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2 hours ago, Paul Bacon said:

With due respect Mr. Di I disagree with your answer.  Russian meddling would surely be investigated.  Remember, Trump was warned that Russia was trying to make contact with his campaign.  All evidence of Russian meddling would have been thoroughly investigated.   And it would have turned up the same info.  The investigation wouldn't have been impeded by all the stonewalling and lying.

Obviously he has gone off the rails, down the Q rathole. People are never the same after that.

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3 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Let me ask a rhetorical question:  Would Russia Gate have happened if HRC won the election?

Obviously not.  There would have been no controversy over the Steele Dossier, Comey would have never shoved it in Trump's face and in all probability Buzzfeed would have not published it. Which means that Trump would not have fired Comey and there would have been no Mueller.

How did this all really occur then?  Because the entire Establishment and MSM thought HRC was going to win. Recall, Huffpost said it was in the bag, a probability of over 90 per cent. Almost every pundit and every celebrity  said Trump was not going to win.

HRC had every material advantage in the race, in fact it was not close in that regard--more money, more workers, the Access Hollywood tape etc.  How did she lose then?  As Steve Bannon said, they outflanked her.  They spent their limited funds in holding onto the south, and making forays into the upper midwest and mideast.  That is the Rust Belt.  And they disguised Trump as the economic nationalist.  Since they knew no one would buy HRA in that role due to her husband's record on NAFTA and Glass Steagall.  No one bought her as a change agent.  When a Democrat loses Wisconsin, Michigan Ohio and Pennsylvania, something is wrong someplace. Here it was both the candidate and the strategy.

No one likes to admit they ran a stupid ass campaign, even though they had all the advantages. So HRC blamed Comey and the Russians. 

And what is amazing is that she is still doing it with Stein and Gabbard.  Which shows you what a sore loser she is.  And also how she cannot take responsibilty for her own mistakes. She picked two bad managers in Penn and Mook. And she then blew the VP choice with the ultra safe pick of Kaine.  When in fact Sanders or Warren would have given her a real rocket boost. In fact, I think she would have won with either of them. These were all her mistakes, just as letting Trump make twice as many visits to the upper midwest was a bad error on her part while was actually trying to extend herself into states like Arizona while ignoring her base.

So, she decided to blame her defeat not on Mook, or herself but Comey and the Russians. Its called transference of  guilt.  And now she plays even more the demagogue with Stein and Gabbard.  This is not statesmanship and it is not being gracious in defeat.  And its not good for the Democratic Party. But mostly its not being candid about one's own failures. As Bannon said, her tactics played right into his gameplan.  He said economic nationalism beats identity politics every time. And it did.

And that is what happened.  And Michael Moore predicted it --with no Ruskie interference--and no one would listen.

I agree with virtually everything you say here about the idiotic "strategy" of the Democrats. Other events entered into to it (Comey's announcement, voter rolls etc) but the fact is it should have been a cake walk.

I do think much of the interference, suspicions etc would have been investigated but usually the winner doesn't pursue their opponent in these cases opting to unite the country rather than settle scores.

I have never been a big fan of either Clinton although I believe Hilary was possibly the most qualified candidate I've seen in my lifetime if not ever. What we're now seeing IMO is the end result of a virtually bankrupt candidate with no experience who has no idea of what the job entails or how to function within established norms and in some instances laws.

This whole mess was predictable and the Republicans have to get back closer to the mainstream in my view. What used to be Eisenhower Republicans are now centrist Democrats and have difficulty presenting a reasonable candidate to most Americans IMO (Bush, Trump, Palin - VP). McCain could have been acceptable until he selected Palin - plus Obama was going to be tough to beat.

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6 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

BN: We of course hear of exceptional cases from time to time but that's what they are - exceptional.

If this is not an exceptional case then what is?

Read this to mean exception. Same-same.

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At least the Senate Committee On Intelligence Report (Volume 2) has been identified as the ur-text in regard to Russian interference. I note in their findings that Russian government sponsorship is first identified as aspirational, and then presumed because it is “consistent” with the aspirations. The Committee’s own “understanding” of the presumed relationship between the IRA’s CEO and Putin himself seals the deal because it “points to” significant Kremlin support. Hmmmm. Maybe that’s why the court challenge in DC keeps getting delayed when the IRA’s lawyers request substantive information.

