JFKA Forum Journals of the Plague Year?

[Ken Davies]

Is that why the golpher in chief stopped taking it?

[James DiEugenio]

The Corbett Report is pretty reliable.

Bill Gates' father was a pretty bad guy who  operated in the upper levels of the power structure and made a lot of money doing so.  He also had much admiration for the Rockefellers and how they operated.  If you watch the Corbett video you will see Gates Jr say that the reason college is so expensive now is because of our healthcare system and keeping ill people  alive.  Now unless that was a hologram with an electronic voice attached  then  this is what Gates thinks.

Except I don't think he does.  Anyone who knows anything about the education system today understands that the reason its expensive to go to college today is because, as time has gone on, our tax system has become gutted and the Republicans have done everything they can to limit federal subsidies to higher education.  This was Ronald Reagan's baby and its why he appointed Bennett as Secretary of Education. When Ronnie  became Governor of California, both the UC and Cal State system were free. California had the best education system in America.  You could have gotten a degree from UCLA for nothing.  He was the first governor to begin charging for tuition.  And he carried this over to his presidency because his goal was to limit upward social mobility from the lower and working classes. Since the GI Bill had worked a miracle with returning vets.

I advise everyone to watch the Corbett video, its the best thing out there on Gates.  Many places like Snopes are trying to cover up for this guy.  But in my view he is just as bad in healthcare as he was in computers.  If you know anything about that, WIndows was and is a lousy operating system, which he essentially threw over DOS, which he actually paid for.  And he stole WIndows from Apple, which he admits in that video.  With that crappy system, the only way he dominated the market was because Apple stupidly kept their computer prices too high, so people bought  IBMs.  But Apple was a much better system.  As was Os 2, which Gates deliberately killed.  Gates blew Encarta, he blew the I phone, and he blew the web.  And when he realized that he blew the last, he went ahead and wrecked Navigator.  And he finally got caught.  If you want to see who Gates really is, watch his deposition in that case.   He comes off as what Mort Sahl termed him, a Radio Shack manager run amok.  You don't know what arrogance is until you have seen it. And its why the judge ended up ruling against him.

Edited May 26, 2020 by James DiEugenio

[Ron Bulman]

On 5/24/2020 at 3:07 AM, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Did you ever get a link for this Ron? How about CoronavirusBellCurve.com ? Scroll down to Texas.

 

Hi Sandy.  I've been watching the bell curve for a couple of months now every 2 - 3 days.  I mentioned previously it gets depressing if you focus on it daily.  The number of new cases, for Texas in particular shown for the previous five days, and you can hover on previous days, show the rate to have flattened.  A result of people previously SIP I believe.  But it's still not going down for two weeks before opening anything, as the Scientists advised.

[W. Niederhut]

5 hours ago, Ken Davies said:

Is that why the golpher in chief stopped taking it?

Possibly, but I doubt that stopping the chloroquine has made any difference in the Trump's ghastly marriage.

If there's a theme song for Donald Trump's relationship with Melania in recent years, it must be the old Beatles' classic, "I Wanna Hold Your Hand."  🤥

 

Edited May 26, 2020 by W. Niederhut

[Paul Brancato]

5 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

Watch this then.

I’m not defending Bill Gates, or any other billionaire. But that’s not him in the film talking to the CIA. How many of you just believe it because it looks or sounds a bit like him? You all know we are in trouble with new technologies that can fake video and audio. The Bill Gates conspiracy theories floating around right now are disinfo campaigns. Where would we be without vaccines? I wouldn’t dare defend bad vaccines, or corporate greed. But painting all vaccine makers as up to no good? Anyone have proof that Gates is planning on making even more money off this? Are we going to hear now that Margaret Sanger was a racist eugenicist? They exist you know. But teaching family planning to poor people, or Klan women, doesn’t make you a racist or eugenicist. 
Ask yourself this - how many of the 50 billionaires that call SF their home can you name? What are they doing behind the scenes out of sight of prying eyes? Why is it that Bill Gates is on the hot seat? Ever think maybe the true racists are hiding in plain sight on the nether side of these conspiracy theories? 

