from Princeton in 1938 and his WW2 service. From what can be gleaned so far, he brokered rare metals for Dupont’s nascient War & Post war nuclear projects. Uranium seems to be in the Mueller blood. First the father after WW2 and then the son only a few years ago as a Uranium One Bagman.

RSM3 and his relatives travelled in some pretty elite family circles. It's quite the Rabbit hole once you dig a little and that’s all I’ve done.

Any of this is only relevant to JFK if you think Oswald did not act alone. It becomes more relevant if you have some level of suspicion the CIA provided the operational expertise, but not necessarily the ultimate authority to act.

Someone posted that the Mueller Investigation is like Watergate on Steroids. It is, but it is not Bob Woodward’s version of Watergate, it is the Len Colodny version.

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1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said:

I found this forum a month or two ago to read up on General Charles Cabell. A few websites have claimed Charles and Earl were uncles of Robert Swan Mueller III (RSM3)

They are not. They are distant relatives of his wife, Ann Cabell Standish Mueller.

Although Charles & Earl are distantly related by marriage to RSM3, it turns out, RSM3 and Richard Bissell are first cousins once removed. (RSM3’s mother was Alice Truesdale. Alices Aunt was Marie Truesdale. Marie’s married Richard Bissell Sr.. Their son was Richard Bissell Jr.)

Is any of this relevant to this forum, or this thread? I kind of think so.

Mueller is not just some career Government Lawyer who through grit and hard work eventually became head of the FBI. He is as Eastern Establishment as the Dulles, or Bushes, or Forbes, or Bissells, or Cabells.

A branch or two of RSM3’s extended family even intertwine with the Rockefeller’s. (The Standish Clans petroleum & coal barge companies in Pittsburgh were once part of Standard Oil.)

RSM 1 & 2 are interesting in their own right. The grandfather (RSM1) seems to have run in the same St. Louis Society circles, circa WW1, as Herbert Walker.

RSM2, landed a nice Job with DuPont after graduating from Princeton in 1938 and his WW2 service. From what can be gleaned so far, he brokered rare metals for Dupont’s nascient War & Post war nuclear projects. Uranium seems to be in the Mueller blood. First the father after WW2 and then the son only a few years ago as a Uranium One Bagman.

RSM3 and his relatives travelled in some pretty elite family circles. It's quite the Rabbit hole once you dig a little and that’s all I’ve done.

Any of this is only relevant to JFK if you think Oswald did not act alone. It becomes more relevant if you have some level of suspicion the CIA provided the operational expertise, but not necessarily the ultimate authority to act.

Someone posted that the Mueller Investigation is like Watergate on Steroids. It is, but it is not Bob Woodward’s version of Watergate, it is the Len Colodny version.

That's interesting for sure but it's hard for me to rope Mueller into anything more than what he appears to be. Any bio of me is much more suspicious: close association with famous "America First"figures. Grandfather operated super top-secret ONI radio intercept station and intercepted Pearl Harbor Japanese attack messages. Naval Intel liason to Chiang Kai Chek. Later became originating Naval legat to AFSA and NSA. Served with and followed Louis Tordella (longest serving Deputy Director of NSA) to Skaggs Island secret Soviet intercept and language school. Father was AF Inteligence etc etc etc. What I actually am is a forgetful old man who had to cheat to graduate High School with a D average. The poster you referred to was the Watergate burglers first attorney so he has some cred when it comes to comparing the two... BTW kudos for getting the thread back to forum relevance haha.

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1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said:

I found this forum a month or two ago to read up on General Charles Cabell. A few websites have claimed Charles and Earl were uncles of Robert Swan Mueller III (RSM3)

They are not. They are distant relatives of his wife, Ann Cabell Standish Mueller.

Although Charles & Earl are distantly related by marriage to RSM3, it turns out, RSM3 and Richard Bissell are first cousins once removed. (RSM3’s mother was Alice Truesdale. Alices Aunt was Marie Truesdale. Marie’s married Richard Bissell Sr.. Their son was Richard Bissell Jr.)

