Edwin Walker

[David Andrews]

According to Victor Marchetti, CIA
director Richard Helms was concerned about Garrison's investigation and
thought ...

Do you have a link to the Victor Marchetti material , Steve?

[Paul Brancato]

I wonder if CIA agent (or asset) Gaudet spoke Spanish.

[Paul Brancato]

I posted recently that I thought Newman, Simpich, and Scott should get together publicly and see if they can coordinate a unified field theory on Mexico City. I would find it strange if they are not communicating privately. Does Simpich still post here? If not, can someone contact him and ask him to join in? Perhaps a new thread would be in order, since this one is about Walker, and I doubt any of the three would conclude that Walker was involved in the MC impersonation.

[Steven Gaal]

According to Victor Marchetti, CIA

director Richard Helms was concerned about Garrison's investigation and

thought ...

Do you have a link to the Victor Marchetti material , Steve?

http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmarchetti.htm

http://newcombat.net/Conversation/angleton-helms-memo-re-hunt/

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Posted 18 October 2005 - 07:42 PM

If Victor Marchetti was actually a problem for CIA, they would have killed him.

But he wasn't. He was a plant.

Remember that ultimately, his stuff achieved nothing."

Interesting point, Matt.

It does seem that Marchetti has always remained a close friend of the CIA, despite his apparent "defection."

How many of us recall the gunman who opened fire outside CIA HQ at Langley in January 1993 and murdered several people? One curious fact about the killer was that he worked for a company owned by Victor Marchetti's son. This company had a highly classified relationship with CIA. Of course this is not to suggest any complicity in the murders by the Marchetti family, but one would think that if Victor Marchetti was persona non grata at CIA, then his son would have about zero chance of obtaining such a (lucrative?) contract with this highly secretive agency.

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Beware: The Douglas/Janney/Simkin Silver Bullets

By James DiEugenio

While the HSCA was ongoing, Angleton was involved in two exceedingly interesting episodes: one that seemed to extend the cover up of his activities with Oswald, and one aimed at furthering his not so veiled threat about being a fall guy. The first concerns the creation of the book Legend by Angleton's friend and admirer Edward Epstein. Written exactly at he time of the HSCA inquiry, this book was meant to confuse the public about who Oswald really was. If anything, it was meant to portray him as a Russian agent being controlled by DeMohrenschildt. At the same time, DeMohrenschildt was being hounded by Dutch journalist Willem Oltmans to "confess" his role in the Kennedy assassination -- which he refused to do. Right after he was subpoenaed by the HSCA, DeMohrenschildt was either murdered or shot himself. The last person who saw him was reportedly Epstein. Angleton's other suspicious action was the1978 article by Victor Marchetti about the famous "Hunt Memorandum". This was an alleged 1966 CIA memo from Angleton to Richard Helms that said no cover story had been put in place to disguise Howard Hunt's presence in Dallas on 11/22/63. Trento later revealed that Angleton had shown him the memo. The release of the article through former CIA officer Marchetti was meant to implicate the Office of Plans, run by Helms in 1963. Hunt worked out of that domain. This could be construed as a warning: if Angleton was going down, he was taking Helms and Hunt with him.Looking at the line of cover up and subterfuge above poses an obvious question: Why would one spend so much time confusing and concealing something if one was not involved in it? (Or, as Harry Truman noted in another context: How many times do you have to get knocked down before you realize who's hitting you?) In my view, the Meyer story fits perfectly into the above framework. Angleton started it through his friend Truitt in 1976. And then either he had Leary extend it, or Leary did that on his own for pecuniary measures in 1983. Angleton meant it as a character assassination device. But now, luckily for him, Simkin and Janney extend it to the actual assassination itself: The Suite 8F Group meets Mary and the UFO's.James Angleton was good at his job, much of which consisted of camouflaging the JFK assassination. He doesn't need anyone today giving him posthumous help.

[Paul Trejo]

According to Victor Marchetti, CIA director Richard Helms was concerned about Garrison's investigation and

thought ...

David, I think you're searching for this ending of that thought....

Victor Marchetti, former CIA agent who later wrote books on the JFK murder, testified to the HSCA that CIA Director Richard Helms would often speak with CIA officers about Jim Garrison's investigation. Helms once asked a group of CIA agents, "Are we doing everything we can for Clay Shaw?"

