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1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Quite the uncharacteristic post from Mr. Caddy.

I'm going to guess Mr. Weissmann ends up under the bus pretty soon.

 

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The Kavalec Memo Puts the Nail in the FBI's Coffin - (headline mine.)

John Solomon reported last week that,

"Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec’s written account of her Oct. 11, 2016, meeting with FBI informant Christopher Steele shows the Hillary Clinton campaign-funded British intelligence operative admitted that his research was political and facing an Election Day deadline."

Additional background and context about the Solomon article:

  • The meeting between Kavalec and Steele occurred 10 days before the FBI used the Steele Dossier to justify the securing of a FISA warrant to surveil Carter Page.
  • The meeting was an effort to "rinse" Steele through State Department channels (ie. allow the FBI to point to Kavalec's independent assessment of the veracity of Steele's statements and motivations prior to submitting the Carter Page FISA warrant applications (under oath) to the FISA Court.)
  • The partially redacted memo, attached in the article, is written proof Steele's action were politically motivated.
  • The memo is a second piece of evidence that the FBI knowingly submitted a tainted FISA application since Bruce Ohr had warned the FBI that the DOJ had misgivings about the veracity of Steele's statements.

Other and Subsequent Findings

  • Kavalec did not apparently believe Steele. (According to Dan Bongino, Kavalec's hand written notes show that she was likely checking Steeles statements during the actual meeting because she made notes that Cohen never visited Prague, and the Russian Consulate in Miami, mentioned by Steele, does not exist.)
  • The memo was not provided to the House last year.
  • The memo was retroactively classified by the-FBI. Director Wray is more than likely, in very deep **it.
  • The memo was not provided to the FBI Inspector General (Horowitz) who is conducting an investigation into FISA application misdeeds by the FBI.
    • Horowitz has already found 4 of the 5 (or 3 of 4) known FISA applications were submitted illegally.
    • This will make the FBI 5 for 5 (or 4 of 4.)

Reading Between the Lines

Aside from the evidence that shows that Steele was politically motivated and that the FBI lied to the FISA court, the mistakes and lies that Steele told Kavalec indicate that he was likely not the only author of the "Steele Dossier." That is, Steele can't seem to get his story straight because he is not the only author. This has been assumed for awhile as it is generally believed Nellie Ohr, under contract by Fusion GPS, wrote at least parts of the "Dossier."

Link to John Solomon Article.

 

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Anyone who did not capture the name of the journalist (the one doing most of the talking) it is David Corn of Mother Jones.

I am not saying David Corn is "hack", however;

....Corn later told the media that he gave parts of the junk dossier to James Baker after the election — this contradicts Baker’s testimony.

Baker’s lawyer cut off Jim Jordan when he asked Baker if he talked to David Corn about anything the FBI was working on, specifically the Steele dossier.

“I’m sorry, I’m going to cut — not let him answer these questions right now. You may or may not know, he’s been the subject of a leak investigation which is still — a criminal leak investigation that’s still active at the Justice Department...” Baker’s lawyer told Jim Jordan.

Baker told Rep. Jordan that his very good friend Dave Corn was “anxious” to get the fake dossier over to the FBI — when Jordan asked Baker if Corn told him where he got the dossier from he said he ‘couldn’t recall’ but that there was a 302 taken of his interview with the FBI about it... 

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Classic - Cut to Corn at 2:10 mark in the video posted

"...he had the intelligence pedigree that I had been told he had..."

So the FBI is willing to lie to the FISA Court, but MSNBC doesn't suspect the FBI might also lie to a half-wit reporter at Mother Jones. 

I do not know the date of the video Cliff posted. It may be older than some of the latest news and so does not reflect newer revelations.

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3 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

The Kavalec Memo Puts the Nail in the FBI's Coffin - (headline mine.)

John Solomon reported last week that,

"Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec’s written account of her Oct. 11, 2016, meeting with FBI informant Christopher Steele shows the Hillary Clinton campaign-funded British intelligence operative admitted that his research was political and facing an Election Day deadline."

Additional background and context about the Solomon article:

  • The meeting between Kavalec and Steele occurred 10 days before the FBI used the Steele Dossier to justify the securing of a FISA warrant to surveil Carter Page.
  • The meeting was an effort to "rinse" Steele through State Department channels (ie. allow the FBI to point to Kavalec's independent assessment of the veracity of Steele's statements and motivations prior to submitting the Carter Page FISA warrant applications (under oath) to the FISA Court.)
  • The partially redacted memo, attached in the article, is written proof Steele's action were politically motivated.
  • The memo is a second piece of evidence that the FBI knowingly submitted a tainted FISA application since Bruce Ohr had warned the FBI that the DOJ had misgivings about the veracity of Steele's statements.

