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Salon.com has done several stories on Trump cronies and Trump-supporting political candidates who have gotten PPP emergency business loans.  Some of the loans were unnecessary, and some recipients have diverted part of the money for personal use.  I'm not watching the MSM (NYT, WAPO) daily, so I don't know if these fraud stories are circulating; but even Trump's lowest deplorables might lose faith in the face of such corruption.

An example:

https://www.salon.com/2020/10/09/self-funding-qanon-candidate-gave-own-campaign-450000-after-getting-ppp-loan/

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18 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

 

    Meanwhile, the NYT's lead story this afternoon is about a Trump hotel in Vegas deducting a $21 million dollar "expense" that was paid to ...uh... Donald Trump, himself, through a series of shell companies.

Youv'e got to be kidding!

Another head shaking outrageous sleaze deal benefitting DT?

On top of dozens? It never ends!

How...how in the world can this big time crook get re-elected?

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23 hours ago, Jim Harwood said:

W. cant you analyze Dane Rudhyar's career as a brainwasher? Your buddy Kirk Gallaway is said to have studied under him. is Kirk Gallaway the "ZODIAC"?  Does Kirk know Colonel Michael Aquino of Presidio? 

C'mon W. what's the problem were you the 12th shrink on the John Hinkley  MK Ultra team in Colorado in 1980/1981 ? 

 

Kirk Gallaway has been an astrologer for 40 years. He studied the humanistic approach to astrology under Dane Rudhyar, considered by many to be the most important and influential astrological writer of the 20th century. Gallaway then studied a psychological approach to chart interpretation under Richard Idemon that focused on anomalies such as singletons, chains of dispositors, and unaspected planets as a key to unlocking obscure psychological complexes. Gallaway's approach has evolved over the years to incorporate elements of Transpersonal Psychology. In recent years he has pursued studying the movement of the planets beyond Earth, their major historical conjunctions and aspects and their tie-in to historical eras and human social, political, religious, and scientific movements, wars, and watershed economic events and cycles including recession and depression. He currently lives in the mountains above Los Gatos, California.

Is this really the Kirk here.

The one who has been predicting Trumps impending early exit from the Oval Office at least once every few days since at least I’ve been here?

Oh boy.

Now Cliff’s 11 rules for Dungeons and Dragons Wizards and Friends of Satan coffee club makes sense.

This thread is going to 11. 


Like Nigel Tufnel’s guitar amp and Satans Rules for Success.

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3 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

   Trump, himself, has been speaking in tongues lately-- bragging about the booming "sock rocket," and praising the "YO-Semites," etc.

    He even used th F-word today in his rambling  interview with Rush Limbaugh.

    Meanwhile, the NYT's lead story this afternoon is about a Trump hotel in Vegas deducting a $21 million dollar "expense" that was paid to ...uh... Donald Trump, himself, through a series of shell companies.

Is he possibly a little delirious?  Maybe Peosi is right to question his sanity at the moment, fitness for the job.  Could be interesting how this speech from a white house balcony and Florida rally go.

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1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:

Is he possibly a little delirious?  Maybe Peosi is right to question his sanity at the moment, fitness for the job.  Could be interesting how this speech from a white house balcony and Florida rally go.

Ron,

      I suspect that Trump may be delirious.  Hard to know the true facts about his medical condition and treatment, but he is still hoarse, and coughing.   He got a dose of high potency steroids at Walter Reed, and may be on oral doses of Prednisone now to prevent inflammatory lung damage.

      To me, he seems even more erratic and confused than usual.  For example, he was just bragging about his terrific treatment with Regeneron and Remdesivir, (he owns stock in both pharmaceutical companies) then started bragging today about how he doesn't need any drugs to beat COVID! 

     He also flip-flopped 180 degrees on the stimulus deal, and ordered Barr to investigate his political adversaries.

     Perhaps he'll announce tomorrow that he will make his birthday a national holiday. 🤥

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22 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Knew that would strike up a Trumpian twitter storm by CV/KG.  Remember the Gallagher Brothers, the heel team from the wrestling scene of the 1960's, well that is what these guys are.

I guess that makes me Ilio DIPaolo. 

Uh oh, here comes the Gallagher Brothers again!  LOL!  🤮

 
I did think Jim's attack on Cliff was rehashed and a bit off the wall. As ruled, I would caution him to be aware  of unholy alliances. I tried to be measured, and did find some common ground. I never saw the Gallagher Bros. But for Jim to in part, compare me  to his old my wrestling icons of old is pretty cool!
 
I remember reading in wrestling magazines about Bruno Sammartino. But wrestling was more regionalized when we were young. We had different National All Star Wrestling heroes on the West Coast, like Ray Stevens, The Shiek, yes, Haystack Calhoun, Bo Bo Brazil,Pepper Gomez, Dick the Bruiser.
 
Remember the 60's song "Do the Crusher" by the Novas? That voice always reminded me of "Dick the Bruiser". In a lot of Clint Eastwood's recent characters in "Grand Torino""The Mule" Million Dollar Baby", Clint's speaking style reminds me of "Dick the Bruiser."
 
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10 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

 

     He also flip-flopped 180 degrees on the stimulus deal, and ordered Barr to investigate his political adversaries.

  

In just "one" 24 hour period Trump went from publicly announcing he was stopping completely all negotiations on any stimulus package until after he was elected, to then saying they were on again and then, in a rambling two hour long spiel with Rush Limbaugh, he went in an even different direction and said he wanted to reverse the Republican "skinny" package deal to one even larger than the Dems have offered!

All within just 24 hours? 

If THAT isn't a sign of steroid instability, what is?

