LBJ & Nixon Meeting on 11/21/63?

[Roy Wieselquist]

Much neglected, one of the greatest journalists of the 20th century, HELEN THOMAS, claims to have been at the Murchison's.  There's so much independent corroboration for this get-together that it isn't funny.  It happened.  It's kind of like professional witness Seth Kantor seeing/hearing/touching/smelling (everything but tasting) Jack Ruby at Parkland.  It happened.

Johnson, Nixon, Hoover, et al. could get around with all the modern transportation at their disposal.  LBJ left Carswell a few minutes after 11.  (Ron Bulman, thanks so much for Dave Powers' annotated itinerary.  He was so attentive to details as JFK's "get him there on time" man.  I'd never seen this before, a precious document.)  How hard was it for Johnson to be at some familiar place before midnight in his old stomping grounds?

This is like the quibbles about Mac Wallace.  His son says he saw him at supper in California ("after work" as he says Mac said from Joan Mellen), 6 pm, which is 8 Dallas time.  This is 7 and a half hours after the gunfire in Dealey.  How hard was it for Mac to get home by plane in that time?  With all the planes flying around at the time, at the beck and call of our lord and master the Military-Fascist-Complex.   See Robert Vinson, etc., etc.

There's a disturbing trend in the research community.  A Lone Nutter, or even not a Nutter, can make one microscopic quibble about the witnessing of one of a thousand other witnessings in one area, and throw out the whole area of research.

PS This is not to say that LBJ and RMN met in Dallas for three hours during the afternoon of 11-21, a la Roger Stone.  That would have been impossible.  Sure, Nixon was in Dallas at the Pimpsi Convention with Joan "Mommie Dearest" Crawford, but Lyin, Murderin Lyndon was in San Antonio (birthplace of Joan "Mommie Dearest" Crawford) and Houston at that time.

And by the way, add Ms. Crawford to the list of those who had foreknowledge of JFKA.  And she murdered her last husband, Alfred Nu Steele.  Circa 1963 Texas was the world's depository for human garbage.  With all due respect.

Edited July 29, 2018 by Roy Wieselquist

[Joe Bauer]

On 7/28/2018 at 6:52 PM, Douglas Caddy said:

Joe: Let us not forget about D.H. Byrd.

The rich and powerful also use commercial railroad trains to get around without being publicly noticed. Many decades ago an acquaintance in Houston was interviewed by Barbara Bush, who was having her hair done at home while conducting the interview, to be the chef on a private rail car that George and Barbara owned for travel within the continental United States. She stipulated that if he were chosen for the position he be required to sign an air -tight non-disclosure confidential agreement that contained severe penalties if he breached it. If time were not of the essence, this would also be a great way to transport a trusted person to carry out a secret mission.

Doug, the secret train travel story of the Bush's is intriguingly interesting.

The Bush's seemed to have many more secret aspects to their lives than most would suspect.  

 

 

Edited July 30, 2018 by Joe Bauer

[James DiEugenio]

RW: This is like the quibbles about Mac Wallace. 

 

When you have one of the very best fingerprint analysts in the country, and he is working from the very best documents available and he says its not a match, that is not a "quibble."

Secondly, when you say Helen Thomas was at the Murchison's, what do you mean by that?  First of all, which Murchison home was it?  When was it?  And where does she write about it?

[Michael Clark]

7 hours ago, Roy Wieselquist said:

Much neglected, one of the greatest journalists of the 20th century, HELEN THOMAS, claims to have been at the Murchison's. 

 

Seriously,

Quoting Roy so he might be notified....

Roy, can you tell us more about this?

[Joe Bauer]

On 7/28/2018 at 6:52 PM, Douglas Caddy said:

Joe: Let us not forget about D.H. Byrd.

IMO it is not greatly illogical to consider the possibility of an earlier starting time social get-together at one of the Murchison homes on the evening of 11/21/1963 where by the time LBJ arrived later in the evening, most of the regular society guests had already left.

Didn't Madeline Brown say as much? That LBJ arrived late and in a rush and soon after he and the cigar boys retreated into a private room? And not long after this he came out of this meeting in an agitated huff and again in a hurry, left the home?

That in-and-out scenario suggests LBJ was on a very tight schedule which one would expect if he needed to get right back to his Dallas hotel to provide logistical cover for his secret meeting tracks.

LBJ was a man of boundless high energy and running around like this at night wouldn't have been any problem for him at all.

 

Edited August 4, 2018 by Joe Bauer