[James DiEugenio]

Paul:

I am not referring at all to that other video.

But you did not watch the Corbett video. He talks about the money he is making off of vaccines.  And by the way, this is the short version.  Its actually in three parts.  He really did say that about long term health care vs education.

And not all of these stories are false about Gates. Its not at all hard to see that what Gates did with Microsoft, he is now doing in world health. He likes being at the center of things. 

BTW, you do understand about him and Epstein?  I am beginning to think that the Epstein case is a Pandora's Box.

Edited May 26, 2020 by James DiEugenio

[Anthony Thorne]

The Corbett Report is pretty reliable stuff, and James Corbett has a decent amount of scepticism about some of the nuttier conspiracies out there. 

Trine Day are teasing a new Epstein book from Whitney Webb.

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Other books on Jeffrey Epstein focus on the depraved nature of his crimes, his wealth and his most famous/politically-connected friends and acquaintances. This book, in contrast, reveals definitively that Epstein's activities were state-sponsored through his intelligence connections.

[James DiEugenio]

Its a shame Whitney has to go through a small house.

Really.  She does such good work.  But that is the way publishing is today.

[Paul Brancato]

Robert - I think Malthusian theory is being sorely tested. Eugenics has many faces, and a bad rap mostly due to Nazi race theory but also pre and post Nazi racist theories. Population control isn’t inherently racist, but can be. Population explosion isn’t happening in the white world to my knowledge, which leads to speculation that promoters of population control are interested primarily in limiting non white populations. I’m white, not racist, and I see a problem when it comes to the world’s resources. On my ideal planet white consumption would have to be checked, resources shared more fairly, I know I benefit from white privilege. I also know that the planet can not handle endless mining and oil extraction, and I think we are reaching the long predicted breaking point. 
it doesn’t surprise me that CIA would be looking at genetics as a means of control. I still question how it is that Bill Gates becomes the focus of conspiracy theories about New World Order. I’ll watch the Corbett report on Gates later today. But I have to wonder aloud, again, why a Foundation that focuses money and attention on sanitation and clean water worldwide, but mostly in the third world countries that lack financial resources to tackle the problem, becomes a target? Who is the racist in that room? 
I’ve read about Technocracy, though not recently. In principle I’d rather scientists made crucial decisions than corporations or governments. 

[W. Niederhut]

In COVID-19 era, Bill Gates is world’s most-interesting person

Gates is the boogeyman in the fevered minds of many a delusional Trumper. The global lunacy community — anti-vaxxers, science-deniers, Russian agents — has spread so many conspiracy theories regarding Gates that misinformation about him is now among the most widespread of all coronavirus falsehoods.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/25/egan-in-covid-19-era-bill-gates-is-worlds-most-interesting-person/amp/

by Timothy Egan

 

May 25, 2020

“It tires me to talk to rich men,” said Teddy Roosevelt, himself a product of wealth. “You expect a man of millions, the head of a great industry, to be a man worth hearing. But as a rule, they don’t know anything outside their own businesses.”

Had T.R. spent time with Bill Gates, the polymath who predicted the pandemic in a TED Talk, he likely would have made an exception.

Gates is everywhere these days, a lavender-sweatered Mister Rogers for the curious and quarantined. With the United States surrendering in the global war against a disease without borders, Gates has filled the void. The U.S. is isolated, pitied, scorned. Gates, by one measure, is the most admired man in the world.

Beyond the $300 million that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has given to blunt the spread of the virus, Gates has made himself a spokesman for science. It needs one. While President Donald Trump spouts life-threatening nonsense, Gates calmly explains how a spike protein of coronavirus fits into the urgent hunt for a vaccine.