Victor Marchetti said that this changed his mind about the JFK murder and the CIA, and he later quit the CIA, partly because he believed they mishandled their role in the JFK investigation. One gets the impression that Marchetti concluded that the CIA (or at least Richard Helms) wanted to protect Clay Shaw in order to protect their own secrets about their own participation in the JFK murder.

Yet there are other ways to interpret Richard Helms' statement. Not everybody thought that Jim Garrison was doing the right thing by prosecuting Clay Shaw for the crimes of Guy Banister and David Ferrie. (If Banister and Ferrie had been alive, Garrison would have prosecuted *them* instead of Shaw, because Garrison had more solid evidence against *them* than he had against Shaw.)

Others thought that even if Shaw was involved in the JFK murder, the US Government let everybody except Lee Oswald slide for Hoover's (and Warren's) openly stated REASON of National Security. Therefore, by flaunting the FBI position on Lee Harvey Oswald as the "Lone Assassin," Jim Garrison was also undermining confidence in Earl Warren, J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI.

In other words, as RFK's Assistant Attorney General, Nicholas Katzenbach said, "Jim Garrison was a complete nut."

That is, other objections to Jim Garrison were possible -- CIA guilt in the JFK murder was not a necessary conclusion to draw from Richard Helms' statement. Besides, Jim Garrison LOST his case against Clay Shaw, for lack of evidence.

That said, Clay Shaw was clearly involved with Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans during the summer of 1963, and Clay Shaw clearly used the alias of Clay Bertrand, and Clay Shaw clearly lied to the jury. Further, Clay Shaw did perform some information-passing for the CIA -- but he was not an Officer in the CIA.

As for David Ferrie, he was also close to Clay Shaw (both were gay men in NOLA) and both were seen by many people in Clinton, Louisiana in the company of Lee Harvey Oswald in the summer of 1963. Ferrie, as a mercenary against Fidel Castro, was also useful to the CIA for paramilitary and other low-level tasks.

Like Frank Sturgis, Gerry Patrick Hemming, Loran Hall, Larry Howard and Harry Dean, David Ferrie was also a supporter of Fidel Castro from 1958 - 1960, and then, like them, he sharply turned against Fidel Castro by 1961. The CIA was known to contract with all these individuals (sans Harry Dean) for personal, risky raids against Castro's Cuba.

These paramilitary mercenaries (sans Harry Dean) would burn crops, burn bridges, and make nuisance attacks on Cuba for years. The CIA did fund them -- however, they were never CIA Officers or CIA Agents in any formal sense. They were low-level lackeys or "assets".

Garrison and Mellen were mistaken, IMHO, when they tried to name all of these people as CIA Agents. These people were just cannon fodder, bag men or money bags. They weren't actually in the CIA -- although they probably bragged that they were.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

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Edited November 28, 2014 by Paul Trejo

[Stephen Roy]

Steven

In your posts, it is difficult to figure who is saying what.

What's your source for this:

"In February 1968, the CIA prepared a report on David Ferrie that stated he was not a CIA employee, although a Office of Security file existed on him. When a synopsis of this file reached the period when David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front, the CIA deleted it."

Deleted WHAT from WHAT?

[Steven Gaal]

Steven

In your posts, it is difficult to figure who is saying what.

What's your source for this:

"In February 1968, the CIA prepared a report on David Ferrie that stated he was not a CIA employee, although a Office of Security file existed on him. When a synopsis of this file reached the period when David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front, the CIA deleted it."

Deleted WHAT from WHAT?

• "In February 1968, the CIA prepared a report on David Ferrie
• a synopsis of this file reached the period when David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front, the CIA deleted it." (David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front,DELETED FROM synopsis 1968 report above,GAAL)
• source http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/weberman/nodule11.htm

[David Andrews]

Delete

Edited November 28, 2014 by David Andrews

[Paul Trejo]

Steven

...What's your source for this:

In February 1968, the CIA prepared a report on David Ferrie that stated he was not a CIA employee, although a Office of Security file existed on him. When a synopsis of this file reached the period when David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front, the CIA deleted it."

Deleted WHAT from WHAT?

