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16 minutes ago, Robert Burrows said:

That the "Christians" who support Donald Trump are willing to ignore the fact that one of the therapies that Donald Trump hailed as "...miracles coming down from God..." was developed by using the kidney cells of an aborted fetus speaks volumes about their hypocrisy.
 

From White House press conference:

Reporter:  Mr. President, did you know that the cells used in your treatment came from an aborted fetus?

Trump:  That's a nasty question. I know nothing about that. I never met him. I don't know who he was. You are a horrible reporter. Next question. You, the woman in back with the ugly face.

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Trump's anti-Muslim blather dove-tailed superficially with the old "War on Terror" concept, except for the fact that none of the Bush-Cheney era boogeymen-- Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, ISIS, et.al.-- were Shiites from the countries Trump targeted for condemnation, as opposed to the sword-dancing Saudis!

You are right again Niederhut.

The War on Terror "blather" was definitely red-meat for traditionally Republican voters. (My self included.) In 2016, your average potential Trump Voter was also a Romney voter, McCain voter, Bush II voter, (Repubs. all the way back to Ike for someone as old as my father.)

Whether Trump knew what he was doing or not, Republicans like me were not going to support Trump if he did not hold to the Bush II, Romney, McCain worldview of the dangers of Muslim Extremism.

As you know, Niederhut, many on the Right, like myself, are not as sharp as those more to the Left, like yourself, so it took us awhile to figure out that all those Shiite's are not that threatening. Better yet, if you don't give them a bunch of guns and missiles, they are even less threatening. 

Basically, if Trump has taught us one thing, it's that the Bush/Romney/McCain wing over-hyped the Muslim threat. 

The "blather", intended or not, got him in Office. Once in Office, many on the Right have come to the realization that Bush with the Afghanistan and Iraq was making things up, and that Obama, with Libya and Syria, was also making things up.

I think we can both agree that the "blather" is better than the Bombing of another Middle East country under the pretense of a threat that barely ever existed.

PS: The Sword Dance marked a break from the "pro-Bush/Obama/Clinton" faction of the Saudi Royal family. It may have looked silly, but it was a pretty meaningful turn away from the Saudi factions that funded the arming of Shiite Groups who would otherwise remain materially less threatening if they did not have the weapons to threaten people.

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This coming one week after Michigan.

 

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

"The FBI and Law Enforcement must focus their energy on ANTIFA and the Radical Left, those who have spent the summer trying to burn down poorly run Democrat Cities throughout the USA!"

6:59 AM · Oct 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

 

What is orange and has mush inside and you get rid of in early November?

Steve Thomas

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

This coming one week after Michigan.

 

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

"The FBI and Law Enforcement must focus their energy on ANTIFA and the Radical Left, those who have spent the summer trying to burn down poorly run Democrat Cities throughout the USA!"

6:59 AM · Oct 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

 

What is orange and has mush inside and you get rid of in early November?

Steve Thomas

 

 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

You are right again Niederhut.

The War on Terror "blather" was definitely red-meat for traditionally Republican voters. (My self included.) In 2016, your average potential Trump Voter was also a Romney voter, McCain voter, Bush II voter, (Repubs. all the way back to Ike for someone as old as my father.)

Whether Trump knew what he was doing or not, Republicans like me were not going to support Trump if he did not hold to the Bush II, Romney, McCain worldview of the dangers of Muslim Extremism.

As you know, Niederhut, many on the Right, like myself, are not as sharp as those more to the Left, like yourself, so it took us awhile to figure out that all those Shiite's are not that threatening. Better yet, if you don't give them a bunch of guns and missiles, they are even less threatening. 

Basically, if Trump has taught us one thing, it's that the Bush/Romney/McCain wing over-hyped the Muslim threat. 

The "blather", intended or not, got him in Office. Once in Office, many on the Right have come to the realization that Bush with the Afghanistan and Iraq was making things up, and that Obama, with Libya and Syria, was also making things up.

I think we can both agree that the "blather" is better than the Bombing of another Middle East country under the pretense of a threat that barely ever existed.

PS: The Sword Dance marked a break from the "pro-Bush/Obama/Clinton" faction of the Saudi Royal family. It may have looked silly, but it was a pretty meaningful turn away from the Saudi factions that funded the arming of Shiite Groups who would otherwise remain materially less threatening if they did not have the weapons to threaten people.

