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I live in a community where 20% opted out of the experimental shots, with their highly questionable safety and efficacy. Ivermectin was one of the treatment protocols via Dr’s. Lots of people took it. We have had zero deaths and zero people in ICU’s and oddly the sickest people had the experimental treatments. This covers all age groups. We do have various people with likely V injuries, or lets say mysterious sudden conditions developing which they’ll now have to live with.
 

This is one occasion I’d rather have been wrong. You can’t educate people in a fear psychosis. 
 

 

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Isn't it interesting how the "corporate fan boys'  always end up siding with corporate elites.

November 3: Koch-funded legal group fights to protect online Covid misinformation (CMD News)

A litigation group funded by billionaire Charles Koch is helping support several scientists, who are known for promoting COVID-19 misinformation, in a lawsuit against the Biden administration that is claiming “censorship” regarding their social media posts. Justin Feldman, research associate at the François-Xavier Bagnoud (FXB) Center of Health and Human Rights at Harvard University, said that right-wing organizations, like the group funded by Koch, “want their policies to seem legitimate to the public, so they find scientists who have opinions that are viewed as fringe or discredited by mainstream science.”

 
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46 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

More people with the Vaccine have died.. it shouldn't take a three digit IQ to realize it's not Science like they said it was..

Bunk.

I recently posted the latest CDC mortality data.

Since mid-2021, unvaccinated adults over age 65 had a NINEFOLD increase in "excess" deaths compared to vaccinated adults in the U.S.-- i.e., beyond normal mortality rates.

And Republicans died at almost TWICE the rate of Democrats.

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10 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

Isn't it interesting how the "corporate fan boys'  always end up siding with corporate elites.

November 3: Koch-funded legal group fights to protect online Covid misinformation (CMD News)

A litigation group funded by billionaire Charles Koch is helping support several scientists, who are known for promoting COVID-19 misinformation, in a lawsuit against the Biden administration that is claiming “censorship” regarding their social media posts. Justin Feldman, research associate at the François-Xavier Bagnoud (FXB) Center of Health and Human Rights at Harvard University, said that right-wing organizations, like the group funded by Koch, “want their policies to seem legitimate to the public, so they find scientists who have opinions that are viewed as fringe or discredited by mainstream science.”

 

I'm old enough to remember when people who identified as "Liberal" were for free speech.

Can't have democracy without freedom of speech. Great News source btw Kirk! 

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1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said:

Bunk.

I recently posted the latest CDC mortality data.

Since mid-2021, unvaccinated adults over age 65 had a NINEFOLD increase in deaths compared to vaccinated adults in the U.S.

And Republicans died at almost TWICE the rate of Democrats.

You are full of XXXX there is no coroner data based on Political affiliation. You're a quack if you believe your MSNBC talking point 100%, Cite the data William 

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50 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

You are full of XXXX there is no coroner data based on Political affiliation. Your a quack if you believe your MSNBC talking point 100%, Cite the data William 

We have seen it since the mass V program began, various data prepared to mislead the public. It began by stating Un-V were much more likely to die of C19, using mostly a period of data before the V program had begun. This was exposed in a White House press conference, rather embarrassingly. It was met with silence here. 
 

Next a parameter was decided that people were still unV’d for the first 14 days after their jab. If they lived longer than 14 days they then qualified as fully V’d. So you give a person the treatment, they die suddenly 3 days later and they say the person was unV’d, despite already having 2 injections and going for a third. My observations are that people who had the treatments often seem to have poorly functioning immune systems. This is something that Fauci pointed out before the mass V program began. Antibody Dependant Enhancement (ADE). 
 

You’re bang on about coroners. They’ve been raising the alarm. Blood clot ads now on TV being normalised. The J&J shot was withdrawn, and people here are silent. 
 

Leave the neurotic lemmings, sheep, and big government fan-boys to it. 
 

 

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Almost Twice as Many Republicans Died From COVID Before the Midterms Than Democrats

 
The authors of a new study can’t say if this impacted the midterms, but say that it’s “plausible given just how stark the differences in vaccination rates have been, among Democrats and Republicans.”
 

 November 16, 2022

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44 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

From your article: This data is part of an early study and doesn’t paint the whole picture. “Our study has several limitations. First, our mortality data, while detailed and recent, only includes approximately 80 percent of deaths in the US. However, excess death patterns in our data are similar to those in other reliable sources,” the study said. “Second, because we did not have information on an individual’s vaccination status, analyses of the association between vaccination rates and excess deaths relied on county-level vaccination rates. Third, our study is based on data from the only states where we could obtain voter registration information (Florida and Ohio); hence, our results may not generalize to other states.”

 

 

 

There are Lies, There are Damn Lies, there are Statistics and then there is William Niederhut and his #FAKE NEWS

Get a clue, Mathew.  You are committing libel here on the forum-- making false statements that inaccurately impugn the reputation of a forum member.

At what point have you crossed the line for acceptable forum behavior here at the "water cooler?"

I posted this data about COVID mortality rates and party affiliation because you claimed (above) that no one had analyzed COVID mortality data based on party affiliation.  You were wrong.

80% of deaths in this study is a fairly comprehensive U.S. database-- correlating with the epidemiological data from other sources that have clearly documented higher COVID death rates in U.S. counties that voted for Trump.

This isn't surprising, given the way that Trump and Fox News have politicized resistance to proper public health management of the COVID pandemic since 2020.

The CDC mortality data that I posted for you (above) about death rates and vaccination status is a somewhat different issue than party affiliation, per se.  There has been a NINEFOLD increased incidence in excess deaths in unvaccinated adults over age 65 in the U.S. since mid-2021.

