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I have been able to find 2 documents showing 4 different serial numbers of the rifles sent to the FBI...

C250/CE542 is the most famous as it's the one Frazier testifies about being so identical to CE139 - but we are never told the serial number.

Does anyone have information regarding these rifles the FBI somehow secured?
Does anyone have information regarding what became of the "LEFTOVER INVENTORY" from the 99 remaining rifles in that lot?

Has ANYONE, ANYWHERE ever seen a Fucile Corto rifle with any one of the other 99 serial numbers?
They were advertised from April 1963 until Nov 1963...???

If the February 21, 1963 order contained 100 different rifles than those listed on Scibor's master list, how would we know?

For to me it sure looks like the space behind these notations is BLANK while the rest of the page has lines and artifacts of copying...

Hmmmm.

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Hi David:

I have written about this specific instance of alleged FBI acquisition of MC/FC rifles, alleged "duplicate" of the similarly alleged assassination weapon, in my forthcoming work on the true history of the WCC 6.5mm ammunition. I will send you a private message shortly with what I have discovered concerning the various serial numbers. This issue is rather murky and involves a memorandum originally constructed by Robert Frazier in December of 1963, a memo that eventually carries a Frazier handwritten notation of "Not sent" but a memo that he eventually did send to Ivan Conrad in June of 1964. Part of your inability to potentially discover the serial numbers of rifles acquired by the FBI from Kleins via the Chicago FO is that some of this documentation is in a folder in an FBI bulky serial file that as far as I know is not available anywhere online - i.e. via Mary Ferrell website or others. One specific example is found in 62-109060-8307X, Part 1, Box 109, Folder number 16. As indicated, I will send some of what I have in my manuscript along to you via a private email/message.

Gary Murr

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I read your message and replied... 

Much of that info is in the Armstrong notebook I reference in my reply.

Bottom line though, not one of the other 99 rifles has ever been seen...  Century bought 700 of these same EXACT rifles
InterArmco also supplied KLEINS with weapons and was basically the CIA with a cutout.
SIDEM bid against ADAMS and Interarmco for these rifles... but not one word about them.

WALDMAN claimed they removed the remaining stock of CE-139 like rifles from inventory on Monday the 25th...  You telling me the FBI was not in a position to get one of these other
99 rifles (or however many were left) ... and/or they realized these rifles were NOT SCOPED... only the 36" TS rifles were for this special.

page 7 is the HSCA summary of the SHARP interview...

FWIW...
Century Arms in Montreal also provided SEAPORT the pistol... which eventually winds up on WESTBROOK's desk...  the man in charge of PERSONNEL...

:huh:  :rolleyes:

 

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On 11/7/2019 at 12:42 PM, David Josephs said:

I read your message and replied... 

Much of that info is in the Armstrong notebook I reference in my reply.

Bottom line though, not one of the other 99 rifles has ever been seen...  Century bought 700 of these same EXACT rifles
InterArmco also supplied KLEINS with weapons and was basically the CIA with a cutout.
SIDEM bid against ADAMS and Interarmco for these rifles... but not one word about them.

WALDMAN claimed they removed the remaining stock of CE-139 like rifles from inventory on Monday the 25th...  You telling me the FBI was not in a position to get one of these other
99 rifles (or however many were left) ... and/or they realized these rifles were NOT SCOPED... only the 36" TS rifles were for this special.

page 7 is the HSCA summary of the SHARP interview...

FWIW...
Century Arms in Montreal also provided SEAPORT the pistol... which eventually winds up on WESTBROOK's desk...  the man in charge of PERSONNEL...

:huh:  :rolleyes:

 

Your first sentence threw me. "'Two documents showing Four different serial numbers of the rifleS (!) sent to the FBI."   It's now much clearer.  

Oswald was part of the gun running/mailing of guns investigation by the government  at the time.  What was the Senator's name behind it?  From Virginia?

Edited by Ron Bulman
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Hi Ron:

I believe what you are referencing/inquiring about here was the Senate subcommittee chaired by Senator Thomas J. Dodd. This committee was set up to investigate mail-order gun business and initially held hearings from January to May of 1963. Both firms that Oswald allegedly ordered weapons from were investigated by this Committee. Dodd hired investigators to sample the market in mail-order guns. If you are interested in further exploring this issue see: U. S. Congress, Senate Subcommittee to Investigate Juvenile Delinquency of the Senate Judiciary; Hearings to Study the Interstate Traffic in Mail-Order Firearms. 88th Congress, 2nd Session, 1963, in particular p. 3596ff.

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After the assassination, Dodd, using CIA sources, helped the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee publish a story that Oswald had been trained at a KGB assassination school in Minsk. At the time, Dodd was on the payroll of the American Security Council, "the leading public group campaigning to use U.S. military force to oust Castro from Cuba, and to escalate the war in Vietnam."   http://www.famoustexans.com/leeharveyoswald.htm

 

Seems to me, most all his activities that seemed "intel-like" had the dual purposes of infiltrating the desired groups, yet also incriminate Oswald for his activities and connections...

SOMEONE created that Money Order
SOMEONE put THAT rifle on the 6th floor

SOMEONE made sure we'd only ever see C2766 and not one of the other 99 rifles...

So we must ask ourselves, if the idea was to place a rifle into Oswald's hands, why is there not a single report about Oswald and his weapons prior to 11/22?

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