Jump to content
The Education Forum

The inevitable end result of our last 56 years


Recommended Posts

3 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

Can you elaborate on this Cliff?  If the crack is in the right side, might the throat shot have come from his left?  I.E., maybe the south knoll?

Possibly!  

Location is subject to speculation.

What’s not subject to guess-work is the fact he had two entrance wounds in soft tissue with no exits and no bullets recovered at autopsy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 16.5k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Douglas Caddy

    1887

  • Benjamin Cole

    1770

  • W. Niederhut

    1526

  • Steve Thomas

    1510

1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:

Can you elaborate on this Cliff?  If the crack is in the right side, might the throat shot have come from his left?  I.E., maybe the south knoll?

Ron, I've been to Dealey Plaza twice. I think the location lines up better with the tunnel walkway under the overpass on the south side or with one of the parked cars that are parked along the same area. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

First of all, let me congratulate you and admire you for your work in the mid-1990s in treating homeless mentally troubled individuals. 

I am glad to know the program worked. Yes, probably it was expensive.

Housing in Los Angeles now runs at $2000 for a studio apartment, so you can imagine the costs involved, even before hiring a good onsite manager. 

They say simple conversation is a great help to people, and also feeling useful. I imagine in a group home, there is more conversation. I do not know how to make people feel useful.

I always advocate exercise and good diet. But I am just a layman. 

Perhaps people in such homes could assemble medical kits for poor nations, or take care of overflows from city animal shelters and so on. 

Life in modern America is taking a toll on the citizenry, particularly young men. 

 

 

 

Bingo, Bravo, Right On!

To WN for his incredible commitment and effort to such a humanitarian and extremely difficult and frustrating cause.

To BC for his sincere praise for WN and his efforts and sympathy for those afflicted.

There is a You Tube site titled " Soft White Underbelly" that delves into the world of drug addiction, homelessness, mental illness and every other form of human character affliction and disfunction.

It's a stark look into the tragic side of America.

The documentarian's interviews of these people are mesmerizing. He gives these people a chance to tell their stories. Without judgment or condescension.

It's often easy to judge homeless or drug addicted people negatively.
Many of them really are bad character people. Dangerous and preying on their own. Selfishly taking and never giving back. 

But that is just one part of this issue.

Most homeless are not dangerous victimizing thugs. Yes, some are.

But in my lifetime experience I think that 75 to 80% are not. Hundreds of thousands of homeless live out of a car. You don't see them on the street.

No one can afford these rents here in California.

It will take a huge budget and commitment "war effort" to seriously bring this situation to anything close to eliminating it. I don't think the entire societal will to do this is there though.

There are many, many reasons America is seeing millions of homeless. IMO there are two reasons specific to California where I live that stand out.  I am reluctant to express these because some will label them as socialist or racist.

The rents here in California are criminally high imo. A very small percentage of people in California own most of the residential rental property. There is a gold rush going on here where this small group is making gold strikes because they make so much money in astronomical rental fees.

For the common good ( the majority of Californians are renters and with one primary property owners a huge majority) we need legislative reform that would make it so difficult to own more than your own single residential property and at the same time make it easier for renters to buy a home. Even with government down payment assistance.

This proposal would be fought against by the wealthy rental property owners like it was WW II all over again and the enemy is the millions of people who have been held down for decades and are being stressed to breaking points regards rent being higher than their entire take home pay incomes. And any legislative representative promoting their one home seeking cause.

Another reason is unchecked illegal immigration.

Tens of millions of illegals pouring into our country and especially California.

I understand their life and death desire for a better life here than Mexico and the other Central American countries.

Yet, these new millions all need housing. They keep the supply and demand for housing so one-sided in favor of the rental property owners that there just isn't enough housing to offer to not just the homeless, but the entire huge and growing population of low income residents.

They pay the high rents even if it means 10 to 12 live in one rental house or apartment.

So, we build another two million new housing units ( not $500,000 dollar cost ones ) then what?

With unchecked immigration and millions still flooding in...the demand for rental housing will never abate. They'll need millions more.

Population control is probably going to have to be seriously considered and confronted to end the ever growing demand problem...imo anyways.

 

Edited by Joe Bauer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

57 minutes ago, Matt Allison said:

The economic laws of supply and demand would seem to indicate that California needs to build more homes.

Big state with a lot of empty space; seems doable to me.

1. Property zoning. I like to say there are no atheists in foxholes, and no libertarians or progressives when neighborhood property zoning is under review. 

