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https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10409&search=Fain#relPageId=4&tab=page

Commission Document 8 - FBI Fain Report of 03 Jul 1961 re: Oswald/Russia p. 3

 

“Mrs. Oswald advised on April 28, 1960, that subject (Lee Harvey Oswald) had been engaged in the export-import type of business at New Orleans, Louisiana after visiting her in Fort Worth, Texas in 1959.”

 

Does anyone have any idea what LHO was supposed to have been, or what he told his mother that he had been, exporting and importing?

 

Steve Thomas

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10 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10409&search=Fain#relPageId=4&tab=page

Commission Document 8 - FBI Fain Report of 03 Jul 1961 re: Oswald/Russia p. 3

 

“Mrs. Oswald advised on April 28, 1960, that subject (Lee Harvey Oswald) had been engaged in the export-import type of business at New Orleans, Louisiana after visiting her in Fort Worth, Texas in 1959.”

 

Does anyone have any idea what LHO was supposed to have been, or what he told his mother that he had been, exporting and importing?

 

Steve Thomas

Foreign Service Despatch (sic)

November 2, 1959

ref" _____ October 31, 1959

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57690#relPageId=13&tab=page

"Oswald is the bearer of Passport N. 1733242, issued on September 10, 1959... The passport shows that he was born in New Orleans, Louisiana on October 18, 1939 and gives his occupation as "shipping export agent." 

 

It's funny nobody seems to have asked what he was supposedly shipping.

 

Steve Thomas

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Steve, I think this comes from the very short period when Oswald was working as a courier or carrier of some sort for small items being shipped out from New Orleans...no doubt someone recalls more details. During that period he did spend time down at the dock area...which is actually the first place he did leafleting in New Orleans.

 

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1 hour ago, Larry Hancock said:

Steve, I think this comes from the very short period when Oswald was working as a courier or carrier of some sort for small items being shipped out from New Orleans...no doubt someone recalls more details. During that period he did spend time down at the dock area...which is actually the first place he did leafleting in New Orleans.

 

Larry,

 

Commission Document 321 - CIA Helms Memo of 25 Jan 1964 with Attachments

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10722&search=Oswald_passport+September%2C+1959#relPageId=14&tab=page

p. 14.

After approximately three days in Fort Worth, Oswald left for New Orleans, Louisiana, ostensibly to go to work for an import-export firm for which he had worked briefly prior to enlisting in the Marines on 27 October, 1956.”

 

WC testimony of Max Clark:

 

Mr. CLARK - “... he stated that when he got his discharge from the Marines that he went - I said, "How did you get a visa; how did you get to Russia ?" He said very simple; he just went down, made application to get a visa and what he had to do was to put up so much money for some kind of tour and at the same time when he put up this money for his passage, why, he got his visa stamped and he said he went to Russia, “

 

Mary Ferrell Chronologies:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=40396#relPageId=19&tab=page

Oswald tells Max Clark that he wrote to a tourist agency and put up some money for a Russian tour permit. Once he got the permit, he got his passport.

 

September 4, 1959. Oswald applies for a passport. Says that he is in the export business and plans to attend the Albert Schweitzer College in Switzerland.

 

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10556&relPageId=34&search=%22Passenger_Immigration%20Questionnaire%22

 

December 3, 1963 FBI interview of Mr. Charles G. Stokes, Passenger Traffic Manager, Lykes Brothers Steamship Company. Stokes made available the original of a “Passenger Immigration Questionnaire” dated September 16, 1959 signed by Oswald. Oswald's occupation on his passport was listed as “Export Shipping Agent.”

 

If he got a tour guide permit in order to get a passport, why did he list “Export Shipping Agent” on his passport? What did he intend to export? People? *smile*

 

You know, it's funny. The impression I get from looking at Oswald's service record and the training he got in the Marines, he was basically an air traffic controller. He never seemed to apply for a job in that field. I guess after a couple of years, he was sick of it.

 

Steve Thomas

 

 

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On 4/3/2018 at 10:08 PM, Steve Thomas said:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10409&search=Fain#relPageId=4&tab=page

Commission Document 8 - FBI Fain Report of 03 Jul 1961 re: Oswald/Russia p. 3

 

“Mrs. Oswald advised on April 28, 1960, that subject (Lee Harvey Oswald) had been engaged in the export-import type of business at New Orleans, Louisiana after visiting her in Fort Worth, Texas in 1959.”

 

Does anyone have any idea what LHO was supposed to have been, or what he told his mother that he had been, exporting and importing?

 

Steve Thomas

 

I think it's interesting that page 4 of the report references the April 28, 1960, report by SA Fain in which he claimed that Marguerite Oswald told him her 5' 9.5", (approx)140-lb., straight-haired, grey-eyed son was a Robert Webster-like 5' 10", 165-lb., blue-eyed, wavy-haired dude, and that, as pointed out by Bill Simpich, these false biometrics ended up being integrated into Oswald's computerized biographical file by Bill Bright of the CIA's Soviet Russia Division while Oswald was still in the USSR.  Equally interesting is the fact that some of the above-mentioned false LHO biometrics (the height and weight, plus "the suspect is about 30 years-old") ironically(?) ended up being broadcast on police radio by Dallas Police officer Herbert Sawyer about 15 minutes after the assassination (iirc), after he'd allegedly been given this information by a mysteriously-very-difficult- to-describe "witness" who had allegedly seen the suspected sniper running away from the rear of the TSBD. 

If I remember correctly; I'm going from memory here. 

--  TG

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15 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Foreign Service Despatch (sic)

November 2, 1959

ref" _____ October 31, 1959

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57690#relPageId=13&tab=page

"Oswald is the bearer of Passport N. 1733242, issued on September 10, 1959... The passport shows that he was born in New Orleans, Louisiana on October 18, 1939 and gives his occupation as "shipping export agent." 

 

It's funny nobody seems to have asked what he was supposedly shipping.

 

Steve Thomas

Oswald's passport lists his occupation as a "Shipping Export Agent".

I don't find any reference in the Soviet documents (CE 985)

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=417&tab=page

that he was ever asked by the Soviets, "Exactly what are you going to be importing and exporting Mr. Oswald?"

 

Why?

 

Steve Thomas

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2 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Oswald's passport lists his occupation as a "Shipping Export Agent".

I don't find any reference in the Soviet documents (CE 985)

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=417&tab=page

that he was ever asked by the Soviets, "Exactly what are you going to be importing and exporting Mr. Oswald?"

 

Why?

 

Steve Thomas

 

Steve,

What are we to make of Yuri Nosenko's statement that Oswald was so crazy acting (slicing one, and maybe  -- as the hospital records indicate -- both wrists) and suspicious looking that the KGB didn't even interview him (even though he WAS a Marine radar operator who had worked with the U-2 spy plane)?  If the Kremlin were to suddenly cough up a transcript of his KGB interview(s), wouldn't they in effect be admitting that Nosenko was a false defector?

--  TG

PS  Given the fact that Oswald wanted to defect (or at least appear to defect) to the USSR, what do you think would have been better than "import-export" agent for him to have written on his passport application?

 

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