W. Niederhut Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) Earth to Mathew Koch's alternate MAGA-verse... Are you guys still getting your "news" from Zero Hedge? 🤥 Democrat Destroys GOP Lies About Hunter Biden's 'Laptop' | Crooks and XXXXX Jim Jordan Makes A Case Against Himself At Twitter Hearing | Crooks and XXXXX Edited February 8, 2023 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: Earth to Mathew Koch's alternate MAGA-verse... Are you guys still getting your "news" from Zero Hedge? The USG already designated ZH a Russian propaganda site quite a while ago; and it's easy to spot the moment you go to the page. It's a favorite fake-news site for the MAGA/Kremlin stooges, as well as every overweight, angry, racist, middle-aged white guy you can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said: Chief GOP Architect of the sun setting of Social Security and Medicare, Rick Scott from Florida. Here's a guy I highly recommend to you, Matthew to glom onto. He's done a lot of acid! ******** Russiagate was and is a giant combination farce/mirage. The press thought HRC would win and when she did not, they reaped revenge with her help. https://t.co/GweEmfeeIp — James DiEugenio (@jimmydie1963) February 8, 2023 Yeah for all Ukraine peace lovers, Jim was heavily in favor of Putin's invasion of Crimea. But I guess that's cool! From what i saw, All of Jim's political views were virtually identical to Oliver Stone for 7 years. But at least we got a good film out of it. Kirk- The fact that Russiagate was a hoax, does not make Putin a nice guy. Many people recognize the gossamer of fantasy called Russiagate, and yet despise Putin as a war criminal. Modern Donks seem to demand that adherents (and media allies) march lock-step, their thinking caps trod underfoot, towards party salvation. A lot like...the 'Phants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Matthew Koch said: 24 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: The USG already designated ZH a Russian propaganda site quite a while ago; and it's easy to spot the moment you go to the page. It's a favorite fake-news site for the MAGA/Kremlin stooges, as well as every overweight, angry, racist, middle-aged white guy you can think of. I was sharing it for the twitter links and to t-roll the BlueAnon TDS forum members that believe in debunked flat earth Russian conspiracy theories🙈🙉🙊 Edited February 9, 2023 by Matthew Koch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 'This is insane': Experts hammer Kevin McCarthy for letting George Santos attend classified China briefing By David Badash, February 8, 2023https://www.rawstory.com/this-is-insane-experts-hammer-kevin-mccarthy-for-letting-george-santos-attend-classified-china-briefing/ "Just last month Speaker McCarthy banned two top House Democrats, Eric Swalwell and Adam Schiff, from returning to the Intelligence Committee. While he claimed it was for national security reasons, some believe it was retribution for their roles in prosecuting Donald Trump’s impeachments. “I cannot put partisan loyalty ahead of national security, and I cannot simply recognize years of service as the sole criteria for membership on this essential committee. Integrity matters more,” McCarthy wrote in a letter. Retired U.S. Naval War College professor Tom Nichols, an academic specialist on international affairs including Russia, nuclear weapons, and national security affairs, tweeted: “This is insane.”" Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Take a Bow, Columbia Journalism Review The venerable watchdog publication breaks legacy media ranks with a massive rebuke of Trump-Russia coverage. Interview with the report's dogged author, Jeff Gerth MATT TAIBBI FEB 8 ∙ PREVIEW SAVE The Columbia Journalism Review stunned many last Monday by publishing “The Press Versus the President,” a 24,000-word autopsy of press coverage in the Trump years, focusing on the the Trump-Russia collusion scandal colloquially known as “Russiagate.” The piece was written by Jeff Gerth, a long-serving New York Times writer who is as credentialed as they come in the legacy press, having among other things won a Pulitzer Prize in 1999 (for reporting, incidentally, not commentary or public service). In retirement at the start of the Trump years, Gerth watched with growing alarm as venerable institutions like the Times and the Washington Post continually made high-stakes assertions in headlines that appeared based on thin or uncheckable sourcing. The pile of such stories was already stacked to skyscraper height, and commemorated by awards like a joint Times-Post Pulitzer, when Special Counsel Robert Mueller wrapped up an investigation of the matter without indicting Trump or anyone else for the supposed conspiracy. There was no way for Mueller’s probe to have ended the way it did and for years of “worse than Watergate” news reports about Trump-Russian collusion to be true, so Gerth went back to the beginning in search of the real story of what, if anything, went wrong on the coverage side. The result is a long, almost book-length compendium of errors and editorial overreach. It could have been longer. Gerth focused on the would-be investigative reports at papers like the Times and the Post that drove Russiagate, mostly leaving alone the less serious players at cable news and at online journals whose main contribution was making the click-bomb bigger. A brief note on some issues that were already popping up as problems in the media business heading into 2016-2017, and which are important subtext to Gerth’s piece ---30--- Belief in the veracity of the Russiagate allegations or conjectures...is not warranted. Is Gerth yet another Russian-stooge mouthpiece? Like the JFKA, the Russiagate episode is another reminder to stay skeptical regarding M$M coverage---even more so today than in the 1960s. In addition, the Twittergate coverage by Taibbi, and many other serious journalists, has revealed the whole Russian bots-trolls influencing the 2016 election is also a hollow story. Earnest citizens were ID'ed as trolls, by the federal government, for being Trump supporters. Rachel Maddow may chortle with Senator Schumer that the CIA has seven ways to Sunday to wreck a US president, and laugh out loud when it happens. That's fine, she and Schumer are partisans. But should the intel state be re-arranging domestic politics to their liking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said: Belief in the veracity of the Russiagate allegations or conjectures...is not warranted. And which allegations or conjectures are you referring to? Be specific. Fact: Trump's campaign manager passed info via a cutout to the KGB. Seems important... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) Well, since posting facts for Ben is, obviously, pointless-- like singing to a mule-- I thought I would post a terrific old song for Ben, instead. Ben's favorite word is, "Donk," and the song is The Donkey Serenade, from 1936, based on a melody by the 19th century composer Rudolf Firmi. I used to listen to this recording on one of my mother's old 78 rpm records when I was a boy. Now we have YouTube. It premiered in the 1937 film, The Firefly, featuring the lovely Jeanette MacDonald, and was sung quite brilliantly by the little known Welsh American tenor, Alan Jones. I think Woody Allen included this recording in the soundtrack of his movie, Radio Days, but I'd have to check. Worth a listen. Edited February 9, 2023 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said: Well, since posting facts for Ben is, obviously, pointless-- like singing to a mule-- I thought I would post a terrific old song for Ben, instead. Ben's favorite word is, "Donk," and the song is The Donkey Serenade, from 1936, based on a melody by the 19th century composer Rudolf Firmi. I used to listen to this recording on one of my mother's old 78 rpm records when I was a boy. Now we have YouTube. It premiered in the 1937 film, The Firefly, featuring the lovely Jeanette MacDonald, and was sung quite brilliantly by the little known Welsh American tenor, Alan Jones. I think Woody Allen included this recording in the soundtrack of his movie, Radio Days, but I'd have to check. Worth a listen. Funny! Thanks. Think about it. JFK was a teen when this came out. Media then - now. Edited February 9, 2023 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Bombshell: Trump had FBI restart COINTELPRO-type ops https://www.democracynow.org/2023/2/7/alphabet_boys_podcast_fbi_subterfuge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said: Well, since posting facts for Ben is, obviously, pointless-- like singing to a mule-- I thought I would post a terrific old song for Ben, instead. Ben's favorite word is, "Donk," and the song is The Donkey Serenade, from 1936, based on a melody by the 19th century composer Rudolf Firmi. I used to listen to this recording on one of my mother's old 78 rpm records when I was a boy. Now we have YouTube. It premiered in the 1937 film, The Firefly, featuring the lovely Jeanette MacDonald, and was sung quite brilliantly by the little known Welsh American tenor, Alan Jones. I think Woody Allen included this recording in the soundtrack of his movie, Radio Days, but I'd have to check. Worth a listen. I've still got a few of my dad/uncles 78 rpm's. A few of Luke the Drifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt Allison said: And which allegations or conjectures are you referring to? Be specific. Fact: Trump's campaign manager passed info via a cutout to the KGB. Seems important... Wait...a charge or accusation has to be specific. Not a defense. Anyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law on specific charges which have been proven to a jury's satisfaction. "Trumpers were pals with Russian intel cutouts," is not a legal charge. It is charged that Manafort gave private-sector campaign polling results, in limited or detailed form, to Kilimnik. Kilimnik may or may not be an asset of the FSB (the KGB was disbanded in 1991, although I guess people still speak shorthand for "Russian intel" with "KGB"). Kilimnik was working for Peripaska, a Russian billionaire, who Manafort was bilking in some way. Even if private-sector polling data was useful (off by 20 points in 2016), so what? This means...what is the crime? Did Manafort know Kilimnik was possibly a Russian intel asset? Or just a Derispaka factotum to keep happy? Was national security compromised? I have little doubt Manafort planned to grift Deripaska further, and anyone within Manafort's orbit. Manafort was charged with not registering as a foreign agent, tax dodging and loan doc-fraud. I think there were obstruction of justice charges. He was found guilty in a court of law, and sent to prison. Good. This was Russiagate? Private-sector campaign polling results given to a private-sector actor in Russia, who may or may not have been an FSB asset? Calling Carter Page.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said: I've still got a few of my dad/uncles 78 rpm's. A few of Luke the Drifter. A true classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Enjoy watching AOC shred Twitter execs and MAGA talking points: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) I am a human being. I am not a Chatbot. And what are we going to when Chatbots start talking to each other and insulting each other's mothers? Chatbot http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatbot Politics Edit See also: Government by algorithm § AI politicians In New Zealand, the chatbot SAM – short for Semantic Analysis Machine[55] (made by Nick Gerritsen of Touchtech[56]) – has been developed. It is designed to share its political thoughts, for example on topics such as climate change, healthcare and education, etc. It talks to people through Facebook Messenger.[57][58][59][60] In 2022, the chatbot "Leader Lars" or "Leder Lars" was nominated for The Synthetic Party to run in the Danish parliamentary election,[61] and was built by the artist collective Computer Lars.[62] Leader Lars differed from earlier virtual politicians by leading a political party and by not pretending to be an objective candidate.[63] This chatbot engaged in critical discussions on politics with users from around the world.[64] In India, the state government has launched a chatbot for its Aaple Sarkar platform,[65] which provides conversational access to information regarding public services managed.[66][67] Tay, an AI chatbot that learns from previous interaction, caused major controversy due to it being targeted by internet trolls on Twitter. The bot was exploited, and after 16 hours began to send extremely offensive Tweets to users. This suggests that although the bot learned effectively from experience, adequate protection was not put in place to prevent misuse.[74] If a text-sending algorithm can pass itself off as a human instead of a chatbot, its message would be more credible. Therefore, human-seeming chatbots with well-crafted online identities could start scattering fake news that seems plausible, for instance making false claims during an election. With enough chatbots, it might be even possible to achieve artificial social proof.[75][76] Steve Thomas maybe Edited February 9, 2023 by Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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