Imagine being one of 40 to 60 million rent, bills and life stressed, job loss Americans who have barely been getting by, especially with the stoppage of the extra supplemental funds at the end of July, and who have been waiting months for needed relief promised by both parties and then seeing and hearing this extreme back and forth position shifting by our drugged up president and in such a brief period of time?

One hour your stomach drops when Trump says no negotiations until after he gets elected, hours later he reverses himself 180 degrees and says they're back on, and just hours after that he says ... let's make this an even bigger give-away!  

What the heck?

Like talking to a manic meth addict before and then after their getting high!

And in between this crazy stimulus seesaw ride he's yelling...listen Billy Boy, go after Obama and Clinton and arrest their asses right now! And if you don't do it ... I'm a gonna be one really mad dude!

Melania ... where's my Prednisone?

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Trump campaign discussing plans to appoint its own state electors, no matter the results: report

A real nightmare scenario: The eight closest battleground states might send competing sets of electors to Congress

 

https://www.salon.com/2020/10/06/trump-campaign-discussing-plans-to-appoint-its-own-state-electors-no-matter-the-results-report/?fbclid=IwAR1od06EZFSWxxA3hlpYgzuKYSWUeSMnfS-8pD2x_RLHmlgCmeQMH-Vis90

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Trump's campaign is crumbling just like his Casino businesses in Atlantic City back in the 1990s.

Through massive mismanagement and over borrowing at too high of interest rates.

Trump "borrowed" support for his presidency from a high risk base with overhyped promises and overhyped political assets. He couldn't deliver on his end, just like he couldn't deliver on his loans for the Casino's.

And just like his Casino debacle failures, there will be huge losses to those who invested big time in his failed presidency venture.

All those who have served Trump with blind sychophantic loyalty or enabled him throughout his one term disaster will be forever tainted by his colossal failure just like Nixon's entire team of 25 closest staff, aides and appointees were after Watergate.  

  • "People underestimated Donald Trump’s ability to pillage the company," Sebastian Pignatello, an investor who at one time owned $500,000 worth of stock in Trump's casino companies, according to The New York Times. "He drove these companies into bankruptcy by his mismanagement, the debt and his pillaging."

Trump's neice Mary Trump ( author of her Trump expose book "Too Much And Never Enough ") is being proven 100% accurate in her critical assessment of her uncle.

Some Dems including Pelosi herself didn't want to go through with the Impeachment proceedings of Trump.

However, in hindsight, even though the Republican Senate protected Trump and let him off the conviction hook in the end, the impeachment move hurt Trump more than many believe.

As shut down as the Trump impeachment effort was, it still tainted him. It corroded his image. It greatly exposed his recklessly aggressive and totally self-interest motivated abuse of power behavior. 

The impeachment proceedings ( even as far as they went ) were just one part of the erosion of Trump's weakly built false facade image of leadership competency. 

Combined with 100 other presidential leadership failures that false facade has finally been completely crumbled just as Trump's Casino businesses were back in the 1990's ... imo.

We all know now what Trump truly is;

The ultimate "Flim-Flam Man." 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

A real nightmare scenario: The eight closest battleground states might send competing sets of electors to Congress

CONTESTING THE VOTE: THE ROLE OF CONGRESS; What the House and Senate Could Do, or Not Do, in Picking the President

By David E. Rosenbaum November 30, 2000

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/30/us/contesting-vote-role-congress-what-house-senate-could-not-picking-president.html

Rosenbaum was writing about the election in 2000.

 

“Under a 1934 law, electors meet in their states to cast their votes for president on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December -- Dec. 18 this year. At least six days before that -- Dec. 12 this year -- each governor must certify who his or her state's electors are and send a ''certificate of ascertainment'' to Washington. The states, under the law, are supposed to have resolved all disputes over their electors by Dec. 12, and the choices made then are ''deemed conclusive.''

 

“But what if Mr. Gore prevails in court in Florida, a recount shows him with more votes in the state than Mr. Bush and the court orders state officials to submit a slate of electors pledged to Mr. Gore? What if the state legislature thumbs its nose at the court and insists on Republican electors? And what if the court proceedings take so long that the Dec. 12 deadline is missed and the Gore electors are not chosen until later?”

 

In 2020, the first Monday after the second Wednesday is December 15th.

 

If the Electoral College has not decided by December 14th, the matter is given to Congress who meet to count the electors on early January. The winner is chosen by a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate. If Congress can’t decide, it’s referred to the Supreme Court. The Court may refuse to hear the case and send it back down to the Legislative Branch.

 

The First Day of a New Congress: A Guide to Proceedings on the Senate Floor Congressional Research

https://www.senate.gov/CRSpubs/cf80c40a-29bc-4d1b-9dec-541dff2349b6.pdf

The Constitution mandates that Congress convene at noon on January 3, unless the preceding Congress by law designated a different day. P.L. 113-201set January 6, 2015, as the convening date of the 114thCongress. The 115thCongress convenedon January 3, 2017.Congressional leaders announced the 116thCongress would convene January 3, 2019.

Other first-day activities may occur as a consequence of specific circumstances, such as providing for a joint session with the House to count electoral votes after a presidential election”

Steve Thomas

 

 

 

 

 

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Called Everyone in Jeffrey Epstein’s Little Black Book

What I learned about rich people, conspiracy, “genius,” Ghislaine, stand-up comedy, and evil from 2,000 phone calls.

Leland NallyOctober 9, 2020

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/i-called-everyone-in-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book/?fbclid=IwAR2z0xxq1Vt8iVisciOLoUObLfk4FpdRkErxyaN5Azgp87QDvE-kCpmL5Yo

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