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Why do you suppose he met with Killimnick on Aug. 2 to discuss private polling data if it were not to collude? Whether he's charged with that offense or not. I don't believe Al Capone went to jail for murder or anything like it. Are you suggesting he was innocent of those allegations because he wasn't charged with them? Seems like you are.

I am not suggesting Manafort is innocent in the least.

Go back to the JFK Assassination. Is it difficult to imagine that maybe not everyone in his administration was not loyal? How about the guy he picked to be Vice President? How about other LBJ loyalists in the White House? Can you imagine a scenario where maybe some guys in the Secret Service had other motivations? What if they were compromised? What if Hoover had nothing to do with the Assassination, but someone reminded him of those dirty pictures? Was Angleton, or Dulles, or Bissell, or Bush, or Symington, above that?

Go back to the Nixon Administration. How loyal was John Dean? If he was up to his neck in debt and call girl rings, would loyalty even matter. Was it a third rate burglary or something else?  How come it is rarely mentioned that Bob Woodward worked in the White House as an ONI staffer? Should everything the MSM has told us about Watergate be accepted at face value?

 If you really want to know, I would read this article (where the quote is from.) It's long and tedious and filled with a lot of Russian Names, but worth a read nonetheless. 

"It’s also exactly why John Brennan arranged, through cutouts and blinds, to get George Papadopoulos, Carter Page, and Paul Manafort into high-profile positions inside the Trump campaign. Manafort was already a marked target before the first day he walked in there, and Brennan knew it"

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A big part of the reason his texts have not been reported on much is because they largely center on Manafort doing things like having groups of black men gang bang his wife while he watched. It's kind of a delicate topic for mainstream discussion.

According to the "Russian Dossier", Trump likes to have prostitutes pee on him. How come that is not too delicate for a mainstream discussion? The whole world knows about pee & prostitutes, but gang bangs are too delicate for the MSM. Alternatively, gang bangs don't paint the picture the MSM wants us all to see, but peeing prostitutes does.

If you are capable of appreciating the many layers of the JFK Conspiracy, acknowledge the use of disinfo, misdirection, the existence of unwitting patsy's, then you can appreciate that maybe the official MSM narrative about Trump, Russian Dossiers, Collusions and Mueller Investigations is not a complete picture. Judging by what you have said so far, I would say you understand about 5% of the real story. Incredibly, if you can get above 30%, your understanding of the JFK conspiracy will also increase.   

 

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If what you say is the case, then why do they dissemble, conceal and not tell the truth about everything and try to conceal every single contact with Russians. I understand enough about JFK to know not to believe the people who have demonstrably not told the truth. Same applies here.

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13 minutes ago, Andrew Prutsok said:

If what you say is the case, then why do they dissemble, conceal and not tell the truth about everything and try to conceal every single contact with Russians. I understand enough about JFK to know not to believe the people who have demonstrably not told the truth. Same applies here.

Like this?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/donald-trumps-jrs-email-exchange/533244/

Give us an example.

What is there to conceal? Present some evidence. Elaborate.

Tell us the difference between peeing prostitutes and gang bangs while you are at it.

 

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2 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

Like this?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/donald-trumps-jrs-email-exchange/533244/

Give us an example.

What is there to conceal? Present some evidence. Elaborate.

Tell us the difference between peeing prostitutes and gang bangs while you are at it.

 

Trump allegedly paid the prostitutes to golden shower the bed the Obamas slept on.

Trump's a germophobe, which is why he finds the act so exciting (allegedly).

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9 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:

Is the following summary correct on the charges Manafort was convicted of?  Its from USA Today.

 

WASHINGTON – A jury convicted Paul Manafort – Donald Trump's former campaign chairman – on eight counts of bank and tax fraud Tuesday.

That should be right. I think he is looking at the possibility of additional convictions (or time) for having lied to the Special Prosecutor. (As opposed to being "Less Than Candid", which is a special non-criminal act that only senior DOJ an FBI officials can commit.)

Tangentially related, have you ever run across the "Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions."

Manafort was on the board at one point, although it is not mentioned on his Wikipedia page.

Lots of interesting people over the years. Thomas Mann, his wife  Elisabeth Mann-Borgese, Andrew Therriault, Rexford Tugwell, Paul Newman etc.

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1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said:

How are the bank and tax fraud charges related to Russia Gate?

Aren't they related to his foreign country lobbying?

They are not related to Russia Gate. They are from Manaforts work with The Podesta Group, which no longer exists, because of The Podesta Groups work with Manafort.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/02/18/no-one-mentions-that-the-russian-trail-leads-to-democratic-lobbyists/#185b3813991a

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I just looked that up about Manafort and Podesta, and it looks like its true.

Podesta tried to say that he did not know what Manfort and Gates were up to.

Was that his "get out an indictment" card before he closed down the place?

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5 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

I just looked that up about Manafort and Podesta, and it looks like its true.

Podesta tried to say that he did not know what Manfort and Gates were up to.

Was that his "get out an indictment" card before he closed down the place?

Their is a line of thought that says Mueller went after Manafort because, in addition to taking out Trump (impeachment or Nixon style) it allowed him to hand out "Immunity Cards" to friends and family.

Because the Podesta Group was in the same line of work as Manafort (basically business partners) Mueller could give Tony Podesta (etc.) immunity from the same crimes in exchange for testimony against Podesta.

I would say handing out immunity deals was Mueller's primary objective roughly between Nov/Dec 2017 and April 2018. To be more precise, it's likely Mueller checked out somewhere in that time frame and he handed the day-to-day to his top deputy Andrew Weissmann (Glowing LA Times Article) (Not Glowing Daily Caller Article.)

Roughly from April 2018 to October 2018 Mueller was just trying to get Trump to fire him. (The "Russia Gate" investigation was going no where, so Mueller/Deep State allies figured if they could get Trump to fire Mueller, they would have a reason to impeach Trump; of course knowing that the MSM would lead the charge.)

This scene from "A Bronx Tale" sums up the Trump/Mueller situation nicely. The guys in the jean jackets is Team Mueller.

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10 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

They are not related to Russia Gate. They are from Manaforts work with The Podesta Group, which no longer exists, because of The Podesta Groups work with Manafort.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/02/18/no-one-mentions-that-the-russian-trail-leads-to-democratic-lobbyists/#185b3813991a

OK, let’s hear you guys go on about how Capone was set up and really innocent because he wasn’t charged with bootlegging, gambling, prostitution, money laundering and murder (Damn,  his case really was comparable to the president’s), and was merely convicted of process crimes.

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It’s obvious to anyone with eyes to see that the Trump organization has been little more than a Russian money-laundering operation for more than two decades. At a time when every casino in the world was making record profits, Trump casinos lost money; most of his real estate sales were to Russians, he pays off his hookers to keep quiet, threatens people with violence to stay quiet, uses his sham charity foundation to buy portraits of himself and to pay for his son’s Boy Scout uniform and on and on, yet you guys find it preposterous that he would collude with a foreign country to swing the election. 

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18 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

Like this?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/donald-trumps-jrs-email-exchange/533244/

Give us an example.

What is there to conceal? Present some evidence. Elaborate.

Tell us the difference between peeing prostitutes and gang bangs while you are at it.

 

How many have been convicted of lying to Mueller? Wouldn't be surprised to see Congress pursue perjury charges as well. By the Washington Post's count, Trump has uttered over 8,000 public lies in 2 years in office. 

 

Incidentally, do you think all of the hacks on Hillary's campaign in September of 2016 which ultimately gave the Russians her internal polling data, were leaked as well?

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