Matthew Koch Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said: Factually incorrect. The back wound was in soft tissue to the right of T3. There was a slight crack in the right T1 transverse process, as well as an air-pocket overlaying the right C/7 - T1 transverse processes. This is from the throat shot. You should read the original documents. You're most likely right about the throat shot. I just went back and rewatched this clip and I was wrong it is T1. I remembered this clip had the cracked vertebra but I did just assume it was T3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Reagan closed the mental hospitals back in the 80s, thus starting the homelessness crisis in America. https://www.nytimes.com/1984/10/30/science/how-release-of-mental-patients-began.html A huge amount of the homeless in America are veterans of the wars fought by the U.S. The way these people are treated is a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said: There was a slight crack in the right T1 transverse process, as well as an air-pocket overlaying the right C/7 - T1 transverse processes. This is from the throat shot. Can you elaborate on this Cliff? If the crack is in the right side, might the throat shot have come from his left? I.E., maybe the south knoll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: Can you elaborate on this Cliff? If the crack is in the right side, might the throat shot have come from his left? I.E., maybe the south knoll? Possibly! Location is subject to speculation. What’s not subject to guess-work is the fact he had two entrance wounds in soft tissue with no exits and no bullets recovered at autopsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Two is damning too with no exit wounds. An aspect of my original question. Shame this will get buried here so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said: Can you elaborate on this Cliff? If the crack is in the right side, might the throat shot have come from his left? I.E., maybe the south knoll? Ron, I've been to Dealey Plaza twice. I think the location lines up better with the tunnel walkway under the overpass on the south side or with one of the parked cars that are parked along the same area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said: First of all, let me congratulate you and admire you for your work in the mid-1990s in treating homeless mentally troubled individuals. I am glad to know the program worked. Yes, probably it was expensive. Housing in Los Angeles now runs at $2000 for a studio apartment, so you can imagine the costs involved, even before hiring a good onsite manager. They say simple conversation is a great help to people, and also feeling useful. I imagine in a group home, there is more conversation. I do not know how to make people feel useful. I always advocate exercise and good diet. But I am just a layman. Perhaps people in such homes could assemble medical kits for poor nations, or take care of overflows from city animal shelters and so on. Life in modern America is taking a toll on the citizenry, particularly young men. Bingo, Bravo, Right On! To WN for his incredible commitment and effort to such a humanitarian and extremely difficult and frustrating cause. To BC for his sincere praise for WN and his efforts and sympathy for those afflicted. There is a You Tube site titled " Soft White Underbelly" that delves into the world of drug addiction, homelessness, mental illness and every other form of human character affliction and disfunction. It's a stark look into the tragic side of America. The documentarian's interviews of these people are mesmerizing. He gives these people a chance to tell their stories. Without judgment or condescension. It's often easy to judge homeless or drug addicted people negatively. Many of them really are bad character people. Dangerous and preying on their own. Selfishly taking and never giving back. But that is just one part of this issue. Most homeless are not dangerous victimizing thugs. Yes, some are. But in my lifetime experience I think that 75 to 80% are not. Hundreds of thousands of homeless live out of a car. You don't see them on the street. No one can afford these rents here in California. It will take a huge budget and commitment "war effort" to seriously bring this situation to anything close to eliminating it. I don't think the entire societal will to do this is there though. There are many, many reasons America is seeing millions of homeless. IMO there are two reasons specific to California where I live that stand out. I am reluctant to express these because some will label them as socialist or racist. The rents here in California are criminally high imo. A very small percentage of people in California own most of the residential rental property. There is a gold rush going on here where this small group is making gold strikes because they make so much money in astronomical rental fees. For the common good ( the majority of Californians are renters and with one primary property owners a huge majority) we need legislative reform that would make it so difficult to own more than your own single residential property and at the same time make it easier for renters to buy a home. Even with government down payment assistance. This proposal would be fought against by the wealthy rental property owners like it was WW II all over again and the enemy is the millions of people who have been held down for decades and are being stressed to breaking points regards rent being higher than their