It is also notable that the scope of the “massive attack” does not extend much beyond $100,000 in Facebook ad buys. Just for context, professional propaganda campaigns have been in the news, and information about their budgets are available. Syria’s White Helmets, for example, were working on annual budgets of about $30 million - and they were only moderately successful. The Integrity Initiative - devised to “defend democracy from Russian disinformation” received over $3 million from the UK government for fiscal 2017, and is only one part of the UK’s Conflict, Stability, and Security Fund which has a slush fund of over a billion dollars. That’s serious money - the Russian program seems so…. piddling, in comparison. Am I missing something?

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BN: What used to be Eisenhower Republicans are now centrist Democrats and have difficulty presenting a reasonable candidate to most Americans 

This is so true that it is now a truism.  And IMO, this is why Trump won the GOP nomination and Sanders almost won the Democratic nomination.

The Democrats have become the Eisenhower Republicans and the Republicans have gone to the right of Goldwater.

Paul and Andrew, no I do not think there would have been any inquiry.  Because as Bob says, virtually every time, if you win, you do not do that stuff.

 

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5 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

I am going to guess that few, if any here, are aware of Flynn's other criminal trial.

While everyone has been focused on the Flynn Russian Collusion trial, and the Special Counsel's efforts to bend over backwards to get some sort of conviction, another prosecution team in the Federal District Court of Eastern Virginia (Anthony Trenga presiding) has been bending over backwards to not convict the CEO of Flynn Intel Group (FIG)Bijan Kian Rafiekian.

Briefly, 

A jury found the former CEO of Flynn Intel Group, Bijan Kian Rafiekian, guilty of:

Trial Judge Anthony Trenga reversed the juries decision, and recommended a new trial.

  • Judge Trenga entered his final judgement on September 24, 2019.
  • The prosecutors have not filed a motion for a new trial.
  • The prosecutors appealed the final judgement by Trenga on October 24.

As brassballs.blog has been covering for over a year now, the judge and the prosecution have been trying to cover up the case all along. 

  • Meanwhile, Rafiekian is free on bond.
  • He faced up to 15-years in prison.
  • Prosecutors never filed a motion to jail him.
  • They never said Kian was a flight risk.

Some of you may ask;

  • Why is the judge and prosecution trying to cover up this case?
  • How come no one in the MSM is covering this trial?
  • How come General Flynn was never prosecuted?

The judge and prosecution need to cover up this case because it reveals the farce that is the Flynn Russia Gate Collusion Obstruction case.

More importantly, if Flynn was ever brought to trial, it would open up the proverbial can of worms, that the CIA, FBI, State Department would prefer to keep closed. This would include;

  • the disclosure of official US government complicity in the Turkish spy effort, in order to;
  • Get that pipeline built in Syria, and raise the question as to whether;
  • Bijian Kian (wittingly or unwittingly) was being used to pressure Flynn (wittingly or unwittingly) to;
  • accept the guilty charges related to the Russia Gate Collusion Obstruction case; which,
  • advances the Mueller and MSM narrative that Trump knowingly conspired with the Russians to steal the election and therefore should be removed from office.

This is where things get good. Consider the following:

All in the context of the attempt to bury the Bijian case by the judge and prosecutors;

  • Why did Flynn drop his original legal team and hire Sydney Powell?
    • Answer part 1: Flynn and his original legal team had the Bijian case hanging over their heads.
    • Answer part 2: The Bijian case can no longer be used as leverage against Flynn.

Crickets.

None of the Trump Colluded with Russia "experts" here ever heard of the Bijian Kian trial.

The one trial, out of the two, where prosecutors could legitimately haul Flynn in to court, and threaten him with 30 years for not knowing that the CEO of his own company was bribing the Turkish government.

And yet the prosecutors have not hauled Flynn in to court, and they never will.

I would like to hear from the Trump Colluded with Russia "experts"; why?

The Bijian Trial is the "you-know-what" in the Flynn "Obstruction" prosecution punch bowl. 

Here is a simple JFK analogy for the experts.

It is 2019. You are 17 years old.

You just read the five paragraphs about the JFK Assassination in your Holt-Mifflin AP History textbook. 

Everything you know about the JFK Assassination is contained in those five paragraphs.