• In February 1968, the CIA prepared a report on David Ferrie
• A synopsis of this file reached the period when David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front; the CIA deleted it."
• (David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front, DELETED FROM synopsis 1968 report above, GAAL)

source

• http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/weberman/nodule11.htm

This isn't news. The CIA and the FBI have suppressed information about David Ferrie, Guy Banister and Clay Shaw ever since the Jim Garrison trials of 1968.

The reason is not simply that they were involved in multiple attempts to murder Fidel Castro -- but also that they were closely involved (as Jim Garrison showed) with Lee Harvey Oswald in the context of the Fake FPCC in New Orleans in the summer of 1963.

The existence of a Fake FPCC in NOLA is PROOF POSITIVE that Lee Harvey Oswald was not a "lonely Communist" or a "Lone Shooter" but he had many, many, many *accomplices* in his material culpability in the JFK murder.

Therefore, since Ferrie, Banister and Shaw are linked to Oswald's JFK murder scenario, they CLASH with the 1964 order of Supreme Court Justice Earl Warren to Classify all material contradictory to J. Edgar Hoover's "Lone Shooter" theory -- for 75 years.

We who still have some faith in the US Government are thankful that the JFK Information Act moved that date backward 22 years, and we're looking forward to the final release of all that secret information in October 2017.

Inside that large cache of top secret information to be released, we should also expect to find a big fat file on David Ferrie.

Sincerely,

--Paul Trejo

Edited November 29, 2014 by Paul Trejo

[Stephen Roy]

Steven

In your posts, it is difficult to figure who is saying what.

What's your source for this:

"In February 1968, the CIA prepared a report on David Ferrie that stated he was not a CIA employee, although a Office of Security file existed on him. When a synopsis of this file reached the period when David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front, the CIA deleted it."

Deleted WHAT from WHAT?

• "In February 1968, the CIA prepared a report on David Ferrie
• a synopsis of this file reached the period when David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front, the CIA deleted it." (David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front,DELETED FROM synopsis 1968 report above,GAAL)
• source http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/weberman/nodule11.htm

Thanks. So I guess Weberman was the source.

Weberman is a paradox. Based on topics with which I am very familiar, I can see that he often finds unique information. But by the same token, he sometimes misstates things (and doggedly resists my attempts at correction).

BTW, if you copy and paste his info into a Word document, it becomes searchable.

[Stephen Roy]

This isn't news. The CIA and the FBI have suppressed information about David Ferrie, Guy Banister and Clay Shaw ever since the Jim Garrison trials of 1968.

Not to the extent that you think. Internally and with each other, both agencies were remarkably candid about all three men. A great deal of that material has already been released via HSCA and ARRB. Don't expect a fat Ferrie file in 2017.

[Thomas Graves]

Steven

In your posts, it is difficult to figure who is saying what.

What's your source for this:

"In February 1968, the CIA prepared a report on David Ferrie that stated he was not a CIA employee, although a Office of Security file existed on him. When a synopsis of this file reached the period when David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front, the CIA deleted it."

Deleted WHAT from WHAT?

• In February 1968, the CIA prepared a report on David Ferrie
• [When] a synopsis of this file reached the period when David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front, the CIA deleted it."
• source http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/weberman/nodule11.htm

(The fact that David Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front was deleted from the synopsis of the 1968 CIA report. -- GAAL)

[edited in the interest of intelligibility by T. Graves]

Thanks. So I guess Weberman was the source.

Weberman is a paradox. Based on topics with which I am very familiar, I can see that he often finds unique information. But by the same token, he sometimes misstates things (and doggedly resists my attempts at correction).

BTW, if you copy and paste his info into a Word document, it becomes searchable.

Yes, Stephen Roy. Weberman does make mistakes. Lots of them.

