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Attorney's file on Roger Stone, LaRouche and Russia influencing the 2016 presidential election


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So what's up with Stone lately?  He's been out the news for a while in the msm at least to my knowledge.  If you want to get into politics otherwise I've a question.  Does anyone know where I can get a bumper sticker of this image?

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Guest Dale Thorn
7 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Yes they have. And they agree with me. Just because communism shares some characteristics with socialism doesn't make them the same. Do you think it was the socialist aspect of communism that led to the 150 million deaths? Of course it wasn't. It was because the communists had absolute power and killing was their means of maintaining that power.

 

I don't agree with you, because you're wrong.

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6 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

That's just what I was thinking. He spews nonsense. And then he cannot defend it, so he deflects criticism and moves on to something else.

 

You have to grow up and mature to understand me. I don't converse with children.

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Traitor-in-Chief Drumpf is out to make Russia Great Again.

Putin says Russia will supply soy beans, poultry meat to China

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-meat-china-putin-idUSKCN1NX1C4?fbclid=IwAR0tUAzL6v3dfh9zSo9pv4vwJY_tNNGCL8PAfuDHjSMBOHZaP2kOgU5ZjWs

MOSCOW (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that Russia would supply soy beans and poultry meat to China and that the United States had effectively given up on that market.

Putin was speaking at the Russia Calling annual investment forum.

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Trying to tell a Trumpster of Trump's corruption is met with the same sort of astonishment as a 9 year old boy first being told professional wrestling is fake.

Now we have some guy off the cyber street who couldn't get an audience anywhere else on a mission from God (himself, I suspect) invoking Jesus who says Trump is "saintly"?????. Even the silliest of the Trump supporters or apologists here would never say that.
Notice the picture he chose for himself, not looking into the camera at us but he looks absolutely glued to  his computer, that is before he decided that was revealing too much and got obscure with us.
 

Paul said:

Dale Thorn can’t be serious. He’s just jerking everyone’s chain. Best to ignore.

Actually these people can be serious Paul, They get algoed into a box, start  visiting every conspiracy website that reinforces their fears and paranoia to the point that they become comfortable with their isolation and time will tell if they can get help, (which typically  will be resisted as it's seen as some tool of "deep state" mind control) or ever really come back. Its a disease that has not been adequately exposed as of yet, but you're prescription is right.

It's not or problem.

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There are 2 choices for the Democrats Choice 1, the Nancy Pelosi solution, continue with investigations that she hopes will eventually bleed Trump dry, and emphasize her piecemeal Health Care solutions, that are really popular topics with the voting populace or  Choice 2, to go after Trump, and see if that can lead to taking some action. Some argue that's exactly what Trump wants and Trump will be able to use that as being a victim of a witch hunt and will draw the populace to his side.
But  I really think that people have pretty  much solidified into their relative tribes and there's simply more people in the non Trump tribe.  I don't accept that a failed impeachment attempt will necessarily backfire on the Democrats at all.
 
I would say people realize there are many faces in the political parties, particularly with the Democrats. They should let their potential candidates stake out a wide range of political issues, some can  see if they can make points taking a stand against Trump's obvious corruption. Some can be for hard core impeachment where they hope in the future their courageous stand will be rewarded just as Obama had the advantage over HC in 2008 because he voted against the War in Iraq.  Let them find their niches, if it's not about Trump and it's about Health Care or Green energy and combating climate change, or taking the money out and of politics and kicking the corporation's lawyers' out from dictating legislation verbatim  to our legislators. It's all good exposure. The only serious mistake will come from picking  the wrong candidate.
 
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11 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:
There are 2 choices for the Democrats Choice 1, the Nancy Pelosi solution, continue with investigations that she hopes will eventually bleed Trump dry, and emphasize her piecemeal Health Care solutions, that are really popular topics with the voting populace or  Choice 2, to go after Trump, and see if that can lead to taking some action. Some argue that's exactly what Trump wants and Trump will be able to use that as being a victim of a witch hunt and will draw the populace to his side.
But  I really think that people have pretty  much solidified into their relative tribes and there's simply more people in the non Trump tribe.  I don't accept that a failed impeachment attempt will necessarily backfire on the Democrats at all.