Obviously, some Republican voters got vaccinated.

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Well, finally some good news. Even the NYT says Julian Assange should not be prosecuted. Will the Biden Administration see the light? 

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Leading media outlets urge U.S. to end prosecution of Julian Assange

By Kanishka Singh

WASHINGTON, Nov 28 (Reuters) - The United States should end its prosecution of Julian Assange, leading media outlets from the United States and Europe that had collaborated with the WikiLeaks founder said on Monday, citing press freedom concerns.

"This indictment sets a dangerous precedent, and threatens to undermine America's First Amendment and the freedom of the press," editors and publishers of the Guardian, the New York Times, Le Monde, Der Spiegel, and El País said in an open letter.

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Oh, you think?

One of the ugliest prosecutions ever of a true journalist...is still going on. 

Add on: Beijing put pro-democracy Hong Kong publisher Jimmy Lai behind bars about a year ago. For publishing news. 

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Not just Biden, but any US president would fist-bump with MbS and shake hands with President Xi, as Biden recently has. 

Makes you wonder....

 

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2 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Get a clue, Mathew.  You are committing libel here on the forum-- making false statements that inaccurately impugn the reputation of a forum member.

At what point have you crossed the line for acceptable forum behavior here at the "water cooler?"

I posted this data about COVID mortality rates and party affiliation because you claimed (above) that no one had analyzed COVID mortality data based on party affiliation.  You were wrong.

80% of deaths in this study is a fairly comprehensive U.S. database-- correlating with the epidemiological data from other sources that have clearly documented higher COVID death rates in U.S. counties that voted for Trump.

This isn't surprising, given the way that Trump and Fox News have politicized resistance to proper public health management of the COVID pandemic since 2020.

The CDC mortality data that I posted for you (above) about death rates and vaccination status is a somewhat different issue than party affiliation, per se.  There has been a NINEFOLD increased incidence in excess deaths in unvaccinated adults over age 65 in the U.S. since mid-2021.

Obviously, some Republican voters got vaccinated.

William,

I’ve already posted a video by Irish researcher Ivor Cummins in which he presents an analysis of the official Irish covid statistics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKpnLda6hS4

The official number of “covid deaths” for the years 2020 and 2021 usually cited is 7,397 (out of a total population of about five million). However, only 153 of those deaths were from covid alone, where there were no co-morbidities.

Moreover, only 61 of those covid-only deaths occurred in 2020 before the “vaccines” were rolled out and at a time when one might have expected the vast majority of those most covid-vulnerable to die.

This statistic alone blows the official covid narrative out of the water. The lethal covid pandemic which the authorities claimed existed was a fabrication, a scam, a psyop which was used to frighten and stampede the masses into submitting to a fascistic regime involving stripping them of many of their freedoms, isolating them by lockdowns, dehumanising them by mask mandates, segregating them by jab mandates, censoring and punishing dissent and vilifying and scapegoating dissenters.

The larger “covid-deaths” figure of 7,397 which includes co-morbidities is a red herring, if only for the reason that the most lethal and common “co-morbidity” by far where covid is concerned is old age.

Of course, old age is not officially counted as a co-morbidity. But since the vast majority of the 7,397 who died with/from covid were old and had co-morbidities, and since we know that there are many co-morbidities which are particularly lethal for the old, the 7,397 figure is largely meaningless for the purpose of assessing the impact of covid.

This is borne out by fact that the average age of death with/from covid is, as Chris has mentioned, higher than the average age of death for the population generally.

I’ve also previously mentioned Professor of Mathematics and Statistics in Queen Mary University London, Norman Fenton, whose experience and credentials in this field are second to none. He has carried out extensive analyses of the official British covid statistics and has found that the covid mortality figures are totally unreliable and greatly exaggerated and that there is no reliable evidence supporting the efficacy or safety of covid “vaccines”.

He explains this clearly and cogently in this recent interview:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/#inbox/FMfcgzGrbHnhBHlcSrNPwdkQvbgtRRXv

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Ben:I find plenty of comments offensive in the water cooler section...but that is small price to pay for free speech, and finding out how other people really think. 
 
Plenty of offensive comments Ben? And you've had no hand in this?  Really? Ben repetitively makes that point  that some of the interplay here is offensive and then portrays himself as such strong free speech advocate, he can put up with the slings and arrows. Of course he's mentioning it!
 
This is so completely phony.  For 2 years, Ben would portray himself as being a devil's advocate but truth is he just said the same things over and over again, and never really listened to anyone and when told of his repetition, his attitude was just to hell with everybody. "I'm just going to keep saying the same things. It's my right to free speech!", and then when he's called on his accuracy, he's the first to whine, like people are infringing on his rights!. 
 
Ben initially was pulled into the great group of Trump sheep, and he re entered the real world of people here, who  unlike himself were never fooled for a second by Trump.
 
When Trump would  create news, we'd update each other on Trumps antics trials and litigations to inform one another, and that somehow incited an agitated defense mechanism in Ben to respond with repetitive "whataboutism"  posts involving the Dems or Donks!, the Globalists!, the NSS!, the MSM, the "Deep State ", Liz Cheney, HC, Pelosi, Biden, all  to sort of cry out  and say "See, you guys aren't so smart!" Striking back at us to cover his embarrassment at getting sucked into the Trump moronic drivel message.
 
This drama has been going on totally inside you Ben!. You have no right to complain at all. You couldn't be bothered  to listen or accommodate anyone else and you've gotten your just deserts! Stop crying "noble free speech victim."
 
 
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