entire take home pay incomes. And any legislative representative promoting their one home seeking cause. Another reason is unchecked illegal immigration. Tens of millions of illegals pouring into our country and especially California. I understand their life and death desire for a better life here than Mexico and the other Central American countries. Yet, these new millions all need housing. They keep the supply and demand for housing so one-sided in favor of the rental property owners that there just isn't enough housing to offer to not just the homeless, but the entire huge and growing population of low income residents. They pay the high rents even if it means 10 to 12 live in one rental house or apartment. So, we build another two million new housing units ( not $500,000 dollar cost ones ) then what? With unchecked immigration and millions still flooding in...the demand for rental housing will never abate. They'll need millions more. Population control is probably going to have to be seriously considered and confronted to end the ever growing demand problem...imo anyways. Edited December 1, 2022 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 I'll delete this post as soon as I get info on how to change my member profile "photo." The two info threads below don't seem to be accessible anymore. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 The economic laws of supply and demand would seem to indicate that California needs to build more homes. Big state with a lot of empty space; seems doable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 57 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: The economic laws of supply and demand would seem to indicate that California needs to build more homes. Big state with a lot of empty space; seems doable to me. 1. Property zoning. I like to say there are no atheists in foxholes, and no libertarians or progressives when neighborhood property zoning is under review. 2. Sure, big state. I happen to love desert scenery. Can you make a living in Imperial County? Enjoy blistering heat? Most people want to live along the ocean (perfect weather, btw). Sad to say, California should have declared nationhood and pulled up the drawbridges around 1960. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Egads. NY Times asleep. New York Post in a coma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said: . Property zoning. I like to say there are no atheists in foxholes, and no libertarians or progressives when neighborhood property zoning is under review. Where I live, the majority of city council members are rental property owners! In Monterey recently, every one! Rental property owners are so aggressive in protecting their interests. I was told by someone high up in Water management that the main force against building new housing ( at least in our area ) was the wealthy that own rental property. They don't want to lose the incredible one-sided supply and demand advantage they have in rental property. That demand keeps their ability to charge higher than take home pay rental fees and 25 page 100% landlord favoring lease agreements intact. These rental property owners know where the power is in this game. City, county and state government. Studio apartments are $2,000 a month here. For each added bedrooms add $300 to $500 more a month. A $16 an hour full time job pays $2,000 a month take home. Not even enough to pay the rent, let alone water, utilities, food, transportation ( car repair, upkeep, registration, insurance and gas ) health care, clothing, etc. etc. In the 1950's and 60's and even 1970's, the federal government General Services department actually issued cost of living advice which stated that American citizens ideally should not pay more than 1/3rd of their take home pay on housing. To keep to that healthy living housing budget advice today...the typical Californian would have to earn at least 6,000 dollars take home pay a month. $45 to $50 an hour! And people wonder why the homeless problem is exploding? The cost of basic living in California versus wages for 65% of it's working or fixed income citizens is actually a real "Public Health" crisis. It's stressing millions in unprecedented ways. Doing without other basic needs, never ending mental worry and anxiety with related health problems day in and day out for years. Young people by the millions ( even 30 to 40 year olds ) can't even afford apartments on their own and have to live back with their parents. Young people are not marrying and having kids because of the unprecedented imbalance of job pay versus rent. Unaffordable housing on this scale and for decades now has had massive societal impact...in the worst possible ways. Edited December 1, 2022 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 DeSantis’ chief of staff and public safety czar added to migrant lawsuit (occupydemocrats.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) On 11/30/2022 at 7:15 PM, Matt Allison said: Reagan closed the mental hospitals back in the 80s, thus starting the homelessness crisis in America. Reagan did this back around 1970. Yes, absolutely one of the initial homeless causes in California. Many of those mental patients were shuttled into apartment houses converted into residences/shelters. I worked in one in Santa Monica back in 1972. Almost all failed and reverted back into separate residence apartments. Edited December 5, 2022 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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