Couldn't agree more, Kirk.  The GOP took a momentary hit in the '98 mid-terms prior to impeaching Clinton, but Clinton's approval ratings dropped significantly by the end of the trial. 

Clinton governed over a period of relative peace and prosperity but the scandal suppressed the Dem vote in 2000.

Donald Trump committed impeachable crimes, period.  Do your job, Nancy.

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On 5/30/2019 at 10:46 PM, Kirk Gallaway said:

.... Obama had the advantage over HC in 2008 because he voted against the War in Iraq

 

Just curious Kirk....

Okay, maybe I'm a dope. But how could Obama vote against the War in Iraq given that he wasn't a U.S. senator till a couple years later?

 

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No you're right Sandy , I'm the dope. Obama actually lost a race for  the House  in 2000. But politicians make public statements that they are later held to. ----From Wikipedia.

Obama was an early opponent of the George W. Bush administration's 2003 invasion of Iraq.[126] On October 2, 2002, the day President Bush and Congress agreed on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War,[127] Obama addressed the first high-profile Chicago anti-Iraq War rally,[128] and spoke out against the war.[129] He addressed another anti-war rally in March 2003 and told the crowd that "it's not too late" to stop the war.[130]

I kinda eat up this stuff Sandy, you probably aren't as interested (though you were right!).The Senate voted 77 to 23 for Bush's War. Of that the Republicans voted 48 to 1!  The Democrats also voted for it. 29-21. Among the Democrats who voted for it was Biden, Hillary Clinton, Feinstien and Shumer.

In the House,  the Republicans voted for it, 215-6! The Democrats voted against it 126 -82.  The current Democrat notables who voted against it are Pelosi,  Bernie Sanders and Nadler.

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I'm not in the country but I saw the Mueller statement.He appeared very nervous to me as if the weight of the world was on his shoulders, and he just doesn't want to be a pivotal figure.
 
Hey, Sorry to interrupt your retirement dude! Yes, you are a pivotal figure and you do have the weight of the world on your shoulders. What the hell did you think was going to happen when you took the job? You should have come out 6 weeks ago.  And if Congress doesn't ultimately force you to testify, you all will be held in contempt of our citizenry.
 
I expect in his testimony he will stay as strictly to script as possible, reiterating everything from his report and decline to make any personal judgment whatsoever. And I expect the Democrats chicken out, out of some sort of compassion for the situation he finds himself. Still there's no way it won't be very damaging to Trump. And they'll hope that that will be enough to make their decisions easier.
 
 

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11 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

No you're right Sandy , I'm the dope. Obama actually lost a race for  the House  in 2000. But politicians make public statements that they are later held to. ----From Wikipedia.

Obama was an early opponent of the George W. Bush administration's 2003 invasion of Iraq.[126] On October 2, 2002, the day President Bush and Congress agreed on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War,[127] Obama addressed the first high-profile Chicago anti-Iraq War rally,[128] and spoke out against the war.[129] He addressed another anti-war rally in March 2003 and told the crowd that "it's not too late" to stop the war.[130]

I kinda eat up this stuff Sandy, you probably aren't as interested (though you were right!).The Senate voted 77 to 23 for Bush's War. Of that the Republicans voted 48 to 1!  The Democrats also voted for it. 29-21. Among the Democrats who voted for it was Biden, Hillary Clinton, Feinstien and Shumer.

In the House,  the Republicans voted for it, 215-6! The Democrats voted against it 126 -82.  The current Democrat notables who voted against it are Pelosi,  Bernie Sanders and Nadler.

Pelosi organized the Dem opposition in the House.

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22 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

I kinda eat up this stuff Sandy, you probably aren't as interested (though you were right!).


Yeah, you're right about my not being as interested as you. The only reason it struck me odd when you said Obama voted against the war is because my earliest recollection of  Obama was his convention speech, where he spoke of there being only one America, the United States of America. (What an awesome speech!) And I knew that was after the war had started.

I can't believe it's been 15 years since that speech... I remember it like it was last year.

 

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