You now consider yourself an expert on the JFK Assassination.

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1 hour ago, Jeff Carter said:

At least the Senate Committee On Intelligence Report (Volume 2) has been identified as the ur-text in regard to Russian interference. I note in their findings that Russian government sponsorship is first identified as aspirational, and then presumed because it is “consistent” with the aspirations. The Committee’s own “understanding” of the presumed relationship between the IRA’s CEO and Putin himself seals the deal because it “points to” significant Kremlin support. Hmmmm. Maybe that’s why the court challenge in DC keeps getting delayed when the IRA’s lawyers request substantive information.

The court challenge by IRA is going to be delayed in part to because of classified information, which is extensive in the Senate report. The intelligence agencies of Russia aren't stupid. If they can mine information from seemingly innocuous legal disclosures they will, and I believe have done so before (though I don't currently have a source for that - it's pretty obvious IMO).

The Wagner Group, in case you're interested:

https://www.fpri.org/article/2019/10/diplomacy-and-dividends-who-really-controls-the-wagner-group/
Please check the heading Titled "Linkages between Wagner and the Russian State" which has an interesting flow chart of the different Russian entities. You'll find IRA in there.

1 hour ago, Jeff Carter said:

It is also notable that the scope of the “massive attack” does not extend much beyond $100,000 in Facebook ad buys. Just for context, professional propaganda campaigns have been in the news, and information about their budgets are available. Syria’s White Helmets, for example, were working on annual budgets of about $30 million - and they were only moderately successful. The Integrity Initiative - devised to “defend democracy from Russian disinformation” received over $3 million from the UK government for fiscal 2017, and is only one part of the UK’s Conflict, Stability, and Security Fund which has a slush fund of over a billion dollars. That’s serious money - the Russian program seems so…. piddling, in comparison. Am I missing something?

The ad buys are a small fraction of what can be accomplished in an internet influence campaign. The report states that IRA spent millions in the online effort but FB doesn't account for much of that impact. That doesn't matter. For instance:

The report states that twitter reported that 50,000 accounts identified as bots were coming from Russia. If for example, Jim Di had 50,000 bots back linking K&K it could have an enormous impact on organic search results and traffic driven to his site. Some years ago link farms were developed to back link to web sites when Black Hat SEO's figured out that back links were the most important part of the Google (and others) search algorithm. You could actually buy for $10 thousands of bogus back links and drive a web site up in the search results (SERPS). When Google figured it out they penalized the sites and changed their algorithm (abt 2012?? - Google "Penguin Update" if interested/unfamiliar). Thousands of web sites whose SEO's had used this tactic went out of business or had to change their URLs because it was impossible to undo the damage by asking thousands of sites to remove the links.

Part of all this is the technical skill of the Black Hat operators and their ability to leverage their money ( mostly through labor not ad purchases ) in organic campaigns using the web, Youtube, comment spamming (linking through comment sections of sites like we do here), Instagram etc. Quantifying these activities would be the purview of SIGINT activities rather than canvassing providers (although that is helpful) which I'm sure is possible using inbound traffic results - no doubt the NSA has ridiculous decryption capabilities.

Thanks for reading the report to respond to this.

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39 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

Crickets.

None of the Trump Colluded with Russia "experts" here ever heard of the Bijian Kian trial.

The one trial, out of the two, where prosecutors could legitimately haul Flynn in to court, and threaten him with 30 years for not knowing that the CEO of his own company was bribing the Turkish government.

And yet the prosecutors have not hauled Flynn in to court, and they never will.

I would like to hear from the Trump Colluded with Russia "experts"; why?

The Bijian Trial is the "you-know-what" in the Flynn "Obstruction" prosecution punch bowl. 

Here is a simple JFK analogy for the experts.

It is 2019. You are 17 years old.

You just read the five paragraphs about the JFK Assassination in your Holt-Mifflin AP History textbook. 

Everything you know about the JFK Assassination is contained in those five paragraphs.

You now consider yourself an expert on the JFK Assassination.

Haha! We're getting to you, don't you fret hahaha! Looks interesting btw.

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The hidden story of the 2016 election is the massive, multi-faceted voter suppression campaign conducted on behalf of Donald Trump...

