Cliff Varnell Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) On 7/23/2018 at 9:08 AM, Paul Brancato said: Jeff - let me make a point a little clearer: when a man like Trump goes after the FBI and Justice Department the way he has, it convinces me that his enemies are my friends. I don’t think the evidence against Trump is politicized. Ah yes. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. If one regards the National Security/Surveillance State as monolithic and hegemonic then the enemies of that Enemy are your friends -- Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. But if one regards the Bible-thumping Trump Cult as THE Enemy of Mankind, elements of the Surveillance State investigating the Trump Crime Family are your friends. I view the Surveillance State as faction ridden and given to intense internecine warfare. Neither monolithic nor hegemonic. The Boston Marathon Bombing left both the FBI and the CIA with black eyes. The Edward Snowden Affair took both the NSA and DEA down a peg. Both strike me as the product of competing agencies. Given the robust presence of Bible-thumpers within the Surveillance/Security State it is imperative that the Trump Cult be resisted and eventually removed. Edited July 26, 2018 by Cliff Varnell Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Carter Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 On 7/26/2018 at 7:26 AM, Cliff Varnell said: Ah yes. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. If one regards the National Security/Surveillance State as monolithic and hegemonic then the enemies of that Enemy are your friends -- Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. But if one regards the Bible-thumping Trump Cult as THE Enemy of Mankind, elements of the Surveillance State investigating the Trump Crime Family are your friends. I view the Surveillance State as faction ridden and given to intense internecine warfare. Neither monolithic nor hegemonic. The Boston Marathon Bombing left both the FBI and the CIA with black eyes. The Edward Snowden Affair took both the NSA and DEA down a peg. Both strike me as the product of competing agencies. Given the robust presence of Bible-thumpers within the Surveillance/Security State it is imperative that the Trump Cult be resisted and eventually removed. I don’t regard the National Security/Surveillance State as monolithic and hegemonic. Rather, leading figures within the National Security/Surveillance State regard it as such, as is confirmed by public statements they have made. During the second Obama term the codeword for a hegemonic worldview was “exceptional”, as in “I believe America as the exceptional country.” When I think of “enemies” of the National Security/Surveillance State, neither Trump or Putin really come to mind. The only true enemies seem to be persons and organizations dedicated to Constitutional protections and open government. The Surveillance State has a tight hierarchical structure which precludes factionalism or internal battles. However, America’s ruling class/elite/1% are precisely “faction ridden and given to intense internecine warfare.” On display these days in full intensity. The powers of the FBI, CIA, NSA, and DEA have only increased since Boston and Snowden. Very good article today by the excellent reporting team of Paul Fitzgerald-Elizabeth Gould, describing the deliberate manipulation of reality involving events in Afghanistan in the late 1970s, and how clusters of politicized insiders can in fact control national policy utilizing the controlled dissemination of information, with echoes of the internecine warfare of today. https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/07/27/the-grand-illusion-of-imperial-power/ Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Wengler Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1st Trump is a racist. 2nd Trump is the crookedest and president this country has ever had. 3rd there was and is conclusion between Trump and Russia aka Putin. 4th The greatest threat to the U.S and the world. is Valdimir Putin. As soon he is gone from the world stage. The U.S and the world will be a safer place. Link to post Share on other sites
Evan Burton Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Have people's opinions been changed but Trump's actions over the last few months? Link to post Share on other sites
David G. Healy Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 "NATO's essential and enduring purpose is to safeguard the freedom and security of all its members by political and military means. Collective defence is at the heart of the Alliance and creates a spirit of solidarity and cohesion among its members." Wanna pay for it, or not? These "objective-subjective" arguments/excuses are BS. Ya don't want to, perhaps *isolation* is the game of your hour. Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Allison Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Not quite sure where to post this, but the Capitol police officer that committed suicide yesterday was friends with Roger Stone, as his father, former Senate aide Howard Liebengood, and Stone were very close. Link to post Share on other sites
Pamela Brown Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) Ironic Dylan lyrics... Come senators, congressmenPlease heed the callDon’t stand in the doorwayDon’t block up the hallFor he that gets hurtWill be he who has stalledThere’s a battle outside and it is ragin’It’ll soon shake your windows and rattle your wallsFor the times they are a-changin’ https://www.bobdylan.com/songs/times-they-are-changin/ In further irony... https://www.beachamjournal.com/journal/2021/01/the-times-they-are-a-changin-bob-dylans-third-studio-album-was-released-on-this-day-in-1964-57-years.html and, if that's not enough... https://bobdylanstore.com/products/theres-a-battle-hoodie?variant=37462026649777 Edited January 13 by Pamela Brown Link to post Share on other sites
Pamela Brown Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/9/2021 at 11:07 PM, Evan Burton said: Have people's opinions been changed but Trump's actions over the last few months? It seems to me that Pres. Trump fell prey to his own hubris and ended up in a trap. This storming of the Capitol was not spontaneous; however, Trump's words provided the match. So, yes. Link to post Share on other sites
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