Yes, I know that the Cuban Revolutionary Front became the Cuban Revolutionary Council and both were different from the the Cuban Student Directorate (DRE), but regardless here's one of Weberman's little mistakes from the very passage that Gaal linked us to in post # 750, this thread:

" When we interviewed BRINGUIER on February 2, 1967 he mentioned David Ferrie who appears in the February 19, 1967, article saying that David Ferrie at the time was affiliated with his (BRINGUIER'S) Cuban Student Directorate organization until the connection was terminated because of Ferrie homosexual activities." [Lloyd Ray 2.20.67]

But the actual 2/20/67 CIA document which Gaal referenced states it a little bit differently:

"When we interviewed him on 2 February he mentioned David Ferrie who appears in the 19 February [ New Orleans Times-Picayune ] article, saying that David Ferrie at one time was affiliated with his (Bringuier's) Cuban Student Directorate organization until the connection was terminated because of Ferrie's homosexual activities"

(NARA Record Number: 104-10262-10143, viewable at the Mary Ferrell Foundation)

side note: Ferrie died February 22, 1967

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The following is in a 4/26/1967 document about Ferrie in Oswald's 201 file (201-289248), box 17, volume 4.

The document was originally classified "SECRET", but in 1992 it was approved for release by the CIA Historical Review Program (after having been reviewed for FOIA in December, 1977).

It's viewable at the Mary Ferrell Foundation website. [NARA Record Number: 1993.06.29.09:23:56:650410] :

"[f.] From approximately November 1960 to August 1961 Ferrie was associated with the Cuban Revolutionary Front in New Orleans. He described the front as anti-Castro and claimed that he had been actively engaged in collecting food, money, and medicine for it. The office of the organization, he said, was located at the Balter Building. The head of the front was Sergio ARCHACA Smith. He said that in 1963 OSWALD was associated with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee in New Orleans."

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Since Weberman didn't bother to do it in Nodule 11, it would be nice if Steven Gaal would provide us with a RIF #, etc to that "Synopsis of the 1968 CIA Report" which Gaal and Weberman claim deleted information about Ferrie's connections with the Cuban Revolutionary Front.

That is if Gaal knows it.

If he doesn't post a RIF #, etc, to the CIA document, I'll have assume he's never read the original "Synopsis", and I will also have to assume that he uncritically accepts everything Weberman says as the "gospel truth" and passes it on as such.

--Tommy

Edited December 1, 2014 by Thomas Graves

[Mark Knight]

Mr. Trejo...please refresh my memory:

By what evidence--EVIDENCE, not innuendo, not inference, not wild guesses--can we conclude that Clay Shaw was "clearly" involved with Oswald?

[Steven Gaal]

http://www.ctka.net/pr599-lambert.html

Klansmen and Klan Targets,
Working Together!

As with Andrews, Lambert’s swipe at the Clinton/Jackson witnesses is equally as vapid. In Anthony Summers’ third and latest reprint of Conspiracy, now titled, Not In Your Lifetime, he has added a disclaimer to his Clinton, Louisiana section. The note advises that new research has come to light that will reportedly cast doubt on the Clinton evidence. (This after Summers makes a strong case for the veracity of the Clinton/Jackson people). Since Summers maintains contact with researcher, Paul Hoch and Hoch is generously acknowledged in False Witness, Summers is obviously referring to Lambert’s "evidence." Note to Tony Summers: Should you decide to reprint Conspiracy for yet a fourth time, you can remove the disclaimer. It isn’t needed.

In summary, the Clinton incident refers to a sighting of Oswald in the company of David Ferrie and Clay Shaw. Shaw was identified when the town marshall approached him and asked to see his driver’s license. The car was registered to the Trade Mart, and the town marshal later testified that the name given by the man matched the one on his driver’s license: Clay Shaw. Several of the people who saw Oswald in Clinton testified during Shaw’s trial, and were collectively referred to as "the Clinton witnesses."

Lambert leads off her Clinton chapter, titled "The Clinton Scenario and the House Select Committee," with quotes from Shaw’s lawyers that sets the tone for what follows. Sal Panzeca states, rather disingenuously, "I was told that we could discredit these witnesses because Garrison’s men ‘did it wrong.’ That the witnesses were told what to say and they said it." Yet under cross-examination at the Shaw trial, the defense didn’t even come close to discrediting them. On the contrary, even the usually biased James Kirkwood reported that "the Clinton people had a strong effect on the press and spectators and, one presumed, the jury at the opening of the trial." Another of Shaw’s attorneys, William Wegmann, is also quoted: "Clinton, that’s Klan country." And in that quote lies the dark tactic of this chapter—smear the Clinton folk as racist Klansmen to destroy their credibility. (Lambert also says the left-wing Italian journals that divulged Shaw’s PERMINDEX connections are not credible either. Apparently in Lambert’s world only middle-of-the-roaders are to be believed. Or should we say only those who are pro-Shaw?) According to Lambert’s theory (and it is just a theory), town marshal John Manchester and fellow Klansman, registrar Henry Earl Palmer, concocted this conspiracy. Additionally, they brought in non-Klan participants, Reeves Morgan, Lea McGehee, Maxine Kemp and Bobbie Dedon from 10 miles away in Jackson. But incredibly, added to this nest of racist conspirators were two African Americans, Corrie Collins and William Dunn!