The GOP’s Stealth War Against Voters

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-247905/

When Donald Trump claimed, “the election’s going to be rigged,” he wasn’t entirely wrong. But the threat was not, as Trump warned, from Americans committing the crime of “voting many, many times.” What’s far more likely to undermine democracy in November is the culmination of a decade-long Republican effort to disenfranchise voters under the guise of battling voter fraud. The latest tool: Election officials in more than two dozen states have compiled lists of citizens whom they allege could be registered in more than one state – thus potentially able to cast multiple ballots – and eligible to be purged from the voter rolls.

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Report: More Than 30M Voters Purged From Rolls in Last 5 Years

https://www.governing.com/topics/politics/Report-More-Than-30M-Voters-Purged-in-Last-5-Years.html

In a 2013 case known as Shelby County v. Holder, the Supreme Court struck down Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, which required counties or states with histories of discrimination to submit any proposed changes to voting rules or procedures to the federal Justice Department or a federal court, a process known as "preclearance."

Prior to the Supreme Court’s decision, counties covered by Section 5 purged voters at about the same rate as counties that were not required to seek federal permission.

But once those areas were free to make changes without federal approval, the Brennan Center report found, counties once covered by Section 5 purged voters at a higher rate than counties that were not required to seek preclearance.

The counties with histories of discrimination now purge about 10 percent of voters on their roles, while counties that did not require preclearance canceled about 7 percent of registrations.

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The Comey Letter Probably Cost Clinton The Election

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-comey-letter-probably-cost-clinton-the-election/

Hillary Clinton would probably be president if FBI Director James Comey had not sent a letter to Congress on Oct. 28. The letter, which said the FBI had “learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation” into the private email server that Clinton used as secretary of state, upended the news cycle and soon halved Clinton’s lead in the polls, imperiling her position in the Electoral College.

The letter isn’t the only reason that Clinton lost. It does not excuse every decision the Clinton campaign made. Other factors may have played a larger role in her defeat, and it’s up to Democrats to examine those as they choose their strategy for 2018 and 2020.

But the effect of those factors — say, Clinton’s decision to give paid speeches to investment banks, or her messaging on pocket-book issues, or the role that her gender played in the campaign — is hard to measure. The impact of Comey’s letter is comparatively easy to quantify, by contrast. At a maximum, it might have shifted the race by 3 or 4 percentage points toward Donald Trump, swinging Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida to him, perhaps along with North Carolina and Arizona. At a minimum, its impact might have been only a percentage point or so. Still, because Clinton lost Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by less than 1 point, the letter was probably enough to change the outcome of the Electoral College.

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A GOP-led Senate intel committee report states the obvious: Russia favored Trump in 2016

https://www.vox.com/2019/10/8/20905160/senate-intelligence-russia-2016-election

On Tuesday, the Senate panel released its second set of conclusions focused on Russia’s use of social media during the last campaign season. What it discovered was what US intelligence agencies have long assessed: Trump was Russia’s favorite.

“The Committee found that the IRA sought to influence the 2016 US presidential election by harming Hillary Clinton’s chances of success and supporting Donald Trump at the direction of the Kremlin,” the report reads using an acronym for the Internet Research Agency, the name for the group of the Russian hackers.

They did this in multiple ways, according to the report. The IRA targeted African Americans more than any other group through Facebook pages, Instagram accounts, Twitter trends, and more. “By far, race and related issues were the preferred target of the information warfare campaign designed to divide the country in 2016,” the committee wrote. The IRA also got unwitting targets to hand over personal information, sign petitions, attend rallies, and even teach self-defense classes.

It makes sense why Russia would choose to weaponize anger around race. As my colleague P.R. Lockhart noted last December, race issues in 2016 could be exploited due to already existing tensions in the US that were amplified by Trump as a candidate. Russia’s efforts later evolved into attempts to influence racial justice activism after the election, as Russian groups contacted black activists running legitimate organizations and attempted to set up real-world events.

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Geez...when is this nauseating Trump/Fox Gaslight Theater series, now in its Third Season, finally going to end?

Today's T/F Gaslight Theater episode featured a decorated Iraq War veteran being smeared by the Trump/Fox Goon Squad for testifying that Trump did, in fact, attempt to extort political favors from Ukrainian President Zelensky, in exchange for designated military aid. 

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman also testified that Tricky Trump and his cabal of tricky attorneys edited the July 25th transcript to cover up references to Joe Biden and Burisma.

