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Trump supporters in caravan of big-redneck-dick pickup trucks pepper-spray Portland protestors:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/aug/30/trump-supporters-drive-through-crowd-and-pepper-spray-protesters-in-portland-video

Or, as Jackson Browne sang:

Now your daddy's in the den shootin' up the evening news
Mama's with a friend, lately she's been so confused
Little one, come on and take my hand
Well, I may not have the answer but I believe I got a plan
 
Honey, you shake, I'll rattle, we'll roll on down the line
See if we can't get in touch with a very close friend of mine
But let me clue you in, it ain't like him to argue or pretend
Well, honey let me introduce you to my redneck friend
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It’s like RFK Jr. was making fun of Cliff directly yesterday in his Berlin speech. At least the Nazi part. I think he is making fun of the rest of you guys in the rest of the speech.

Let’s see who has the ‘nads here to listen to the speech and call the last remaining relevant Kennedy a conspiracy theorist.


 

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That's a pretty groovy post for Wheeler! Maybe he'd like to go for RFK's health-care-for-all plan! But that could be a conflictf with his 4 time Bush voting historic record. When given a choice, Both Bushes preferred funding a couple trillion to the War in Iraq!

He'd be a little more convincing for Wheeler if he used the word "plandemic" instead of pandemic. A real disappointment! Germany's certainly done pretty well with covid!

I've always heard it skips a generation, but don't think by any measure this was at all a pro Trump rally. RFK Jr. called Trump a "bully". Again a little understated for the Trump opposition. Doesn't give either side completely what it wants, but then he's a politician!

 

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3 hours ago, David Andrews said:

Trump supporters in caravan of big-redneck-dick pickup trucks pepper-spray Portland protestors:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/aug/30/trump-supporters-drive-through-crowd-and-pepper-spray-protesters-in-portland-video

Or, as Jackson Browne sang:

Now your daddy's in the den shootin' up the evening news
Mama's with a friend, lately she's been so confused
Little one, come on and take my hand
Well, I may not have the answer but I believe I got a plan
 
Honey, you shake, I'll rattle, we'll roll on down the line
See if we can't get in touch with a very close friend of mine
But let me clue you in, it ain't like him to argue or pretend
Well, honey let me introduce you to my redneck friend

Been a while since I heard it, thanks.  Lets go whole hog here.  Just pictures but full screen full and volume too, for what computer speakers are worth.  The song really jams out on a higher quality stereo system.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jackson+browne+redneck+friend&view=detail&mid=692BBAFEBB0031CD7F71692BBAFEBB0031CD7F71&FORM=VIRE0&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3djackson%2bbrowne%2bredneck%2bfriend%26form%3dPRUSEN%26mkt%3den-us%26httpsmsn%3d1%26msnews%3d1%26rec_search%3d1%26refig%3daaae500db2194651ae4a1beaa33bbd03%26sp%3d2%26ghc%3d1%26qs%3dAS%26pq%3djackson%2bbrowne%2bredneck%26sk%3dAS1%26sc%3d8-22%26cvid%3daaae500db2194651ae4a1beaa33bbd03

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34 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

Speaking of historic speeches, I sincerely hope that everyone here had a chance to hear Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler's remarkable speech today.  It was one for the ages.

 

Powerful.  "It's you."  Thanks for the link.  I've not yet noticed it featured by the MSM.

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3 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

No it's pretty much everywhere. Fox, CBS, NBC. I saw it earlier on CNN, but I saw a close up without the interpreter for the deaf. It comes off more strongly.

You can always access the full address if you go to their online sites.

 

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On 8/29/2020 at 10:37 PM, Cliff Varnell said:

Upon reflection, Ron, I think you’re entirely correct.  I’m going to follow your lead and put Wheeler on ignore.  It’s the only adult thing to do.

Well, that didn’t last long...

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16 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

It’s like RFK Jr. was making fun of Cliff directly yesterday in his Berlin speech. At least the Nazi part. I think he is making fun of the rest of you guys in the rest of the speech.

Let’s see who has the ‘nads here to listen to the speech and call the last remaining relevant Kennedy a conspiracy theorist.


 

And the million person rally he was addressing? Not. 
 

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16 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

It’s like RFK Jr. was making fun of Cliff directly yesterday in his Berlin speech. At least the Nazi part. I think he is making fun of the rest of you guys in the rest of the speech.

Let’s see who has the ‘nads here to listen to the speech and call the last remaining relevant Kennedy a conspiracy theorist.


 

I listened. What’s your take Robert? I know who RFK Jr. named as the killers of his uncle, and I know how he feels about his father’s murderers too. Do you? I know I’m in the minority here on Covid, and though I won’t say I subscribe totally to what RFK Jr. is saying, I’m closer to that point of view than that of Bill Gates or Anthony Fauci. But I will ask you to acknowledge a few things: RFK Jr does not support Trump, and he sees him for the existential threat he is, not an adversary of the Deep State, or surveillance state, but a creation of and a facilitator for that group. The Real Deep State controls both sides of the so called aisle, and includes as its founding members the Military Industrial Banking complex.  Second - he is firmly on the side of minorities, whether citizens or not, of the US, and of the rights of the poor. He has true empathy, despite his privilege. He is convinced that the anti- Vaxxers are right. I’m leery of vaccines too, and big pharma, but it’s not up for debate that some vaccines have been beneficial. You agree? 

