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Thank you David.

 

Another fun Manson family fact known by few (or I should say not important) is the connection between Saturday Night Live show and cast members and the Manson family.

1. Chevy Chase aka Cornelius Crane Chase of the Vanderbilt family. His birth father would divorce Cornelius mother and marry into the Folger family, In 1969 Abigail Folger would be one of the murder victims of the Manson family. Later in 1976 Cornelius would marry the ex wife of record producer Terry Melcher who was supposed to have been interested in recording Charlie Manson. Ironically Chevy's first big hit with the youth audience watching SNL was the wicked prat falls he would perform at the start of the telecast portraying a clumsy President Gerald Ford who only a month earlier had been in the cross hairs of a .45 caliber gun held by Squeeky Fromme. 

2. The funnyman Phil Hartman was friends with Manson's #2 in command Squeeky Fromme.  

Before she was known as one of Charles Manson’s favorite cult members, Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme had minor renown as a child performer. Born in 1948 to a homemaker mother and aeronautical-engineer father, Lynette showed an early interest in dance. By the late 1950s, she had joined the Westchester Lariats, a popular Los Angeles-based touring group that performed on network television and at the White House.

She attended Orville Wright Junior High School, where she got A’s and B’s and took drama classes for about two years. It was there that she met a young Phil Hartman, who would become a close friend and go on to stardom on “Saturday Night Live.” She loved him.

Tragically Phil Hartman would be murdered in 1998 allegedly by his much younger wife. The story went that Hartman's wife Byrnn went to an ex boyfriends home and confessed she had shot her husband while he was sleeping. Phil's wife and ex boyfriend return to the Hartman home where now Phil's wife is left to get back into bed with the corpse of her husband and decides to shoot her self in the head . Left in the Hartman home is this ex boyfriend  a stranger that doesn't belong in the home who had been a Hollywood stuntman and worked films on the Spahn Ranch. 

As a side bar there were many people involved in the Manson story that originated from Minnesota. Bugliosi, the defense attorney Paul Fitzgerald (name?), Melcher's side kick Greg Jakobson (spelling?), Dean Morehouse and his daughter, Diane Lake and a dead man that died or was killed in London who's girlfriend had left him for a life with Charles Manson and the family. And if the Hartman murder is connected then you can add Phil's wife to the list of Minnesotan's as she was born in Thief River Falls MN. https://murderpedia.org/female.H/h/hartman-brynn.htm

 

3. Funnyman Al Franken - Franken also a Minnesotan via NYC attended the prestigious Blake School in Hopkins Minnesota. would work on Saturday Night Live as a writer and also in front of the camera. He would become a Senator from the state of Minnesota even though he hadn't lived their since 1975. In an interview after gaining the senate seat he  claimed the most influential person in his life was a Rabbi who ran the largest temple and congregation in the state of Minnesota. This Rabbi would eulogize Isadore Blumenfield the most notorious mobster in Minnesota history and also a close collaborator of Meyer Lansky. In 2011 this same synagogue would host a furloughed Son of Sam killer David Berkowitz as a speaker at the Synagogue at $1,150.00 per ticket to congregation members. 

Franken's connection to Manson is his close relationship to the satanic Grateful Dead and Gravy Wavy Hog Farm 

Another comment regarding Chevy Chase is he and his family descend from the Van Courtlandt family a anti American Revolution Tory family. According to David Berkowitz the Process and their group of satanists would hold their rituals in the Van Courtlandt Park in Brooklyn NY.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Cortlandt_Park

 

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10 hours ago, John Kozlowski said:

Are there any good forums dedicated to Manson and the Tate/LaBianca murder that anyone can recommend? 

Sorry John but I don't have any good suggestions for a Manson/Tate forum. But here is an interesting video with Manson talking about his first encounter in prison (I think he dates it 1950) with Ron Hubbard's Dianetics (Scientology) and Robert Moores "Process Church of the Final Judgement" which the British exported to this country soon after exporting the likes of the Beatles, Stones, Animals, etc. or what became tongue and cheek known as the "British Invasion" they sent the heavier artillery their satanic networks.  "All you need is love.......... we all live in a yellow submarine....