Is any of this relevant to this forum, or this thread? I kind of think so.

Mueller is not just some career Government Lawyer who through grit and hard work eventually became head of the FBI. He is as Eastern Establishment as the Dulles, or Bushes, or Forbes, or Bissells, or Cabells.

A branch or two of RSM3’s extended family even intertwine with the Rockefeller’s. (The Standish Clans petroleum & coal barge companies in Pittsburgh were once part of Standard Oil.)

RSM 1 & 2 are interesting in their own right. The grandfather (RSM1) seems to have run in the same St. Louis Society circles, circa WW1, as Herbert Walker.

RSM2, landed a nice Job with DuPont after graduating from Princeton in 1938 and his WW2 service. From what can be gleaned so far, he brokered rare metals for Dupont’s nascient War & Post war nuclear projects. Uranium seems to be in the Mueller blood. First the father after WW2 and then the son only a few years ago as a Uranium One Bagman.

RSM3 and his relatives travelled in some pretty elite family circles. It's quite the Rabbit hole once you dig a little and that’s all I’ve done.

Any of this is only relevant to JFK if you think Oswald did not act alone. It becomes more relevant if you have some level of suspicion the CIA provided the operational expertise, but not necessarily the ultimate authority to act.

Someone posted that the Mueller Investigation is like Watergate on Steroids. It is, but it is not Bob Woodward’s version of Watergate, it is the Len Colodny version.

Guilt by association much, Robert?

First cousin once removed from Bissell and that convicts Mueller of being a life-long CIA man under law enforcement colors?

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10 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

Guilt by association much, Robert?

First cousin once removed from Bissell and that convicts Mueller of being a life-long CIA man under law enforcement colors?

Not necessarily guilt by association. Just interesting with respect to some of the theories I have seen posted here or read elsewhere about who ultimately provided the authority for the assassin to pull the trigger on November 22, 1963. 

The ultimate authority may well have come from some Mob bosses or some rogue mid-level CIA operatives. If that's the case, then Oswald's one or two degree separation from the Forbes family is at best an interesting coincidence.

Oswald's association with Clay Shaw is also then an interesting coincidence in the context of Oswald being a poor kid from New Orleans, who would never in a million years have even a remote connection to Eastern Establishment families. Nevertheless, despite Oswald's unrefined pedigree, he is only separated by one degree, via Clay Shaw, from Permindex. Whatever Permindex was used for, Ferenc Nagy seemed to attract the attention of the Euro elite (Seligman) some Italian Royalty (for whatever that is worth) and David Rockefeller. (David modeled the NYC WTC off the Rome CMC, apparently.) In any event, Oswald's close associates in his final year, seemed to know some important people in high places, not to mention the George de Mohrenschildt connections.

As noted, Mueller is not necessarily guilty by association, nevertheless, pointing out the relation between Mueller and Bissell seems to raise a few eyebrows among those that know who Bissell was, even if they prefer to see Trump go sooner rather than waiting for the end of his scheduled term. To that end, like the JFK assassination, and to a lesser extent Watergate, the evidence for a conspiracy to deliberately remove a President from office before his term ends, becomes more apparent from the efforts to cover-up the conspiracy, versus the actual forensic evidence left at the crime scene. (ie. Why does it take 55 years to release documents if Oswald was just a lone nut? Similarly how do you get supposedly independent media types to rarely ask the types of questions the Researchers on this Forum have been asking for years?)

If the actual crime does not seem all that coordinated from a high level, I doubt many people on this forum would be here if they did not think the subsequent cover-ups has some level of coordination. In my opinion, the coordination has probably required a lot of financial resources, threats, deaths, and compromises. The infrastructure for the coordination efforts and resources are still in place, 55 years after the crime.