Other and Subsequent Findings

  • Kavalec did not apparently believe Steele. (According to Dan Bongino, Kavalec's hand written notes show that she was likely checking Steeles statements during the actual meeting because she made notes that Cohen never visited Prague, and the Russian Consulate in Miami, mentioned by Steele, does not exist.)
  • The memo was not provided to the House last year.
  • The memo was retroactively classified by the-FBI. Director Wray is more than likely, in very deep **it.
  • The memo was not provided to the FBI Inspector General (Horowitz) who is conducting an investigation into FISA application misdeeds by the FBI.
    • Horowitz has already found 4 of the 5 (or 3 of 4) known FISA applications were submitted illegally.
    • This will make the FBI 5 for 5 (or 4 of 4.)

Reading Between the Lines

Aside from the evidence that shows that Steele was politically motivated and that the FBI lied to the FISA court, the mistakes and lies that Steele told Kavalec indicate that he was likely not the only author of the "Steele Dossier." That is, Steele can't seem to get his story straight because he is not the only author. This has been assumed for awhile as it is generally believed Nellie Ohr, under contract by Fusion GPS, wrote at least parts of the "Dossier."

Link to John Solomon Article.

 

Just a quick point here:  The Clinton campaign's action were politically motivated, NOT Steele's.  Steele's actions were FINANCIALLY motivated --he was paid to do a job.  He did that job, the FBI got his results and took it seriously-naturally-, and the rest is now history.

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This is pretty insightful as to what Mueller has done to shape his inquiry and still get negative results.

Do not talk to anyone who will give you info that does not fit, or give them a right to defend themselves.  Accept the HRC paradigm originally established in 2016.  And do not hire your own forensic experts. 

And even with all that, the results are still weak porridge.  Well, maybe Roger Stone will be a geyser?

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/05/14/the-real-mueller-gate-scandal/

 

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Stone’s legal filing on Friday was interesting: challenging the premise and legality of the search warrant used against him last January. The search warrant apparently implied Stone played an important role in a conspiracy run through Manafort using Russian state assets to hack and steal DNC emails, facilitate their delivery to Wikileaks, and coordinate their publication to exert maximum damage. Stone argues this narrative is false, and knowingly false on the part of the prosecution.

But even if Stone gets the search warrant retroactively squashed, it doesn’t help him evade his indictments because the evidence for his misstatements had already been obtained by other means.

The purpose of Stone’s legal filling appears to be less about his legal problems and more a challenge to Mueller’s overarching narrative in the hack vs leak controversy,  forcing the prosecution to lay out the evidence. If it goes through, this should help establish the extent to which the Crowdstrike forensics influenced or determined the prosecution’s premise. Close readings of the Mueller Report have convinced some people that the Crowdstrike data is almost the whole of the evidence.

Hack vs leak remains the central controversy. The irregularity of the FBI not examining DNC servers  and Mueller’s not interviewing key persons invites skepticism.

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20 minutes ago, Jeff Carter said:

Hack vs leak remains the central controversy. The irregularity of the FBI not examining DNC servers  and Mueller’s not interviewing key persons invites skepticism.

If the answer is "leak", and that is what all of the evidence points to, (and I would call the irregularity of the FBI not examining the DNC servers part of the evidence) then the question becomes, who was the leak?

Before I am accused of pushing a conspiracy theory involving a certain DNC employee who may have been murdered three years ago this upcoming July 10, there are two other leak suspects, that at least on the surface, do not appear to have traveled in the same circles as each other, including the guy last seen alive July 10, 2016.

No one on Mueller's team wants to know the answer to the question, who was the leak?

2 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

This is pretty insightful as to what Mueller has done to leg then his inquiry and still get negative results.

There was no way in hell that Mueller was ever going to go to the mat for some hair-brained scheme cooked up by HRC and her campaign, Obama and his advisors, Comey and the rest of the FBI, and probably least of all, Brennan at the CIA.

“Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris”, -Colin Powell (leaked email)

If there was some substance to Russiagate, and no doubt Mueller was told there was substance when he signed on, he probably would have been effective.

The fact that he did stay on, after suffering the fools mentioned, means there is a lot more going on.

HRC and her minions answer to Mueller and his cronies.

This is much bigger than Rs & Ds or illegal FISA warrants.

 

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Trump now  feels free to complete his treasonous sellout of America so that the  Great Three --  he, Russia's Putin and China's Xi --  can rule the world through interlocking dictatorships.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-latest-putin-says-trump-call-implied-restored-ties/ar-AABljNF?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UE07DHP

From the article: President Trump has shown far less appetite to confront Russia. He has in fact repeatedly questioned whether Russia is an enemy at all. By accounts from within his own administration, Trump’s reluctance to confront the Russia threat is driven in part by his perception that acknowledging the 2016 interference would diminish his victory. Special Counsel Robert Mueller may have absolved Trump of an explicit conspiracy with Russia. But Trump’s continued reluctance to identify and address the Russia threat may be just as damaging to the U.S. and just as helpful to Russia—and the possibility that political intrigue will leave America paralyzed suits the architects of Russia’s shadow war just fine.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/jim-sciutto-kremlin-waging-new-kind-war/589387/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_term=2019-05-14T10%3A00%3A39&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR14VEU6f02pmFGkpd7_dwi8HBBZv5fan8MLJ8CIxJ35Z_GtaeDKG8CrziM&fbclid=IwAR3lL1Ss3YbryJNN0CC3xrw7E0y4g1-wL6BJ97GfFTOUEdbBi5DnCQqSj10

 

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7 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

Anyone who did not capture the name of the journalist (the one doing most of the talking) it is David Corn of Mother Jones.