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, John Kozlowski said:

Are there any good forums dedicated to Manson and the Tate/LaBianca murder that anyone can recommend? 

In case you haven't seen this thread:

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?16991-Zodiac-Killer-was-a-Member-of-the-International-White-Guard&p=125978#post125978

It's useful to search DPF and EF for past Manson threads that can lead you to forums.

See this site for forum links - see bottom of page:

http://www.cielodrive.com/index.php

Sorry - I don't follow Manson stuff constantly, it's just the O'Neill book and other emerging news that revives my interest.

There's this:

http://mansonmurders.proboards.com/

There's this blog, not a forum.  The guy really pushes legal and moral boundaries in dealing with the Tate family and others, but there may be some truths here:

http://tatelabianca.blogspot.com/2012/08/i-have-little-system-of-my-own.html

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2 hours ago, Jim Harwood said:

Sorry John but I don't have any good suggestions for a Manson/Tate forum. But here is an interesting video with Manson talking about his first encounter in prison (I think he dates it 1950) with Ron Hubbard's Dianetics (Scientology) and Robert Moores "Process Church of the Final Judgement" which the British exported to this country soon after exporting the likes of the Beatles, Stones, Animals, etc. or what became tongue and cheek known as the "British Invasion" they sent the heavier artillery their satanic networks.  "All you need is love.......... we all live in a yellow submarine....

 

 

 

Thanks for that. I recently listened to an episode of The Opperman Report that dealt with the Process Church and have started reading about it.

Edit: I see that video is from William Ramsey. He has a lot of of stuff online about the Process Church and Crowley. I listened to an episode of his podcast about the Son of Sam and possible connection to the church. Not sure how accurate it was but some made sense and was very interesting.

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2 hours ago, David Andrews said:

In case you haven't seen this thread:

https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?16991-Zodiac-Killer-was-a-Member-of-the-International-White-Guard&p=125978#post125978

It's useful to search DPF and EF for past Manson threads that can lead you to forums.

See this site for forum links - see bottom of page:

http://www.cielodrive.com/index.php

Sorry - I don't follow Manson stuff constantly, it's just the O'Neill book and other emerging news that revives my interest.

There's this:

http://mansonmurders.proboards.com/

There's this blog, not a forum.  The guy really pushes legal and moral boundaries in dealing with the Tate family and others, but there may be some truths here:

http://tatelabianca.blogspot.com/2012/08/i-have-little-system-of-my-own.html

I did not see that. Thanks for the links!!

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John, yes the Process Church is connected to Manson and Son of Sam. Below is a picture of Hollywood TV darling Mary Tyler Moore and one of the Satanist from the Process Church. Hollywood is essentially run by Satanist which is the ugly secret prosecutor Bugliosi tried so hard to cover up when he blamed all these ritual killings on Charles Manson who he claimed ordered them. Not unlike the satanic dog "Sam" that ordered Berkowitz to kill his victims.

Mary Tyler Moore posing with Satanist and member of the Process Church of the Final Judgement.

 

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12 hours ago, Jim Harwood said:

 Hollywood is essentially run by Satanist which is the ugly secret prosecutor Bugliosi tried so hard to cover up when he blamed all these ritual killings on Charles Manson who he claimed ordered them. Not unlike the satanic dog "Sam" that ordered Berkowitz to kill his victims.

Manson has admitted his role in the murders.

Charlie was a motormouth and we know what kind of big mouth Susan Atkins had but somehow over all these decades neither said a word about "gov't intel" connections to the murders.

I think it's funny that a worshiper of Donald Trump casts aspersions on Hollywood.  What's more evil than white supremacy?

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5 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

Manson has admitted his role in the murders.

Charlie was a motormouth and we know what kind of big mouth Susan Atkins had but somehow over all these decades neither said a word about "gov't intel" connections to the murders.

I think it's funny that a worshiper of Donald Trump casts aspersions on Hollywood.  What's more evil than white supremacy?

White supremacy--what a hoot!  I am not a worshipper of President Trump, I am a patriot that is calling out the British for trying to get rid of another US President (The British Killed JFK, Abraham Lincoln, William McKinley, Garfield , and going way back their representative Aaron Burr assassinated the founder of our national banking system Alexander Hamilton)  they see as being a threat to the "Special Relationship".  

