Matthew Koch Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: As for Ben Cole extolling Trump's diplomatic skills in comparison with Obama and Biden... 🤥 Like most Trumplicons, Ben still hasn't figured out that Putin's Orange Asset was always an international laughingstock, as Colin Powell said in 2016. Imagine saying this when you voted for Joe Biden? You're quoting Colin Powell?!? I know I was dropped on my head too many times as a child and that's why I support MAGA, lols, But that map of Eastern Ukraine looks a lot like Vietnam and just like Vietnam the Democrats once again don't have an exit strategy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe Bauer said: Have you written a book or books chronicling your incredibly extensive on the ground, first hand eyewitness war experiences and your contemplative war generating world order thoughts such as those shared above? I share many of your views and sentiments. Unlike Chris Hedges, JB, I have no first hand eyewitness war experiences and I hope I never have. I think that like me, you would appreciate the sentiment of The Workers’ Song, sung here by Dick Gaughan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmwHHUsWM_M Come all of you workers Who toil night and day By hand and by brain To earn your pay Who for centuries long past For no more than your bread Have bled for your countries And counted your dead In the factories and mills, In the shipyards and mines We've often been told To keep up with the times For our skills are not needed, They've streamlined the job And with sliderule and stopwatch Our pride they have robbed But when the sky darkens And the prospect is war Who's given a gun And then pushed to the fore And expected to die For the land of our birth Though we've never owned One handful of earth? We're the first ones to starve The first ones to die The first ones in line For that And always the last When the cream is shared out For the worker is working When the fat cat's about All of these things The worker has done From tilling the fields To carrying the gun We've been yoked to the plough Since time first began And always expected To carry the can Edited October 14, 2022 by John Cotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, John Cotter said: Unlike Chris Hedges, JB, I have no first hand eyewitness war experiences and I hope I never have. I think that like me, you would appreciate the sentiment of The Workers’ Song, sung here by Dick Gaughan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmwHHUsWM_M Come all of you workers Who toil night and day By hand and by brain To earn your pay Who for centuries long past For no more than your bread Have bled for your countries And counted your dead In the factories and mills, In the shipyards and mines We've often been told To keep up with the times For our skills are not needed, They've streamlined the job And with sliderule and stopwatch Our pride they have robbed But when the sky darkens And the prospect is war Who's given a gun And then pushed to the fore And expected to die For the land of our birth Though we've never owned One handful of earth? We're the first ones to starve The first ones to die The first ones in line For that And always the last When the cream is shared out For the worker is working When the fat cat's about All of these things The worker has done From tilling the fields To carrying the gun We've been yoked to the plough Since time first began And always expected To carry the can I see. I thought you saw first hand the dead body carnage you describe occurring in all the war zones you cite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said: I see. I thought you saw first hand the dead body carnage you describe occurring in all the war zones you cite. I don't know why you thought that, JB, because I never said anything to suggest it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: John, I can't fix your reading comprehension problems, or your limited knowledge of Russian history. At best, I would suggest that you re-read my commentary about Kotkin and Putin's neo-Soviet agenda more slowly. Beyond Mearsheimer and Jeff Carter's punditry, I'd be curious to see a list of Russian history books that you and Chris Barnard have studied. My hunch is that it's a very short list. As for Ben Cole extolling Trump's diplomatic skills in comparison with Obama and Biden... 