I am not saying David Corn is "hack", however;

....Corn later told the media that he gave parts of the junk dossier to James Baker after the election — this contradicts Baker’s testimony.

Baker’s lawyer cut off Jim Jordan when he asked Baker if he talked to David Corn about anything the FBI was working on, specifically the Steele dossier.

“I’m sorry, I’m going to cut — not let him answer these questions right now. You may or may not know, he’s been the subject of a leak investigation which is still — a criminal leak investigation that’s still active at the Justice Department...” Baker’s lawyer told Jim Jordan.

Baker told Rep. Jordan that his very good friend Dave Corn was “anxious” to get the fake dossier over to the FBI — when Jordan asked Baker if Corn told him where he got the dossier from he said he ‘couldn’t recall’ but that there was a 302 taken of his interview with the FBI about it... 

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Classic - Cut to Corn at 2:10 mark in the video posted

"...he had the intelligence pedigree that I had been told he had..."

So the FBI is willing to lie to the FISA Court, but MSNBC doesn't suspect the FBI might also lie to a half-wit reporter at Mother Jones. 

I do not know the date of the video Cliff posted. It may be older than some of the latest news and so does not reflect newer revelations.

12/08/17.

You're missing the larger point, Robert ol' buddy, my hardcore punk rock listenin' pro football watchin' friend.

The Russia-DNC-hack story made the cable news cycle twice -- June 14/15 and July 24/25. 

On October 7 the BIG Russia-DNC-hack story -- the report of the Obama Administration -- was buried by the pussy grabbin' tape and Podesta Wikileaks.  It never made it into the news cycle.

On Oct. 31 David Corn's story about the Steele Dossier was buried under coverage of Hillary's e-mails -- it never made the news cycle.

But according to Wheeler/Carter/DiEugenio the FBI framed Trump in order to prevent him from taking the White House.

As always, my fine Trumpster friends can't cognitively acknowledge the fact that the FBI weighed in decisively against Clinton.

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2 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Trump now  feels free to complete his treasonous sellout of America so that the  Great Three --  he, Russia's Putin and China's Xi --  can rule the world through interlocking dictatorships.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-latest-putin-says-trump-call-implied-restored-ties/ar-AABljNF?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UE07DHP

From the article: President Trump has shown far less appetite to confront Russia. He has in fact repeatedly questioned whether Russia is an enemy at all. By accounts from within his own administration, Trump’s reluctance to confront the Russia threat is driven in part by his perception that acknowledging the 2016 interference would diminish his victory. Special Counsel Robert Mueller may have absolved Trump of an explicit conspiracy with Russia. But Trump’s continued reluctance to identify and address the Russia threat may be just as damaging to the U.S. and just as helpful to Russia—and the possibility that political intrigue will leave America paralyzed suits the architects of Russia’s shadow war just fine.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/jim-sciutto-kremlin-waging-new-kind-war/589387/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_medium=social&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_term=2019-05-14T10%3A00%3A39&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR14VEU6f02pmFGkpd7_dwi8HBBZv5fan8MLJ8CIxJ35Z_GtaeDKG8CrziM&fbclid=IwAR3lL1Ss3YbryJNN0CC3xrw7E0y4g1-wL6BJ97GfFTOUEdbBi5DnCQqSj10

 

I know even those that suspicious of the whole "Russiagate" debacle are reluctant to compare Kennedy to Trump.

I am not comparing Kennedy to Trump in this post and neither does the article linked below.

Note the article is from 2013 and has nothing to do with Trump, only JFK & Russia.

I am posting because the article Mr. Caddy posted sounds pretty familiar.

 

...At that time I had no idea Kennedy had taken that leap secretly with Khrushchev while also pledging publicly never to invade Cuba, which infuriated his Joint Chiefs of Staff....

...Robert F. Kennedy, the attorney general, had met secretly on Oct. 27, 1962, with the Soviet ambassador, Anatoly F. Dobrynin, in Washington, warning that the U.S. president was losing control to his generals and needed the Soviets’ help. When Khrushchev received Kennedy’s plea in Moscow, he turned to his foreign minister, Andrei A. Gromyko, and said, “We have to let Kennedy know that we want to help him.” Khrushchev hesitated at the thought of helping his enemy, but repeated: “Yes, help. We now have a common cause, to save the world from those pushing us toward war.”...

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2 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

You're missing the larger point, Robert ol' buddy, my hardcore punk rock listenin' pro football watchin' friend.

Please, my Jets are hardly a professional football team.

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