James DiEugenio Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Bart K took a try at this, but this is a better translation, much easier to understand, from two people fluent in Italian and English: Al Rossi and Paz Marverde. I had a special interest in this material about the murky Italian business organization called the Centro Mondiale Commerciale, and sometimes termed Permindex. Way back in the early nineties, when I was working on the first edition of Destiny Betrayed, I was puzzled by an entry in Clay Shaw's address book to a Princess Marcella Borghese. The Borghese family was a rather infamous rightwing Italian klan who attempted a coup in 1970, reportedly with the help of commando Otto Skorzeny and his Paladin group. In all of our wonderful research community at that time, only Mae Brussel noted the importance of that detail. Everyone else sort of ignored it. But it was important since, to use one example, as Jim Lesar later discovered through declassified cables, the CIA had secretly hired Skorzeny previously to overthrow Lumumba in the Congo.My thought was: why would someone who declared himself a Wilson-Roosevelt-Kennedy liberal, as Shaw did, be associating with the Borghese family? I sensed this was part of a cover up around Shaw to hide who he really was. Another part of the lie was his alleged association with CMC. Shaw said he was called to Rome by them after the fact, to give some advice since he ran the ITM in New Orleans. Yet, I uncovered an internal Time-Life document which contradicted this. It said that from their reporting, Shaw was sent to Italy BEFORE the CMC was announced, to help organize it in advance after it was ejected from Switzerland. Again, why lie about something like that? The discoveries coming out of Canada from the Bloomfield archives, and Metta's work, now seem to expose the worst about all this. In fact, the Bloomfield family wants the Montreal archives shut down. It seems to me that CMC was a part of the resistance to, and reversal of, JFK's policy in Italy as described by David Talbot in his book The Devil's Chessboard. On the advice of Schlesinger, Kennedy visited Italy in 1963 and pushed a policy which, in English was called "the opening". This meant that the socialists would be brought into the Christian Democratic Party. Both Harvey and Angleton were dead set against this. As had been Eisenhower and was Henry Luce. Yet Kennedy openly advocated it in his trip there in 1963. Needless to say after Kennedy's death this was subverted. (See Talbot, Chapter 17) Anyway, this provides a background to this fine translation by Mr. Rossi and Ms Marverde of Metta's interesting work:https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0...hYakJfbW81TjVV Edited October 25, 2017 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Great - thanks for posting this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Sawtelle Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Jim Researchers, IMO, shouldn't expect too much from the release of the documents tomorrow. I doubt there will be a smoking gun or information to connect the dots to determine the truth. These documents from Metta might prove fruitfull if reseachers can trace the money from Trujillo to the Italian bank to the plotters in the United States. Undoubtedly we won't find a paper trail regarding the transfer of the money, no checks, no wire transfer, etc. My best guess is the money was transferred from Italy to the US in cash by courier. This may give researchers a starting point to proceed with an investigation. Sutherland's character in the movie "JFK" keeps ringing in my ears ... follow the money. Metta's info may prove extremely valuable in getting to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Thanks Paul and George. I agree that its really fascinating stuff. And boy does it show how widespread was the opposition to Kennedy's policies. The thing is I am not even sure that Kennedy knew Harvey was stationed in Italy at the time. It was really RFK who demanded Harvey be terminated, but Helms managed to ship him out of the country instead. And we know that both Angleton and Shaw considered Italy their second countries. So they were not going to let the leftists take over because of that dang liberal Kennedy. What happened in Italy after with the Red Brigades and Andreotti and the train station bombing etc was really some stark drama. And its possible to trace it back to Clay Shaw's visit there to form Permindex. BTW, I guess I am breaking into the MSM. NPR wants to talk to me. Edited October 25, 2017 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger DeLaria Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: Thanks Paul and George. I agree that its really fascinating stuff. And boy does it show how widespread was the opposition to Kennedy's policies. The thing is I am not even sure that Kennedy knew Harvey was stationed in Italy at the time. It was really RFK who demanded Harvey be terminated, but Helms managed to ship him out of the country instead. And we know that both Angleton and Shaw considered Italy their second countries. So they were not going to let the leftists take over because of that dang liberal Kennedy. What happened in Italy after with the Red Brigades and Andreotti and the train stain bombing etc was really some stark drama. And its possible to trace it back to Clay Shaw's visit there to form Permindex. BTW, I guess I am breaking into the MSM. NPR wants to talk to me. That's good to hear, Jim. NPR reaches alot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 I just did one this morning via Skype in Moscow. She was really interested and it went on longer than scheduled. Especially when I told her that in the July release, its as revealed that Nikita K thought the Warren Report was a pile of baloney.l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I see in the article a mention of the CIA WUBRINY operation which takes place in the hotel Knickerbocker in 1963 between DeMohrenschildt and WUBRINY 1 and 2. 1 has been identified as Thomas Devine, CIA agent or asset, not clear which., an old friend of George Bush. 2 remains unidentified. Might 2 be George Bush? The very mention of DeMohrenschildt in this research as being someone Dulles would use as a contact needs further corroboration. Three names come up that I know little about - Brod, Itkin, Fenwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Strictly on the topic of Ramfis Trujillo, his father's assassination was a product of the Eisenhower administration and abetted by our CIA. Was Ramfis hoping to be installed in power in Santo Domingo for backing an assassination plot against Ike's successor that our intel services already had in motion? In other words, backing JFK's assassination in order to curry favor with his father's killers, and not out of any direct revenge against Kennedy? Or did Ramfis have reason to blame JFK? Remember one of Hemming's more reliable lines (paraphrase): a lot of people threw money at the JFK assassination, and that lot could be controlled afterward by the threat of prosecution hanging over their heads. Why should Ramfis Trujillo be immune, or above that ilk? Edited October 25, 2017 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Paul: Itkin was referred to Demohrenschildt by Allen Dulles in 1954. Their relationship went on for a few years. (Destiny Betrayed, Second Edition, p. 194) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Thanks Jim. Dulles and De Mohrenschildt. Wow. David - I get what you are saying about Ramfis Trujillo. What occurs to me on a different track is the possibility that financing was outsourced, just as I suspect the hired killers were outsourced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Paul Brancato said: David - I get what you are saying about Ramfis Trujillo. What occurs to me on a different track is the possibility that financing was outsourced, just as I suspect the hired killers were outsourced. So, Ramfis as bagman, though some of that money had to be his. And under LBJ he didn't get the long-term outcome he wanted, yet he opened himself to exposure under Hemming's Law, as paraphrased above. The corollary to Hemming's Law is Hemming's other statement that he found himself at meetings where he refused money offered for JFK's assassination. I don't think these situations exclude each other or that one is a fabrication. I suspect there were Agency-approved donors, and others that would not be enfranchised. Edited October 26, 2017 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paz Marverde Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 25/10/2017 at 10:17 PM, James DiEugenio said: Itkin was referred to Demohrenschildt by Allen Dulles in 1954. Their relationship went on for a few years. (Destiny Betrayed, Second Edition, p. 194) Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paz Marverde Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 25/10/2017 at 9:14 PM, James DiEugenio said: And its possible to trace it back to Clay Shaw's visit there to form Permindex It was more than a visit. Shaw was in CMC Board of Directors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paz Marverde Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 25/10/2017 at 8:30 PM, George Sawtelle said: Metta's info may prove extremely valuable in getting to the truth. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paz Marverde Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 25/10/2017 at 9:14 PM, James DiEugenio said: we know that both Angleton and Shaw considered Italy their second countries Very fascinating is Angleton's father bio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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