You're a smart guy Cliff why don't you read the House of Lords report from December 2018. White supremacy, I'll be laughing at that bit of insanity into next week. It's funny just like the traitorous New York Times you're changing your narrative to now focus on Trump's racism. Are you a programmed robot? 

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7 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

What about Jolly?

Ron,

Are you asking about  Dr. Jolyon West? If so here is a 1994 article by historian Tony Chatkin who in 1994 wrote an article "British Psychiatry" From Eugenics to Assassination which covers the Manson case as well as other history. Chaitkin references a book by a Carol Green that has yet to be translated into english. Too bad I understand her work on the Manson case is outstanding. But Chaitkin had covered this territory with Manson long before this Oneil book. 

https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1994/eirv21n40-19941007/eirv21n40-19941007_028-british_psychiatry_from_eugenics.pdf

 

 

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Cliff,

If interested here are two articles from 1982 about how Hollywood was created and shaped as a brainwashing tool against Americans. If you hadn't noticed a lot of times many of our actors and rock stars have come from the most dubious anti American families. You got the clown from Crosby Stills Nash and Young (Neil Young was also close to Charles Manson) , who comes from the Van Courtlandt family (Van Courtlandt Park in Brooklyn is where the son of sam David Berkowitz claimed the satanists held their sacrifice rituals), you got Chevy Chase  a Vanderbilt , Anderson Cooper the CNN talking head is a Vanderbilt, Julia Louis Dreyfus comes from the notorious Dreyfus family and the list could go on and on totalling in the hundreds.

Good read though 1982

https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1982/eirv09n41-19821026/eirv09n41-19821026_060-how_british_intelligence_shaped.pdf

How the US Film Industry was subleased to the Mafia 

(Watch for the reference to JFK press secretary Pierre Salinger and Keith Barish (partners with Schriver husband in Planet Hollywood- damn but those Kennedy's love the nazi's dont they?) Barish started an off shore money fund modeled on Bernie Cornfield and Robert Vesco's IOS called Gramco. Joining Baris was Pierre Salinger, and the rest of Larry O'Brien's irish mob from the White House under JFK. Barish also enlisted the help of Prince Borghese (The Black  prince) not to mention a wealthy anti Castro Cuban. Now if that isn't a strange group of bedfellows I don't know what is. You got a Kennedy intern, the Kennedy press secretary, 6 of the Irish Mafia that worked for JFK inside the WH, then you got the Fascist prince of darkness the Prince Borghese (sp?) on the Granco team and one of the key family members of the Anti Castro Cubans also on the Gramco team. 

it begs the question --just who are the Kennedy's ?

https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1982/eirv09n43-19821109/eirv09n43-19821109_058-how_the_us_film_industry_was_sub.pdf

 

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This is the Synagogue in St. Louis Park that former SNL and US Senator Al Franken was associate with as a kid. Franken named the late Rabbi who ran this synagogue for years as the most influential person in his life. This rabbi would eulogize notorious mobster Kid Cann aka "Isadore Blumenfield" in 1981. 

 

But here is Senator Franken's synagogue hosting David Berkowitz the notorious Son of Sam killer in 2011.

https://www.tcdailyplanet.net/son-sam-appear-beth-el-synagogue/

What strange bed fellows. 

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2 hours ago, Jim Harwood said:

White supremacy--what a hoot!  I am not a worshipper of President Trump,

I stand corrected.

2 hours ago, Jim Harwood said:

Are you a programmed robot? 

Yes.  Nexus 6.  A basic pleasure model...How'd you know?

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1 hour ago, Cliff Varnell said:

I stand corrected.

Yes.  Nexus 6.  A basic pleasure model...How'd you know?

Sory Cliff but I thought you were screaming warnings of Theocratic Fascism. I saw the other day where the editor of the NYT's told his troops at the Times that they had to drop the Russian collusion narrative and switch to a narrative about Trump's racism. Then I see you making the same claim so I thought maybe you got programmed? 

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