The inevitable end result of our last 56 years

[Cliff Varnell]

31 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

We now have excess deaths they are coming from the vaccine and not the Omnicron variant. 

Same thing in 2020.  People died from thinking about getting a vaccine.

Edited November 29, 2022 by Cliff Varnell

[Matthew Koch]

3 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

Same thing in 2020.  People died from thinking about getting a vaccine.

More people with the Vaccine have died.. it shouldn't take a three digit IQ to realize it's not Science like they said it was..

[Matthew Koch]

4 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

Same thing in 2020.  People died from thinking about getting a vaccine.

Your going to just waste everyone's time like with the Diem Coup, Cliff you don't have a different unique take, you just parrot others.. 

[Guest]

I live in a community where 20% opted out of the experimental shots, with their highly questionable safety and efficacy. Ivermectin was one of the treatment protocols via Dr’s. Lots of people took it. We have had zero deaths and zero people in ICU’s and oddly the sickest people had the experimental treatments. This covers all age groups. We do have various people with likely V injuries, or lets say mysterious sudden conditions developing which they’ll now have to live with.
 

This is one occasion I’d rather have been wrong. You can’t educate people in a fear psychosis. 
 

 

[Matthew Koch]

2 minutes ago, Chris Barnard said:

This is one occasion I’d rather have been wrong. You can’t educate people in a fear psychosis. 

 

 

 

Funny that William never talks about this 

[Kirk Gallaway]

Isn't it interesting how the "corporate fan boys'  always end up siding with corporate elites.

November 3: Koch-funded legal group fights to protect online Covid misinformation (CMD News)

A litigation group funded by billionaire Charles Koch is helping support several scientists, who are known for promoting COVID-19 misinformation, in a lawsuit against the Biden administration that is claiming “censorship” regarding their social media posts. Justin Feldman, research associate at the François-Xavier Bagnoud (FXB) Center of Health and Human Rights at Harvard University, said that right-wing organizations, like the group funded by Koch, “want their policies to seem legitimate to the public, so they find scientists who have opinions that are viewed as fringe or discredited by mainstream science.”

 

[Douglas Caddy]

We all know how this will end. Only the time it does remains unanswered. December seems a real possibility.

 

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[W. Niederhut]

46 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

More people with the Vaccine have died.. it shouldn't take a three digit IQ to realize it's not Science like they said it was..

Bunk.

I recently posted the latest CDC mortality data.

Since mid-2021, unvaccinated adults over age 65 had a NINEFOLD increase in "excess" deaths compared to vaccinated adults in the U.S.-- i.e., beyond normal mortality rates.

And Republicans died at almost TWICE the rate of Democrats.

Edited November 29, 2022 by W. Niederhut

[Matthew Koch]

10 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

Isn't it interesting how the "corporate fan boys'  always end up siding with corporate elites.

November 3: Koch-funded legal group fights to protect online Covid misinformation (CMD News)

A litigation group funded by billionaire Charles Koch is helping support several scientists, who are known for promoting COVID-19 misinformation, in a lawsuit against the Biden administration that is claiming “censorship” regarding their social media posts. Justin Feldman, research associate at the François-Xavier Bagnoud (FXB) Center of Health and Human Rights at Harvard University, said that right-wing organizations, like the group funded by Koch, “want their policies to seem legitimate to the public, so they find scientists who have opinions that are viewed as fringe or discredited by mainstream science.”

 

I'm old enough to remember when people who identified as "Liberal" were for free speech.

Can't have democracy without freedom of speech. Great News source btw Kirk! 

[Matthew Koch]

1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said:

Bunk.

I recently posted the latest CDC mortality data.

Since mid-2021, unvaccinated adults over age 65 had a NINEFOLD increase in deaths compared to vaccinated adults in the U.S.

And Republicans died at almost TWICE the rate of Democrats.

You are full of XXXX there is no coroner data based on Political affiliation. You're a quack if you believe your MSNBC talking point 100%, Cite the data William 

Edited November 29, 2022 by Matthew Koch

[Guest]

50 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

You are full of XXXX there is no coroner data based on Political affiliation. Your a quack if you believe your MSNBC talking point 100%, Cite the data William 

We have seen it since the mass V program began, various data prepared to mislead the public. It began by stating Un-V were much more likely to die of C19, using mostly a period of data before the V program had begun. This was exposed in a White House press conference, rather embarrassingly. It was met with silence here. 
 

Next a parameter was decided that people were still unV’d for the first 14 days after their jab. If they lived longer than 14 days they then qualified as fully V’d. So you give a person the treatment, they die suddenly 3 days later and they say the person was unV’d, despite already having 2 injections and going for a third. My observations are that people who had the treatments often seem to have poorly functioning immune systems. This is something that Fauci pointed out before the mass V program began. Antibody Dependant Enhancement (ADE). 
 

You’re bang on about coroners. They’ve been raising the alarm. Blood clot ads now on TV being normalised. The J&J shot was withdrawn, and people here are silent. 
 

Leave the neurotic lemmings, sheep, and big government fan-boys to it. 
 

 

[Douglas Caddy]

Now here is a real mystery.........watch the video

 

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[W. Niederhut]

Almost Twice as Many Republicans Died From COVID Before the Midterms Than Democrats

 

The authors of a new study can’t say if this impacted the midterms, but say that it’s “plausible given just how stark the differences in vaccination rates have been, among Democrats and Republicans.”

 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7vjx8/almost-twice-as-many-republicans-died-from-covid-before-the-midterms-than-democrats

 November 16, 2022

[W. Niederhut]

44 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

From your article: This data is part of an early study and doesn’t paint the whole picture. “Our study has several limitations. First, our mortality data, while detailed and recent, only includes approximately 80 percent of deaths in the US. However, excess death patterns in our data are similar to those in other reliable sources,” the study said. “Second, because we did not have information on an individual’s vaccination status, analyses of the association between vaccination rates and excess deaths relied on county-level vaccination rates. Third, our study is based on data from the only states where we could obtain voter registration information (Florida and Ohio); hence, our results may not generalize to other states.”

 

 

 

There are Lies, There are Damn Lies, there are Statistics and then there is William Niederhut and his #FAKE NEWS

Get a clue, Mathew.  You are committing libel here on the forum-- making false statements that inaccurately impugn the reputation of a forum member.

At what point have you crossed the line for acceptable forum behavior here at the "water cooler?"

I posted this data about COVID mortality rates and party affiliation because you claimed (above) that no one had analyzed COVID mortality data based on party affiliation.  You were wrong.

80% of deaths in this study is a fairly comprehensive U.S. database-- correlating with the epidemiological data from other sources that have clearly documented higher COVID death rates in U.S. counties that voted for Trump.

This isn't surprising, given the way that Trump and Fox News have politicized resistance to proper public health management of the COVID pandemic since 2020.

The CDC mortality data that I posted for you (above) about death rates and vaccination status is a somewhat different issue than party affiliation, per se.  There has been a NINEFOLD increased incidence in excess deaths in unvaccinated adults over age 65 in the U.S. since mid-2021.

Obviously, some Republican voters got vaccinated.

[W. Niederhut]

6 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

No you didn't post data William 

Wrong.  The link to the pdf file/study is contained in the Vice article I posted (above.)

Edited November 29, 2022 by W. Niederhut