If the Mainstream Media were asking the types of questions JFK researchers are still asking, Mueller’s efforts with respect to Trump would be less suspect. Still, no one in the MSM has ever mentioned the Mueller pedigree, even if it is just a curiosity. Mueller himself may well be the well intentioned public servant the media portrays. I would believe that more if there was an MSM effort to dig a little deeper into the characters that were involved in procuring the “Steele” dossier, those that have been indicted, and those that are on his staff.

One would think the name Stefan Halper would throw up some red flags. The guy is CIA all the way. He was knee deep in Iran/Contra and the October Surprise (1980 edition.) A bio of his father in law Ray Cline (CIA) can be found on Spartacus. (One of the characters in The Manchurian Candidate is supposed to be Ray Cline.) Since I am mostly convinced the MSM has played an important part in the JFK assassination, and are still doing so to this day, it is not much of a stretch for to believe the filters they continue to apply up to the present, for a murder that occurred 55 years ago, remain available for other information the public is not supposed to know.

Pointing out that Stefan Halper has been involved in CIA/Bush Skullduggery does not advance the MSM’s narrative that Mueller is a good guy, and it may even cause a greater percentage of the public to wonder if his pursuit of Trump is because he is looking out for the best interests of US citizens, but rather because he is looking out for a narrower sliver of the populace consisting of his friends, family and their business interests.

The organizational and financial infrastructure that supported the JFK cover-up is still in place and it seems to be bigger than ever.

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14 hours ago, Bob Ness said:

That's interesting for sure but it's hard for me to rope Mueller into anything more than what he appears to be. Any bio of me is much more suspicious: close association with famous "America First"figures. Grandfather operated super top-secret ONI radio intercept station and intercepted Pearl Harbor Japanese attack messages. Naval Intel liason to Chiang Kai Chek. Later became originating Naval legat to AFSA and NSA. Served with and followed Louis Tordella (longest serving Deputy Director of NSA) to Skaggs Island secret Soviet intercept and language school. Father was AF Inteligence etc etc etc. What I actually am is a forgetful old man who had to cheat to graduate High School with a D average. The poster you referred to was the Watergate burglers first attorney so he has some cred when it comes to comparing the two... BTW kudos for getting the thread back to forum relevance haha.

Yes, Mr. Caddy. I have heard some of his interviews, including the UFO ones. I think the 11/30/2017 show Mr. Caddy did on Dark Journalist about E. Howard Hunt and how JFK was killed because he wanted to open the UFO files is the one I caught. 

The Fall of 2017 was a big time for all sorts of Disclosures. The bulk of the JFK files, starting 10/26/2017, and final one for the year on 12/15/2017. 

Then the NY Times Pentagon UFO disclosures on 12/16/2017.

Anyway, here are a bunch of Mueller related family trees.

Family Trees & Associated Connections of Robert Swan Mueller III.

Mueller / Bissell - https://imgur.com/gallery/1K2NegI 
Mueller / Standish Branch - https://imgur.com/gallery/nfjpIw6
Mueller / Standish Branch – Tree & Standard Oil Affiliations - https://imgur.com/gallery/cQuRxBl
Mueller / Swan / Freeman – Expanded Tree - https://imgur.com/gallery/qVMEDyk
Mueller / Swan – Multi Generation (Swans) - https://imgur.com/gallery/0afnLEX
Mueller / Cabell (St. Louis) to Cabell (Texas) – https://imgur.com/gallery/lfTV6MS
Texas Cabell Brother Tree – Ben Death Note (March ’64) - https://imgur.com/gallery/2ROF1C8

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Right on Robert! I think the kicker for me is when we found out through DNA sampling that Dick Cheney and Obama were related!
So then Obama appoints Hillary!!. All I can say is, they may think they're "deep" but you have to get up pretty early in the morning to fool us. Right Jim, Jeff?
 
Then take it further and look how they're pulling the wool over everyone's eyes  Mueller's trying to destroy a Republican President who has undying support of his party. So now the radical Democrats are taking over the Banking committee. That Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has actually said she wants to address "income inequality". They actually want to tax us at 70%! The Socialists are trying to take our money from us, Robert!  You're right, that Mueller is one devious as-h-le!
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