Even Lambert seems confused by this strange mix, writing "Four of those in warring camps that summer (Manchester and Palmer on one side, Collins and Dunn the other) presented a strangely unified front six years later, testifying for Garrison." Nevertheless, this doesn’t stop Lambert from speculating wildly that the black witnesses were coerced by the Klansmen. Later, she switches gears and again speculates that the silver-tongued Garrison caused their cooperation, suggesting "that susceptibility to Garrison’s rhetoric among Clinton’s black community may have been a factor in their cooperation with him." These last two statements are literally dripping with racism. In the narrow view of False Witness black folk are too feeble-minded to think on their own, allowing themselves to be manipulated by Garrison’s eloquence and charisma, and are easily bullied by the KKK. This, despite the fact that these African Americans were taking great risks by participating in the Clinton voting drive, asserting the very independence Lambert would deny them. She goes even further by quoting Clinton District Attorney, Richard Kilbourne, who pooh-poohs the whole notion of the Clinton scenario. However, nowhere in Lambert’s "analysis" do we find any mention of Kilbourne’s own racist views, which are quite adequately on display in the documentary work-in-progress, Rough Side of the Mountain. Since Lambert sources the film, we have to assume she’s seen it.

More wild speculation is thrown into the mix as Lambert quotes a rumor that Garrison was going to run for the Vice-Presidency on the ticket with racist Alabama Governor, George Wallace. Later, Lambert writes that no one heard about Oswald being in Clinton until after Garrison began his investigation. According to witness Lea McGehee, this is false. Not only was he aware of it from his own personal experience, but word of the incident was printed in the Councilor periodical before the Garrison probe started.

But the centerpiece of Lambert’s chapter are the "shocking revelations" contained in the notes of an investigator named Anne Dischler. First, we are treated to such illuminating and relevant facts that Dischler "has 27 grandchildren, has her own ministry, owns and operates a retail fabric store, is an expert seamstress, bakes her own bread, and can shoot with the best of them." The "shockers" in Dischler’s notes are anything but—with one exception. According to Dischler she had seen a 3x5 black and white photograph of the black Cadillac taken while the car was parked across from the registrar’s office. Dischler revealed to Lambert, "‘Clay Shaw was in the driver’s seat—it looked like him to me … I remember the white-haired man in the picture and the small face of Oswald. It seems like Oswald was on the passenger side of the front seat but I’m not sure’ … This picture came from the district attorney’s office, she said, perhaps from Sciambra." Of course since the picture has long since disappeared, this allows Lambert to further speculate that Garrison had expertly manufactured a doctored, composite photograph. At least Lambert gives Garrison credit for being multi-talented!

Other revelations from Dischler’s notes include a possible additional Caucasian male who was registering that day, Winslow Foster. It has long been known that another white male, Estus Morgan, was in town that day. According to Lambert, someone—she doesn’t know who, of course—just overlaid Oswald’s identity onto the actions of Morgan. There is no credible evidence to back any of this up, as even Lambert concedes: "Who conceived this story is unknown, and precisely how they implemented it is unclear." According to Lambert, once Garrison got wind that the Clinton story was getting out of hand and that Dischler was getting too close to the truth, he pulled her and Francis Fruge off the case and sent up his evil henchman, Andrew Sciambra, to keep the lid on things. Of course this doesn’t explain what Garrison investigators Frank Ruiz and Kent Simms were doing up there. Again, in a chapter rife with speculation and theorizing, this is yet another absurd hypothesis.

Lambert’s assault on the HSCA is mercifully short, but still long on speculation. Once again, Garrison just poured on the charm and charisma "winning converts among the [HSCA] staff."

