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I read an article today that said that this military flap will not change any of Trumps base.

The article said that since the military is 43% black; if given the choice of preserving the power structure that comes with the white Christian heritage that settled this country, or supporting the troops, Trump's base will turn their back on the military.

God, guns and Trump, you know.

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Armed showdown at Churchill Downs?

Have you seen the reports ( with images) of opposing black and white heavily armed militia looking political protest groups both converging on Kentucky's Churchill Downs race track during the Kentucky derby today?

It's almost surreal in it's ominous threat connotations!

Look at the full military combat dress and weaponry these groups have adorned themselves with!

High powered automatic rifles, bullet proof vests, fatigues, waiters, gloves...???

It looks like a movie set scene where a full military civil war type confrontation is about to take place.

How much closer to actual violence is this meet up encouraging? With all that deadly and powerful weaponry facing each other...one nut case firing could trigger a battle with hundreds dead and wounded?

The feds should stop this buildup immediately. They should be sending troops in to calm and disburse such a battle ready and risky situation like this?

Trump obviously doesn't think stopping these build ups before they explode is necessary. But he is wrong. It is not irrational to wonder if he wants this kind of confrontation to occur to scare tens of millions of citizens into such fear, they will blindly vote for the most law and order claiming party and candidates, which is always the Republicans.

What crazy, chaotic, dangerous times we are in...TRUMP times.

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20 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

I read an article today that said that this military flap will not change any of Trumps base.

The article said that since the military is 43% black; if given the choice of preserving the power structure that comes with the white Christian heritage that settled this country, or supporting the troops, Trump's base will turn their back on the military.

God, guns and Trump, you know.

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The picture reminds me of the song that Paul Newman sang in the movie Cool Hand Luke: 

 

Plastic Jesus shelters me,

For His head comes off, you see

He's hollow, and I use Him for a flask.

Plastic Jesus plastic Jesus,
Riding on the dashboard of my car ...
Ride with me and have a dram
Of the blood of the Lamb -
Plastic Jesus is a holy bar.

 

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18 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

I read an article today that said that this military flap will not change any of Trumps base.

The article said that since the military is 43% black; if given the choice of preserving the power structure that comes with the white Christian heritage that settled this country, or supporting the troops, Trump's base will turn their back on the military.

 

Right.  Because too few of Trump's "patriots" actually served, over the last few generations.  If they had, they might have learned some respect for other races.  Still, one had counted on some militaristic support among them.

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Another Trump action that is slipping by while we're talking about the confrontation between fascist and anti fascists is that I assume people are counting on either continuing to collect social security or to some day collect it. Trump's now proposing the elimination of the payroll tax that will make the Social Security trust fund run out in 3 years -2023!  As it stands right now, it stands to run out in 2029, but at least there's plenty of time to save it and put that date off. 

https://www.salon.com/2020/08/29/social-security-fund-would-run-out-of-money-in-3-years-if-trump-eliminates-payroll-tax-ssa-analysis-2/

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43 % of our military enlisted ranks are black?

Really?

It's that high versus white, Hispanic and Asian?

That's a remarkable number.

Especially considering blacks only make up 13.4 % of our population.

Hispanic 18% and white 60.1%.

 

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31 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

43 % of our military enlisted ranks are black?

Really?

It's that high versus white, Hispanic and Asian?

That's a remarkable number.

Especially considering blacks only make up 13.4 % of our population.

Hispanic 18% and white 60.1%.

2018 Military Demographics

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2 hours ago, David Andrews said:

If they had, they might have learned some respect for other races.

Because we are all racists right?

Middle Age White Guy Says Other Middle Age White Guy is Racist.

Do you guys (not just you David) know how infantile and petty the "Racist" trope is when it is brandished by someone who is also a member the most privileged class in the United States, the adult white male?

You might as well wear a t-shirt that says, "Cuc", or "Proud to be a Beta Male."

That's fine if you are a "cuc" or a proud "Beta Male", there is no harm in either.

The problem arises from the beta-white-guys usurpation of minority classes stock of "grievance empathy" from the class they are trying to enlighten or inform, or just offend.

That is, if a black guy wants to call me a racist, even if I maintain the belief that I am not a racist, the black guy might still be able to extract some empathy from me, under the premise that I have never walked in his shoes. At the very least, he has some level of my empathy, because I do not know what it means to be black.

My patience though, at being called a "racist" is not infinite. It is a fixed or finite quantity at any particular point. The black guy might "try my patience" by calling me a racist, but it is offset by my willingness to consider that he might be right, even if I do not know why, because I am not a black guy.

If I start the day with a patience quota of 100, and a black guy calls me a racist, now my quota is down to 90. Since it is a black guy, and I am not, he gets 9 points of empathy, and the net effect is my patience quota is now 99. 

A white guy who calls me a racist does not get empathy credits. I know what it is like to walk in his shoes. The white guy who calls me a racist quickly exhausts my patience to zero.

Anyone else who legitimately deserves my empathy as a member of an aggrieved class is out of luck, or will soon be, because the white beta male took it.