2. Sure, big state. I happen to love desert scenery. Can you make a living in Imperial County? Enjoy blistering heat? Most people want to live along the ocean (perfect weather, btw). 

Sad to say, California should have declared nationhood and pulled up the drawbridges around 1960. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

. Property zoning. I like to say there are no atheists in foxholes, and no libertarians or progressives when neighborhood property zoning is under review. 

Where I live, the majority of city council members are rental property owners!

In Monterey recently, every one!

Rental property owners are so aggressive in protecting their interests.

I was told by someone high up in Water management that the main force against building new housing ( at least in our area ) was the wealthy that own rental property.

They don't want to lose the incredible one-sided supply and demand advantage they have in rental property. 

That demand keeps their ability to charge higher than take home pay rental fees and 25 page 100% landlord favoring lease agreements intact.

These rental property owners know where the power is in this game. City, county and state government. 

Studio apartments are $2,000 a month here. For each added bedrooms add $300 to $500 more a month.

A $16 an hour full time job pays $2,000 a month take home.

Not even enough to pay the rent, let alone water, utilities, food, transportation ( car repair, upkeep, registration, insurance and gas ) health care, clothing, etc. etc.

In the 1950's and 60's and even 1970's, the federal government General Services department actually issued cost of living advice which stated that American citizens ideally should not pay more than 1/3rd of their take home pay on housing.

To keep to that healthy living housing budget advice today...the typical Californian would have to earn at least 6,000 dollars take home pay a month. $45 to $50 an hour!

And people wonder why the homeless problem is exploding?

The cost of basic living in California versus wages for 65% of it's working or fixed income citizens is actually a real "Public Health" crisis.

It's stressing millions in unprecedented ways.

Doing without other basic needs, never ending mental worry and anxiety with related health problems day in and day out for years. Young people by the millions ( even 30 to 40 year olds ) can't even afford apartments on their own and have to live back with their parents.

Young people are not marrying and having kids because of the unprecedented imbalance of job pay versus rent.

Unaffordable housing on this scale and for decades now has had massive societal impact...in the worst possible ways.

 

 

 

Edited by Joe Bauer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 11/30/2022 at 7:15 PM, Matt Allison said:

Reagan closed the mental hospitals back in the 80s, thus starting the homelessness crisis in America.

Reagan did this back around 1970.

Yes, absolutely one of the initial homeless causes in California. Many of those mental patients were shuttled into apartment houses converted into residences/shelters.

I worked in one in Santa Monica back in 1972.

Almost all failed and reverted back into separate residence apartments.

Edited by Joe Bauer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

I didn’t say anything about mandates — which proves my point about Fascists and their fictions.

In the US it was Gov’t employees and health care workers who faced mandates without exceptions.

That’s a snowflake’s idea of tyranny.

Another ginned up fiction.

Can’t help yourself?

Cliff, Covid effectiveness from your Jab wanes after 4 months

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/11/health/covid-booster-effectiveness-safety-cdc

 

Now the CDC is recommending a shot every two months, LOL! 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/stay-up-to-date.html

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sometimes I have to laugh at myself.

Recently, there has been a lot of local press warning about a looming triple-demic-- RSV + COVID + flu.

So, I went out and got a flu shot and COVID/Omicron booster yesterday, partly in response to my wife badgering me about the triple-demic.

Woke up this morning feeling lousy and, when I read the Denver Post, one of the lead stories was an article saying that the triple-demic may not turn out to be as severe as predicted.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

41 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Cliff, Covid effectiveness from your Jab wanes after 4 months

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/11/health/covid-booster-effectiveness-safety-cdc

That’s well known, so what?

41 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

 

Now the CDC is recommending a shot every two months, LOL! 

Double check your reading on that.

Updated Boosters Are Recommended for Some People

CDC recommends that people ages 5 years and older receive one updated (bivalent) booster if it has been at least 2 months since their last COVID-19 vaccine dose, whether that was:

  • Their final primary series dose, or
  • An original (monovalent) booster

People who have gotten more than one original (monovalent) booster are also recommended to get an updated (bivalent) booster. </q>

It doesn’t say every two months.

41 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Death rates in Africa were significantly lower pre-vaccination.

Coronavirus in Africa: Five reasons why Covid-19 has been less deadly than elsewhere

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54418613

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Please sign in to comment

You will be able to leave a comment after signing in



Sign In Now
 Share


×
×
  • Create New...