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23 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

Why is Jeff Carter reluctant to mention that John Dowd was Trump's lawyer from June 2017 to March 2018?

Absolutely hysterical segment on Maddow regarding Parnas' multitude of Investment Companies and the closure of them by regulators (something along the lines of 5?). Parnas is claiming to be on the staff of Rudy Guiliani (don't take a job like that! Parnas has to pay 500k to work for good ol Rudy) working for Trump and therefore his attorney, the sparklingly clean John Dowd, claims Parnas has some executive privilege complications or some such.  Maybe his other employer, Dmytro Furtash, reputed Russian mobster currently in Vienna but under indictment here, can help him out if the President doesn't.

I don't know why any one would think this is unseemly haha!

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Please show me where HRC ever made a speech like this one.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-israel-palestinians_n_5db7a36fe4b02aee7d351cfd

This is the woman who had Gaddafi killed so Libya could turn into a rogue state full of Fundamentalists who could then raid Europe across the sea.

Sanders approach is much more like JFK's, which I outlined in the second issue of the Zine garrison.  And this shows how much the DLC, Henry Jackson Democrats took over after his death.  You know HRC and Bill schmoozing it up with Mr. Genocide, Henry Kissinger.

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35 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:

Please show me where HRC ever made a speech like this one.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-israel-palestinians_n_5db7a36fe4b02aee7d351cfd

This is the woman who had Gaddafi killed so Libya could turn into a rogue state full of Fundamentalists who could then raid Europe across the sea.

Sanders approach is much more like JFK's, which I outlined in the second issue of the Zine garrison.  And this shows how much the DLC, Henry Jackson Democrats took over after his death.  You know HRC and Bill schmoozing it up with Mr. Genocide, Henry Kissinger.

Bernie is the only prominent American politician since Jimmy Carter who has had the cajones to publicly criticize Israel's Likud Party hardliners.

Obama (and Hillary) both acquiesced in the CIA/NATO/Neocon wars-- the one major policy area where I strongly disagreed with them.  (Leon Panetta allegedly told Obama early on his presidency, "Look, you can't just say, 'no' to these (MIC) guys.")

But, at least a Hillary presidency wouldn't have paralleled the basic plot line of Breaking Bad, like the current Trump/Fox Gaslight Theater series.

Trump keeps lurching from one crime, cover up, and policy fiasco to another.

We could call Sunday's episode, "Throw Baghdadi From a Plane."

 

 

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And let me add something else.

Bernie was not the only one there.  I think it is important to note who was  there.

It was Bernie, Buttigieg, Bennett, Klobuchar, and Castro.

Some sent messages, but Harris did neither.  

This J Street group is really part of the Democratic party that is trying to bring back the Dems from the Republican Lite DLC days.  As the poll quoted shows, that is where most of the party is on this issue.  Meanwhile the large part of the GOP is essentially in Likud's camp.  And Obama did nothing with the issue.

In that article in garrison, I noted that Kennedy--through 1962 and 63--pressed David ben Gurion, for some kind of Palestinian resettlement agreement, which the UN would pay for, and secondly for inspections of Dimona.  Ben Gurion danced around the second issue.  When JFK sent him a second letter cutting through the BS, Ben Gurion resigned within 24 hours of receiving it. 

This was another policy that was reversed upon his death. First by Johnson, and then even more by Nixon.  The guys in the CIA from back then will tell you that Kennedy was the last president who was completely dedicated to nuclear non proliferation. Especially in the Middle East.  LBJ and RMN did not do jack about it.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

And yet the prosecutors have not hauled Flynn in to court, and they never will.

I would like to hear from the Trump Colluded with Russia "experts"; why?

The Bijian Trial is the "you-know-what" in the Flynn "Obstruction" prosecution punch bowl. 

 

Sure this is easy. The judge f*ed up and let it go to the jury with improper instructions apparently. Flynn dropped out of his agreement and left no witnesses to testify against the defendants. The judge reversed himself (and the jury) which is very rare (but takes balls) and now Flynn is quite possibly hanging in the breeze so to speak. Not good news for Flynn really. I believe in this case he'll get the worst of both worlds - having admitted to the charge but leaving the bride at the alter. She won't be happy. Maybe not though.

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