🤥 Like most Trumplicons, Ben still hasn't figured out that Putin's Orange Asset was always an international laughingstock, as Colin Powell said in 2016. I'm guessing that Ben also missed the J6 Committee evidence yesterday about Trump's precipitous December 2020 order to rapidly withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan by January 15, 2021. William, Thanks for again validating my argument by failing to logically rebut it and instead going ad hominem and taking irrelevant swipes at other posters. Edited October 14, 2022 by John Cotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Carter Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said: I see. I thought you saw first hand the dead body carnage you describe occurring in all the war zones you cite. Joe - you were responding to the words of Chris Hedges, which John generously shared. Hedges has written numerous books, and his articles are published regularly by Consortium News. He used to host a terrific interview program, which unfortunately was "cancelled" this past spring by the mavens of our diminishing liberal-democracy, and all past episodes deleted from YouTube. Hedges, like Consortium News' founder Robert Parry, once had a Pulitzer Prize winning career within the journalist establishment (NY Times in his case), but displayed too much integrity to remain. https://consortiumnews.com/tag/chris-hedges/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, John Cotter said: William, Thanks for again validating my argument by failing to logically rebut it and instead going ad hominem and taking irrelevant swipes at other posters. Re-read my post, slowly, John. Your entire, imaginary "refutation" of Princeton historian Stephen Kotkin's critique of Mearsheimer hinged on one word, "greatest" (vs. "great") as a description of Russia's imperialist aspirations. I think it can be fairly said that I have experienced Russian culture, for many years, "from the inside." In the process, I have realized that very few Westerners understand Russian culture-- even those who have read Tolstoy and Dostoevsky. I never understood Dostoevsky until I had personally experienced the mystical theology and praxis of Russian Orthodoxy. It is other-- almost like stepping 1,000 years backward in time and place, to the Byzantine Empire. Most anthropologists will know what I'm talking about. Conversely, I think it can be fairly said that your knowledge of Russian history and culture is limited. Are you familiar with the history of the Streltsy, Okhrana, NKVD, KGB, FSB, etc.? With the Slavophile philosophers and literatii? Alexander Dugin has been described as the intellectual Godfather of Putin's neo-Soviet imperialism. Are you familiar with Dugin's work? Edited October 14, 2022 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 This is film of Pelosi 82, and Schumer, (the heads of both houses in Congress). sequestered during 1/6 and asking for help over the phone to evacuate the rioters, and trying to ask the President to ask the rioters to leave and facing what will be passed off as bureaucratic delays! Then finally a phone call with Pence saying the rioters have been cleared and they should be able to proceed with the certification in an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 56 minutes ago, John Cotter said: I don't know why you thought that, JB, because I never said anything to suggest it. Just read your post in a surface way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Matthew Koch said: Has musk talked to Putin in recent days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Matthew Koch said: Headline from today's Washington Post: Musk appeasement of Putin and China stokes fears of new Twitter policies In the past 10 days, he’s suggested that Ukraine give up Crimea and that Taiwan be ruled like Hong Kong. Now he’s threatening Ukraine’s access to his Starlink satellite system, critical to Ukraine’s war effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said: This is film of Pelosi 82, and Schumer, (the heads of both houses in Congress). sequestered during 1/6 and asking for help over the phone to evacuate the rioters, and trying to ask the President to ask the rioters to leave and facing what will be passed off as bureaucratic delays! Then finally a phone call with Pence saying the rioters have been cleared and they should be able to proceed with the certification in an hour. Wow thanks for sharing, that looks like a total nothing burger! Nobody looked like they thought their lives were in danger or any alarmist bs your side has been alleging with this Jan. 6 Soviet Commission. Kirk, CNN really? This is worse than Tim Pool. But then again, I see why Nancy is going to Italy, if you look at her hand in the beginning of this, she is clearly speaking in Italian ; ) This further convinces me that those dummies that Nancy was talking about at the end were set up. It's an INSIDE JOB, Nancy probably unlocked the doors, she has a lot of motive means and opportunity judging by this clip... Edited October 14, 2022 by Matthew Koch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 35 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said: Has musk talked to Putin in recent days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Matthew Koch said: Kremlin praises Musk. Kremlin Praises Elon Musk for Controversial Ukraine War 'Peace Plan' (businessinsider.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Davidson Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Matthew Koch said: Nobody looked like they thought their lives were in danger or any alarmist bs your side has been alleging with this Jan. 6 Soviet Commission. Getting back to reality. https://vimeo.com/760455350 Edited October 14, 2022 by Chris Davidson Add music link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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