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Arent you conflating mob violence with protest? The article isn’t suggesting that organizing groups are planning violence, just preparing in case violence is used against them. Did you see the recent movie about the Chicago 7? I certainly do agree that violent protests and looting in the middle of the night is worse than counterproductive. There have been credible reports of infiltration of protests by forces perhaps unknown committing violent acts in the names of BLM or Antifa, and history is replete with this kind of thing. Days of Lead Operation Gladio comes to mind. I mean, what is Antifa anyway if not just a convenient scapegoat for the law and order Trumpsters? It’s not even an organization, just a costume. 

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24 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

Arent you conflating mob violence with protest? The article isn’t suggesting that organizing groups are planning violence, just preparing in case violence is used against them. Did you see the recent movie about the Chicago 7? I certainly do agree that violent protests and looting in the middle of the night is worse than counterproductive. There have been credible reports of infiltration of protests by forces perhaps unknown committing violent acts in the names of BLM or Antifa, and history is replete with this kind of thing. Days of Lead Operation Gladio comes to mind. I mean, what is Antifa anyway if not just a convenient scapegoat for the law and order Trumpsters? It’s not even an organization, just a costume. 

Levity.  Paul, please don't go out tomorrow on Halloween in an Antifa costume.  I value your comments.  It could be dangerous, even in Frisco.  How about as a Crusader? 

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Wheeler, who has always seen fact check sites of any kind, as tools of the "leftists' has now verified that that is indeed Trump's pacifier, and the photo below is real, and you can  "take it to the bank" right Wheeler?

I think what destroyed Trump in the interview with Leslie Stahl was her saying right at the beginning. "Are you ready for some tough questions."  He didn't like being challenged by a woman. He mentioned it later as a slight when he walked out.

Oh you poor widdow baby!https://i.redd.it/jtzvavvwa3w51.png

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On 10/31/2020 at 1:44 AM, Kirk Gallaway said:

Wheeler, who has always seen fact check sites of any kind, as tools of the "leftists' has now verified that that is indeed Trump's pacifier, and the photo below is real, and you can  "take it to the bank" right Wheeler?

I think what destroyed Trump in the interview with Leslie Stahl was her saying right at the beginning. "Are you ready for some tough questions." He mentioned it later as a slight when he walked out.

Oh you poor widdow baby!https://i.redd.it/jtzvavvwa3w51.png

🤣😂🤣

 

 

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Searing Supercut Counts Down Donald Trump’s ‘100 Most Tremendous Scandals’

“Note: This list is not definitive,” warns “The Daily Show with Trevor Noah.”

By Lee Moran

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-100-scandals-the-daily-show_n_5f9d08e9c5b658b27c3a9a8a

“The controversies have flowed thick and fast during Donald Trump’s presidency.

On Friday, “The Daily Show with Trevor Noah” released a montage featuring 100 of the “most tremendous” scandals that have engulfed the Trump White House in the last four years.”

https://youtu.be/K9ernOuKUOw?t=179

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I hope this doesn't come to anything.

Saudi man crashes car into gates of Mecca’s Grand Mosque

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-mecca-middle-east-dubai-united-arab-emirates-ed031a6b5cece9cce8528bbda440082f4

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — "A Saudi man in a speeding car crashed into the outer gates of Mecca’s Grand Mosque late Friday night, the country’s state-run news agency reported.

The crash happened around 10:30 p.m. and saw the man’s car ram through a barrier and keep driving until it hit the gate on the Grand Mosque’s southern side, the Saudi Press Agency said.

Authorities arrested the man inside, who appeared in an “abnormal” condition, the agency said, without elaborating. Police referred them man to prosecutors for possible charges, according to the report.

Video on social media corresponded to the news agency’s account, with security forces later pushing the damaged sedan away."

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Steve Bannon is starting to panic.

 

Former Trump aide Steve Bannon ‘border wall’ fraud trial set for May 2021

“A federal judge ordered that Steve Bannon, a former top aide to President Donald Trump, and three co-defendants begin their trial on May 24, 2021, on charges of defrauding donors to a campaign to build a border wall.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/31/steven-bannon-case-border-wall-fraud-trial-of-trump-aide-set-for-may.html

Trumpworld’s darkest plot yet is starting to implode

By Alex Henderson, AlterNet October 31, 2020

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/trumpworlds-darkest-plot-yet-is-starting-to-implode/

“On October 29,” Peltz reports, “Bannon attacked Giuliani even though they’ve been working together to launder the bogus story that first appeared in the New York Post, calling him ‘one of the weak guys around’ Trump.”