News flash, Rob.  The Saudis and the UAE have never funded Shiites.  They have funded Sunni militants like Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, and ISIS-- the "terrorists."

So, naturally, Trump's first state visit as POTUS was to Riyadh, where he did the sword dance with Mohammed Bin Salami.

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Flood of Democratic Mail-In Votes Swamp Republicans In Key State Early Balloting

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democrat-absentee-ballot-record-gop_n_5f83b2a8c5b6e6d033a43a75

In Wisconsin, about 146,000 people voted by mail in 2016. So far this year, about 647,000 people have voted by mail, many in Democratic strongholds.

A full 36% of the total number of all votes in 2016 in Wisconsin’s overwhelmingly Democratic Dane County, which includes Madison, have already been cast by absentee ballot, the Times reports. But voters in Republican-leaning regions in Wisconsin are generally voting early by mail no more than the previous average, according to the newspaper.

The pattern is being repeated in Pittsburgh, North Carolina’s Chapel Hill, Houston, and in Tampa, Florida, according to the Times.

Republican voters may have taken to heart President Donald Trump’s repeated dire and unfounded warnings about faulty mail ballots, while Democrats ignored them. Bad weather, fears of catching COVID-19 and long, slow lines could further discourage GOP voters who wait for Election Day to head to the polls.

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1 hour ago, Steve Thomas said:

What is orange and has mush inside and you get rid of in early November?

Steve Thomas

 

 

 

That must be the pumpkin left over from Halloween. 

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W. said;

News flash, Rob.  The Saudis and the UAE have never funded Shiites.  They have funded Sunni militants like Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, and ISIS-- the "terrorists.

Exactly W. and the ignorance on the right continues! Trump is employing a wedge by cutting off the treaty with Iran and trying to isolate Iran by using the greatest source of terrorism in the region, the UAE and the Saudis. These sort of Trump Machiavellian  stunts, befriending bloody dictators are risky at best.

Whatever is said about Iran, yes, they still have the backwards Shiite government element. But they are a Democracy, largely Westernized with many older people who hated the Shah and wanted change, but fondly remember the prosperity during the years of the U.S.- Shah alliance. The woman who cuts my hair is Iranian. Unfortunately she went back to Iran because she for months  had no employment in California because of the covid lockdown.

The  U.S.  policy re Iran for the last 40 years is similar to Cuba. They've been starving them out, propagandizing that they are just to about to crack at any time and will become another Western gung ho capitalist society soon. The Iran treaty is really no brainer. There are sizable amounts of people on both sides who wanted it to happen. We  can argue about the overall value of bringing lots of U.S.corporate influences to Tehran, Havana or Minsk. I understand but it does have a stabilizing influence between countries.

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Early voting started in Georgia today.

According to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, voting lines in Atlanta started forming at 4:00 AM, and people are waiting as long as 3 hours to vote.

As my wife put it, Donald Trump made the mistake of telling Americans that they couldn't vote. That's the one thing you should never do.

As she put it, "Don't tell us you're not leaving. We'll tell you, oh yes, you are."

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21 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

Early voting started in Georgia today.

According to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, voting lines in Atlanta started forming at 4:00 AM, and people are waiting as long as 3 hours to vote.

 

Are Trump's "observers" there? 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

W. said;

News flash, Rob.  The Saudis and the UAE have never funded Shiites.  They have funded Sunni militants like Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, and ISIS-- the "terrorists.

Exactly W. and the ignorance on the right continues! Trump is employing a wedge by cutting off the treaty with Iran and trying to isolate Iran by using the greatest source of terrorism in the region, the UAE and the Saudis. These sort of Trump Machiavellian  stunts, befriending bloody dictators are risky at best.

Whatever is said about Iran, yes, they still have the backwards Shiite government element. But they are a Democracy, largely Westernized with many older people who hated the Shah and wanted change, but fondly remember the prosperity during the years of the U.S.- Shah alliance. The woman who cuts my hair is Iranian. Unfortunately she went back to Iran because she for months  had no employment in California because of the covid lockdown.

The  U.S.  policy re Iran for the last 40 years is similar to Cuba. They've been starving them out, propagandizing that they are just to about to crack at any time...

And, of course, assassinating their leaders.

https://southofheaven.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451960269e2017eeacc3e92970d-600wi

 

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