Lambert ends her Clinton follies by segueing into her next chapter, an attack on Garrison’s book, On The Trail of the Assassins, calling it one of the "strangest" in the history of American letters. Apparently she has never read her friend David Lifton’s writings. Garrison’s rather quaint notion of a coup d’état pales in comparison to Lifton’s theories about papier mache trees on, and underground excavations below, the grassy knoll, casket swapping and body alteration.

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In support of his Ferrie contention, Nolan brings up the mysterious trip Oswald made to Clinton, Louisiana but, crucially, he leaves out the visits he made to the neighbouring village of Jackson. To Nolan, Oswald's standing in line for hours to register to vote in rural Louisiana is best explained as a test of the "MKULTRA conditioning process". (p. 126) But the fact is that by leaving out Oswald's appearance in Jackson, Nolan has stripped the Clinton incident of its context. Before he turned up to register in Clinton, Oswald had stopped to get a haircut in the Jackson barbershop of Ed McGehee. There he asked about job opportunities in Jackson and was told about the East Louisiana State Hospital, which was a mental institution. McGeehe suggested Oswald talk to State Representative, Reeves Morgan, who he was sure would help him get a job. When Oswald dropped in on Morgan, Morgan suggested it would help if he registered to vote. So, the next day Oswald, in the company of David Ferrie and Clay Shaw, was in Clinton attempting to register. Once he reached the front of the line, Oswald was informed that it wasn't necessary to register in order to get a job at the hospital so off he went back to Jackson where he apparently filled out an application. (for more details see the second edition of Jim DiEugenio's Destiny Betrayed, pgs. 88-93). It seems fairly clear that the purpose of the Clinton trip was to help get Oswald a job at the State Hospital, and had nothing to do with Ferrie testing his control over Oswald. What purpose would be served in securing Oswald such employment remains a matter of debate and speculation.

While we're on the subject, I cannot let Nolan's treatment of the Clinton/Jackson incident pass without noting one other serious misconception. He writes that "Ferrie drove" Oswald in a black Cadillac that day, and that the other passenger "is believed to have been Guy Banister, based on witness descriptions, although some researchers have said the third member on the excursion was Clay Shaw", which, Nolan says, "is unlikely". (p. 125) This is a serious misrepresentation of the facts. Firstly, according to witnesses, Ferrie was the second passenger and not the driver. Secondly, it is not just "some researchers" who have claimed the driver was Shaw. It was Clinton witnesses John Manchester, Henry Palmer, Corrie Collins, and William Dunn. And,what's more, they positively identified Shaw in court. There is little real doubt that Shaw accompanied Oswald to Clinton, however unlikely Nolan finds that fact. And there is also little doubt that Guy Banister was nowhere around. Because, as he told both Jim Garrison's office and the HSCA, eyewitness Henry Palmer knew Banister from before 1963 and he was sure Banister was not in the car. (DiEugenio, p. 93)

[Steven Gaal]

How did Gerry Patrick Hemming say he contacted James Jesus Angleton ? He said he just called him.

The CIA would not abandon the CIA project "Oswald"

ED 5-4211 Sec 16/448 fone nbr. from an LHO notebook. Is Govt. Switchboard

in Fort Worth. Ref: CD 735 pp 33, 395 & 397.

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Yuri Merezhinsky, interviewed by Norman Mailer for his book Oswald’s Tale, says she was anything but virtuous, claiming she was a prostitute. He knew Marina quite well and says she was in a group of four people—two women and two men—that were plying their trade in a Hotel Leningrad that were eventually booted out of the city. It was an offence strong enough to be sent to a labor camp, which didn’t happen to Marina. What would lead her to this alleged occupation can only be speculated at but the KGB did maintain, “honey traps” for intelligence gathering purposes from various officials, both local and foreign. She would have been known as a “swallow” in the honey trap. Marina was known to associate with diplomats and high government bureaucrats. Her basic clientele would have been foreigners. She would years later admit to being raped by an Afghan ambassador. How would she meet up with this sort of individual? Never the less, Marina suddenly leaves Leningrad and ends up living with her aunt and uncle in Minsk, where he was a member of the secret police, the MVD. Merezhinsky, though not her lover, said she was quite promiscuous with many of his friends without regard to reputation. He said he never told Lee any of this. (Although Lee, understanding Russian would have picked up on the gossip.)

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