W. Niederhut Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Larry Hancock said: Yes and No and sorry but I'm going to do it again because I spent chapter after chapter addressing this in Shadow Warfare...mea culpa Bottom line....in Afghanistan phase one the CIA sent money through Pakistan and partnered with Saudi to send even more money. Nobody cared where the money went as long as Russians got killed. And the Pakistani intelligence was literally allowed to run the entire show, with no CIA field involvement or oversight.... In reality the Saudi's and their ultra religious wing wanted the money to go to very specific jihad oriented groups as did the Pakistani's...and it did. CIA teams did not go in with it nor exercise normal field control of any sort. We just shoveled money to the Pakistani's, the Saudi's sent even more money and Bin Ladin went with it to ensure the right groups got it, establishing his base first in Pakistan and then Afghanistan. In phase two, other non jihad nationalist groups in Afghanistan complained they were being cut out of the money but as more and more Russians were being killed the CIA station chief in Pakistan was in no way going to sacrifice his primary goal of victory over the Russians over a few religious complaints. Finally, in phase three, things had gotten so bad that when we tried to send CIA folks into the field in Afghanistan to check they were threatened and sent packing by jihad militia - but by that point it was totally out of control and the Taliban was set to take the country back for the jihad (not for the old line nationalist or royalist Afghans...who eventually ended up forming the Northern Alliance - who would be our new post 9/11 friends). But we had shipped in anti-aircraft missiles, taken down lots of Hind gun ships, bloodied the Russians and made them look really bad, got our revenge for Vietnam and every politician involved took a bow......and promptly chose to ignore the whole bloody mess and how much we had been taken by the Saudi's and Pakistani's - until 9/11. Oh, and on your other point, the first warning of exactly how bad things had gotten was when CIA intel from Bosnia began to show that the same jihad groups the Pakistani's and Saudi's had funded in Afghanistan were showing up as well organized units in Bosnia...with plenty of weapons and plenty of money, stockpiled from the Afghan funding no doubt, but with new investments from Bin Laden and their own "charitable" fund raising. That's the short story, the citations are in the book...grin. Thanks, Larry, I obviously need to read your book. But, in the meantime, can I ask you the $6,400,000,000,000 question? What is your opinion about the "rumors" that Osama Bin Laden (aka "Tim Osman") and the 9/11 "Al Qaeda hijackers" were CIA/Saudi trainees at some point prior to 9/11? Put differently, were these guys the "Lee Harvey Oswalds" of a 9/11 black op? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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