He’s the prophet who warned in 2015 that a pandemic was a greater risk to humankind than nuclear war. Five years before that, he challenged the world health community to commit to a decade of vaccines and anted up $10 billion to get it started.

In 2018, he took the stage in Beijing with a jar of human poop. This, at the Reinvented Toilet Expo, was his way of stressing that about 500,000 young children die every year from diseases linked to poor sanitation — a problem his foundation has tackled.

Do I need to know that he and Melinda enjoy “This is Us,” the sap-heavy television series? No. But as they’ve already given away more than $50 billion as self-described “impatient optimists working to reduce inequality,” I’ll take their gloss on pop culture over an update on Kim Kardashian’s lip gloss.

Big Philanthropy can be about diplomatic power and muscle under the guise of charity. But there’s an inescapable truth about the world’s second-richest man’s decision to give away his fortune: The Gates Foundation has helped save millions of lives.

With the coronavirus, which Gates has called “the most dramatic thing ever in my lifetime by a lot,” his approach is to inject a turbocharger of money at many different levels. The foundation calls it “catalytic philanthropy.” To speed up the steps needed to get a vaccine to the world, for example, he’s funding the construction of factories to manufacture seven possible coronavirus vaccines, even if most of them fail.

Many tycoons tend to get miserly and cold-hearted as they age. Gates has evolved in the opposite direction. Early on, the co-founder of Microsoft was arrogant, insufferable, whiny and socially distant when that was considered offensive — a monopoly capitalist without the imagination of his rival and friend Steve Jobs.

His initial efforts at philanthropy — giving computers away to underserved libraries and schools — opened him up to criticism (largely unfair) that the donations were part of a scheme to expand the market for Microsoft products. Gates soldiered on, making himself an expert in infectious diseases. He helped to create a market for lifesaving drugs that are often ignored by Big Pharma.

It’s uncanny how spot on he was in that 2015 speech. The greatest threat to the world was “not missiles but microbes,” he said. “You have a virus where people feel well enough while they’re infected so they get on a plane,” he said.

The first major U.S. outbreak, in a nursing home just 11 miles from Gates’ house near Seattle, made him regret that he had not spoken out even more. He had warned Trump, just before he took office, of the seismic dangers of a pandemic.

Now, of course, Gates is the boogeyman in the fevered minds of many a delusional Trumper. The global lunacy community — anti-vaxxers, science-deniers, Russian agents — has spread so many conspiracy theories regarding Gates that misinformation about him is now among the most widespread of all coronavirus falsehoods.

The crackpots who have targeted Gates include Roger Stone, Laura Ingraham and anti-vaxxer Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Would you get in a lifeboat with that trio?

The world needs a strong American response precisely because the disease has become a huge American problem. With less than 5% of the world’s population, the United States accounts for more than 30% of the planet’s coronavirus cases. When Trump snubs the World Health Organization, he hurts American citizens.

The safer route for a billionaire trying to avoid social media predators is idle-rich vacuity. But Gates, who had urged nations to simulate “germ games not war games,” will not sit this one out from the safety of a yacht. He’s smart enough to see that this virus does not pick sides.

 

[Kirk Gallaway]

I love this sequence. Wheeler first gives you his "would you believe??" Bill Gates "presenting to the CIA"  post which he completely believes, but after Paul  traces it to "Jew World Order" , Wheeler quickly segues to Corbett, "Then Watch this"and Jim undaunted, jumps head long into Corbett not missing a step..

 

Jim says:

He (Gates)really did say that about long term health care vs education.

What's wrong with that? ??I'm not sure whether you understood Jim? A quarter of all medicare spending is spent in the final year of life. And Gates makes the analogy that education suffers. Does that make Gates a Eugenicist? Or does it make me one for explaining it to you? .

That certainly shouldn't upset Wheeler, if you've gotten anything from Wheeler outside of juicy, new conspiracy theories you know he's quite willing presently to sacrifice lives to open the economy. Gates statement maybe is not PC enough for you Jim (Jew hating OK though?), but it's a legitimate conversation to have. Corbett certainly didn't make any real connection between Gates and  George Bernard Shaw and so that segment was misleading and irrelevant..

