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10 hours ago, David Andrews said:

For once, I just have nothing to say.  There's a lot I'm tempted to say, but none of it's rational or complementary, or even humane.

After all of Trump's pack-'em-in rallies, his contempt for CDC guidelines, etc., here's a great statement from another forum that says it all for me:

"If his getting sick saves at least one more person from dying, it is worth it."

 

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4 hours ago, Ron Ecker said:

After all of Trump's pack-'em-in rallies, his contempt for CDC guidelines, etc., here's a great statement from another forum that says it all for me:

"If his getting sick saves at least one more person from dying, it is worth it."

 

Also, the mask downplaying is over.

The entire nation now gets the true and responsible message ... mask use is effective and imperative.

Trump alone will always own that costly wrong message mistake more than anyone. Right up to last Tuesday's national debate where he belittled Biden for his mask use and his family and staff rebuffed the Cleveland Clinic staff who tried to get them to wear masks during the debate.

Trump's virus affliction instantly reversed his mask downplaying message for the public health good.

List of infected WH staff and others attending maskless WH event so far :

Trump

Melania Trump

Kellyanne Conway

Hope Hicks

Campaign Manager Bill Stepien

RNC Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel

Trump Debate Coach Chris Christie

Republican Senator Mike Lee

Republican Senator Thomas Tillis

Republican Senator Ron Johnson

Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett had Covid in recent months

Three WH Press Corp members

Notre Dame College President John I. Jenkins

One would assume the physical White House ( with mostly small and closed environment rooms and hallways ) might be logically classified a Covid "hot spot" at this point.

To protect everyone visiting or working there, activities might be limited to outdoors with mask and social distancing requirements.

Wonder also about WH military guards, Secret Service and domestic service staff. Do they all wear masks while on duty there?

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

Trump

Melania Trump

Kellyanne Conway

Hope Hicks

RNC Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel

Senator Mike Lee

Senator Thomas Tillis

Campaign manager Bill Stepien.

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30 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Doug, it's a shame so few Americans are even aware of commentary like the above, let alone read them.

Same with the excellent documentaries on Trump/Guiliani ( which have made it to non main stream television ) and their associations with unsavory characters in their business careers and even personal lives.

What this women is revealing is the much greater power and influence organized crime has had and still possesses in our nation, well beyond anything the average citizen can even imagine. And, how the Trump family and Guiliani have been connected to them for decades.

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1 hour ago, Steve Thomas said:

I've been wondering who's in charge at the White House. Trump's in the hospital struggling to breathe and Pence is in hiding. Literally, who's in charge there? Mark Meadows? Stephen Miller? Jared Kushner?

Steve Thomas

 

It’s Kushner. He’s the mob’s man. He’ll be in charge if Pence is made  president, too. Pence is the Kevin Pollack character from Casino.

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30 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

MSNBC just announced GOP Senator Ron Johnson tested positive.

Wow!

Looks like the virus is sweeping through the White House and Senate like a brushfire!

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5 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

I have a question about the line of succession.

Steve Thomas

The Real Nightmare Scenario: A Sick Mike Pence

“The U.S. government knows how to handle an incapacitated commander in chief, but has no idea how to deal with a very sick vice president.”

By GARRETT M. GRAFF

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/02/pence-trump-covid-coronavirus-sick-425329

 

The second problem is with the statute, the Presidential Succession Act, that guides the line of succession beyond the vice presidency. It may not really be constitutional—and the nation may find the law tested in a moment of great crisis. There’s a clear and well-understood debate that the law dodges a vexing question: Are the speaker of the House and the Senate president pro tem considered “officers of the United States” for constitutional purposes and thus eligible to succeed to the presidency at all? No less an authority than the author of the Constitution himself, James Madison, argued that they were legislators, not constitutional officers, and thus ineligible to become president.

The process outlined in the law appears to be in conflict with other parts of the Constitution that hold that only executive branch officials are “officers” and that uncertainty could allow it to be disputed in court.

Republican Senator John Cornyn raised the question of what would happen if a speaker of the House or Senate president pro tem ascended to the presidency—and then was challenged by the secretary of State, who argued that the legislators didn’t count as constitutional officers. “Believe it or not, the secretary actually has a rather strong case, in my view,” Cornyn said. “Who is the president? Whose orders should be followed by our armed forces, by our intelligence agencies, and by domestic law enforcement bureaus? If lawsuits are filed, will courts accept jurisdiction? How long will they take to rule? How will they rule? And how will their rulings be respected?”

Later, a special bipartisan “continuity of government” commission led jointly by the Brookings Institution and the American Enterprise Institute, concluded, there “are serious policy and constitutional objections to having congressional leaders in the line of succession.”

Steve Thomas

 

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2 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said:

I learned a great new term today. "Covidiots."

 

 

No masks, no distancing idiots.

Expert advise respecting, mask wearing and social distancing Biden looks more and more intelligent, responsible and presidential every day.

 

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