The white beta male climbed on the back of a minority under the mistaken belief that I give a s**t, and now my capacity to empathize with someone with a legitimate gripe is less.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said:

Because we are all racists right?

Middle Age White Guy Says Other Middle Age White Guy is Racist.

Do you guys (not just you David) know how infantile and petty the "Racist" trope is when it is brandished by someone who is also a member the most privileged class in the United States, the adult white male?

You might as well wear a t-shirt that says, "Cuc", or "Proud to be a Beta Male."

That's fine if you are a "cuc" or a proud "Beta Male", there is no harm in either.

The problem arises from the beta-white-guys usurpation of minority classes stock of "grievance empathy" from the class they are trying to enlighten or inform, or just offend.

That is, if a black guy wants to call me a racist, even if I maintain the belief that I am not a racist, the black guy might still be able to extract some empathy from me, under the premise that I have never walked in his shoes. At the very least, he has some level of my empathy, because I do not know what it means to be black.

My patience though, at being called a "racist" is not infinite. It is a fixed or finite quantity at any particular point. The black guy might "try my patience" by calling me a racist, but it is offset by my willingness to consider that he might be right, even if I do not know why, because I am not a black guy.

If I start the day with a patience quota of 100, and a black guy calls me a racist, now my quota is down to 90. Since it is a black guy, and I am not, he gets 9 points of empathy, and the net effect is my patience quota is now 99. 

A white guy who calls me a racist does not get empathy credits. I know what it is like to walk in his shoes. The white guy who calls me a racist quickly exhausts my patience to zero.

Anyone else who legitimately deserves my empathy as a member of an aggrieved class is out of luck, or will soon be, because the white beta male took it.

The white beta male climbed on the back of a minority under the mistaken belief that I give a s**t, and now my capacity to empathize with someone with a legitimate gripe is less.

 

 

 

 

 

Pick whichever answer you prefer:

  1. Are people really calling you racist with such frequency, it's required you to scientifically formulate a social philosophy of response?
  2. Sensitive about something?
  3. Can't do better than to parrot that alt.right epithet, "cuc"?
  4. Actually, wasn't talking to you.
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21 minutes ago, David Andrews said:

Pick whichever answer you prefer:

  1. Are people really calling you racist with such frequency, it's required you to scientifically formulate a social philosophy of response?
  2. Sensitive about something?
  3. Can't do better than to parrot that alt.right epithet, "cuc"?
  4. Actually, wasn't talking to you.

1. Nobody calls me a racist, except the beta boys here under some presumption that anyone to the right of Biden, is by default, racist.

2. Sensitive. No, I like to point out that the willingness to pull the "racist" card is indicative of a lack of intellectual capacity to make a coherent argument, and any white guy that does should appreciate they come across as a joke, rather than the serious adult they imagine.

3. Those here who don't know what it means will google it up. Their extra effort will make it's meaning more impactful. 

4. If Trump supporters are all "racist", then by default I am a racist. Since I'm the only Trump supporter here, I figured I would point out there is no sadder form of race baiter than a white guy.  

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10 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

4. If Trump supporters are all "racist", then by default I am a racist. Since I'm the only Trump supporter here, I figured I would point out there is no sadder form of race baiter than a white guy.  

I don't know you, nor have I really followed much of anything you've said except a few posts on this thread so I'm not really addressing you as much as making general observations.

I will say though that the actual saddest form of a racist, race baiter or anything is the one who denies his words, meaning, and intent and instead hides behind the guise of the oppressed and pretends it is truly he who is being marginalized and mistreated.

Additionally, I know literally hundreds of Trump supporters. All of them are not racist by any means, but 95% of them are. I'm using 95% generously because I know for a fact that some of them aren't, the number in all liklihood is closer to 99% are racist.

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1 hour ago, Mark Stevens said:

I don't know you, nor have I really followed much of anything you've said except a few posts on this thread so I'm not really addressing you as much as making general observations.

I will say though that the actual saddest form of a racist, race baiter or anything is the one who denies his words, meaning, and intent and instead hides behind the guise of the oppressed and pretends it is truly he who is being marginalized and mistreated.

Additionally, I know literally hundreds of Trump supporters. All of them are not racist by any means, but 95% of them are. I'm using 95% generously because I know for a fact that some of them aren't, the number in all liklihood is closer to 99% are racist.

Spot on, and I say this as a guy who was, literally, the only white guy on my neighborhood school bus by the time I was a senior in high school in 1975.

Do I know really know what it's like to grow up as a black guy in America?

Hell no, but some Caucasians probably have a better idea about these issues than others.

I vividly remember some of my black friends in the old neighborhood complaining about store clerks following them around in stores, or guys trying to hit them with their cars, etc.  I remember telling them that they were imagining that stuff, until I actually observed it.  The profiling and targeting of blacks by police was always common knowledge-- long before cellphone cameras and the BLM movement.

As for Trump, in a Hegelian sense, I view him as the Anti-Obama-- the Birther-in-Chief whose disastrous presidency was always predicated on the denigration of blacks and Latinos.

People who deny that obvious fact remind me of those who try to argue that the American Civil War wasn't about slavery.  They're fooling themselves.

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