The right has been very sneaky in  connecting  planned parenthood with Eugenics, and some fools fall for it, and there are many levels to look at it. But I feel fewer unwanted pregnancies is better than more and I uphold a woman's right to choose and discussing population control doesn't make someone a Eugenicist.

Jim Said:

BTW, you do understand about him and Epstein?  I am beginning to think that the Epstein case is a Pandora's Box.

Yeah Jim, that might be even be juicier than Marilyn and Peter Lawford!!! .Hah hah  So I'm to assume that Bill Gates was all in for subsidizing Epstien's Eugenics scheme for him to impregnate 20 woman a day? After all he did fly in his plane once. Yeah you can't get much more intimate than that! Gates makes a statement distancing himself. But who would believe that? I'm sure Gates has gone to E's island many times and Melanie watches, just.like Hilary?

Sure the press  may end up giving  Gates more trouble about it but do you really think Gates would jeopardize every thing he's got going to be  brought down in a scandal with Epstien?

 Soros is getting too old and he's just not as believable a scapegoat anymore, so it's Gates..

Edited May 26, 2020 by Kirk Gallaway

[Paul Brancato]

Kirk - thanks for responding to the context I provided. Maybe the CIA/Gates story didn’t originate with the antiSemitic publisher on whose website I viewed the ‘film’. But they sure promoted it. 
why is Snopes a target? Are they no longer credible, or perfect? 

[Kirk Gallaway]

It's funny you mentioned that Paul. In another covid conspiracy thread on an expat site I was on yesterday someone posted this below. I  immediately thought of Wheeler. I responded by using snopes which verified JFK never said it. And you know what response I got from a second person? "SNOPES is no longer a reliable source because it has been bought and paid for by Soros! ".  I then went to a non snopes site , I think it was politifacts to again deny the JFK statement, then I went to another non snopes site, to verify that snopes was not bought by Soros! Of course the primary villain in the thread is Bill Gates and then I come here late last night and see the same thing from Wheeler!  It's a widespread  BS social media epidemic! or pandemic!

Edited May 26, 2020 by Kirk Gallaway

[David Andrews]

One thing to keep on the desktop in the age of Trump and Gates: historically, American eugenics movements - on a continuum from the Rockefellers through Margaret Sanger to the Pioneer Fund - have principally been reactions to epochal rises in immigrant population.

And even a seeming' left-libertarian like Fletcher Prouty could get suckered into preaching Malthusian economics and getting his name on the mastheads of right-leaning publications and organizations.

Edited May 26, 2020 by David Andrews

[Paul Brancato]

44 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

It's funny you mentioned that Paul. In another covid conspiracy thread on an expat site I was on yesterday someone posted this below. I  immediately thought of Wheeler. I responded by using snopes which verified JFK never said it. And you know what response I got from a second person? "SNOPES is no longer a reliable source because it has been bought and paid for by Soros! ".  I then went to a non snopes site , I think it was politifacts to again deny the JFK statement, then I went to another non snopes site, to verify that snopes was not bought by Soros! Of course the primary villain in the thread is Bill Gates and then I come here late last night and see the same thing from Wheeler!  It's a widespread  BS social media epidemic! or pandemic!

Exactly Kirk. The first time I saw Snopes referred to as fake news was during an online exchange during the 2016 campaign with a relative who was bashing Hillary Clinton, smearing her for calling Margaret Sanger, who he called a racist, one of her heroes. He accompanied this with a photo of Sanger in KKK robes with burning cross in the background. I found the photo on Snopes proving that her face was photoshopped onto a real photo. Both real and faked photos in hand, I countered, and added that the element of truth was that Sanger once addressed a group of NJ Klanswomen about family planning. Of course it was to no avail.