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5 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

I listened. What’s your take Robert? I know who RFK Jr. named as the killers of his uncle, and I know how he feels about his father’s murderers too. Do you? I know I’m in the minority here on Covid, and though I won’t say I subscribe totally to what RFK Jr. is saying, I’m closer to that point of view than that of Bill Gates or Anthony Fauci. But I will ask you to acknowledge a few things: RFK Jr does not support Trump, and he sees him for the existential threat he is, not an adversary of the Deep State, or surveillance state, but a creation of and a facilitator for that group. The Real Deep State controls both sides of the so called aisle, and includes as its founding members the Military Industrial Banking complex.  Second - he is firmly on the side of minorities, whether citizens or not, of the US, and of the rights of the poor. He has true empathy, despite his privilege. He is convinced that the anti- Vaxxers are right. I’m leery of vaccines too, and big pharma, but it’s not up for debate that some vaccines have been beneficial. You agree? 

RFK Jr does not support Trump,(that's fine) and he sees him for the existential threat he is, not an adversary of the Deep State, or surveillance state, but a creation of and a facilitator for that group. (He may be right. I am not 100% convinced Trump is an adversary of the Deep State. There is a part of me that is worried that Trump is just playing a part. I would say most Trump supporters would say the same thing. The unwillingness to go 100% is due to historical precedent. At a base level, the official Gov't position on who killed JFK means the limits of deception are unbound.

Kill the President and cover it up for 57 years? Inconceivable, but that's the reality. Is Trump in cahoots with the Deep State to pave the way for a Hillary dictatorship? Is such an elaborate plan possible? Well, JFK, RFK, MLK, 9/11, Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, Anthrax attacks no one talks about. Those were all elaborate plans with Long Term cover-ups.

On the other hand, we have people like Maxwell and Epstein running around raping girls with the well wishes of the CIA and FBI through three Admins (Obama, Bush-2 and Clinton) and now they are in jail or dead. That's something new that Trump has done (plenty of other trafficking arrests - see "BackPage" take down, see this weekends rescues of 29 kids in Georgia (the MSM skipped this huge story.) The Republican wing of the Deep State seems to hate him. McCain proffered the dossier very early on. The Bush's are backing Biden. Romney voted to impeach. (In my book, he is despised by the right people.)

As an analogy only, if I am 80% confident Trump is fighting the Deep State, then I am 99.9% confident Hillary, Obama & Biden are the Deep State. Trump is therefore the better choice.

Quickly - Vaccines - In general I have supported them. The more I learn, the less so. What's wrong with Chicken Pox? (We all got it.)  Why is Bill Gates such a heavy promoter? (not enough time to give my full attention.)

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On 8/29/2020 at 5:57 PM, Robert Wheeler said:

In the meantime, the CDC says only 6% of Covid related deaths were Covid only deaths. That is, 94% of the deaths also had a co-morbidity.

Boy are people going to be pissed off when they find out the whole economic shut down was for nothing.

I don't think they are going to blame the Orange man.

 

2 Wheeler BS "facts". BS #1---First a BS Q-Anon quote (Why is anybody assuming anything credible from Wheeler?) about the coronavirus allegedly from the CDC.

oves-qanon-claim-retweeted-by-trump-thats-not-what-the-cdc-said/

Twitter removes Q-Anon claim retweeted by trump

As of Monday morning, Twitter had not removed a second tweet, also retweeted by the president, that spread the same false claim. The second tweet, by Trump campaign adviser Jenna Ellis, linked to an article on the right-wing website Gateway Pundit that was based on the QAnon supporter’s tweet.

Trump shared the false information with his 85 million-plus followers.

The CDC’s latest regular update to a public statistics page on the pandemic — there was nothing especially “quiet” about it — said that for 6% of the deaths included in its statistics, “COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned” on the deceased person’s death certificate.

That is not at all the same thing as saying only 6% of reported COVID-19 deaths “actually died” from COVID-19. It simply means that the other 94% were listed as having at least one additional factor contributing to their death.

For example, it includes people who had diabetes or heart disease or who were obese.  People can live with obesity, diabetes or heart disease for years but then get infected with COVID-19 and die quickly. The fact that they also had an underlying condition does not mean that COVID-19 was not a major reason,or the major reason, they died when they did.

 

There is no secret about the fact that pre-existing health conditions can cause people to experience more severe problems from COVID-19. The CDC has long said that older adults and people with other underlying health conditions are more likely to become seriously ill.

Its statistics page currently says that for “deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.”

The CDC told CNN in July that COVID-19 will end up as a Top 10 cause of death for 2020.

 

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At least 182,885 people have died from coronavirus in the United States, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

BS#2- Wheeler said they expected a million people in Germany to see Robert Kennedy Jr.in an anti Globalist rally. Actually there 10's of thousands, quite a leap!

https://usagag.com/tens-of-thousands-of-germans-protest-against-bill-gates-and-big-pharma/

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