In a transcript of that October 29 conversation, according to Peltz, Bannon declared, “Wray must be fired this morning” — and Giuliani agreed with firing Wray, but not until after the election. Bannon, in response, told Giuliani, “You’re one of the weak guys around him. You’re getting weak on me, Rudy. No, you’re weak. You sort of sound like Chris; you spent too much time with Chris Christie. You’re getting weak.”

Bannon also slammed Barr as “another weak link in this chain.”

In an October 29 broadcast of “War Room,” Bannon ranted against Wray as well as Trump allies who he believes haven’t done enough to get him fired.

“Fire him today,” Bannon declared. “Do not wait. You show weakness — the president is showing weakness by waiting. There’s not one person in this country, not one voter that will not vote for you by firing Wray. And don’t let the weak people around you convince you of that. Be strong, be who you are, be what your presidency is about.”

Steve Thomas

 

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Fox News threw in the towel on Trump and now the Wall Street Journal does the same.

 

Chaotic’ Trump has only himself to blame for impending re-election loss: Wall Street Journal

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/chaotic-trump-has-only-himself-to-blame-for-impending-re-election-loss-wall-street-journal/

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Consider the $3 glass of water. Trump will never give up grasping for more — we simply have to stop him

By Lucian K. Truscott IV, Salon October 31, 2020

https://www.salon.com/2020/10/31/donald-trumps-insatiable-hunger-for-more-more-power-more-money-more-golf-more-women/

Remember this number: $3.

That’s how much Trump charged the federal government for a glass of water in April of 2018 when he and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe met at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. According to the Washington Post, Trump’s company also charged the government “$13,700 for guest rooms, $16,500 for food and wine and $6,000 for the roses and other floral arrangements,” over the two days he held meetings with Abe at the resort. But one day, Trump was scheduled to meet with Abe without aides and advisers, with no meal service or cocktails or any other celebratory nonsense. Just the two leaders, alone in a room, talking. According to the Post, the bill for that day contained a line item reading, “Bilateral meeting. Water. $3.00 each.”

Donald Trump has been paid “at least $2.5 million by the U.S. government,” since taking office, according to official documents obtained by the Post. Trump has made more than 280 visits to his own hotels and golf clubs over the last four years, and the payments covered costs for “hotel rooms, ballrooms, cottages, rental houses, golf carts, votive candles, floating candles, candelabras, furniture moving, resort fees, decorative palm trees, strip steak, chocolate cake, breakfast buffets, $88 bottles of wine and $1,000 worth of liquor for White House aides.” according to the Post.

And water. A total of six bucks for water, no charge being too small to make it onto a bill to the government for a payment going straight into the pocket of the man who owns the Trump Organization and everything it comprises, including his resort in Palm Beach.

It’s apparently a good part of what the Trump base likes about him — his appetites, his pure, unadulterated, money-grubbing-right-down-to-$3-for-water greed. Trump has wanted more his entire life. He wants more money, of course. He has spent a lifetime in pursuit of more money, and then some more, and more and more. He borrowed so much money in pursuit of even more money that it drove him into bankruptcy, several bankruptcies in fact. Today, as president, he is said to be in debt for nearly $1 billion to banks and other lenders, a debt that will come due within the next few years, according to the New York Times and other reports.

Trump wants more fame, a drive that started off with mentions in gossip columns like the New York Post’s “Page Six,” during the years he was coming into his own as a builder in New York City. He used to call gossip columnists and plant items about himself, posing as a PR person, and then he would call the columnists the next day and comment on their mention of him in order to gain yet another column inch or two in the tabloids. Some said he ran for president back in 2016 to “burnish his brand,” to achieve even more fame and use it to make even more money. Since he became president, he has been relentless in his pursuit of attention, tweeting at all hours, criticizing cable networks who don’t give him enough coverage, calling in to shows like “Fox & Friends” and “Hannity” both to reward them for the coverage they’ve already given him, and to get more coverage.

He wants more women, from wife No. 1, Ivana, when he was just starting out, to wife No. 2, Marla Maples, after he jettisoned Ivana, and now wife No. 3, Melania, who replaced No. 2 when he determined she had a few too many miles on her. And then there were all the women in between, in and among his marriages, the women he groped on airplanes and at bars and during parties, the women he (allegedly) raped in places like a Bergdorf’s dressing room or a hotel room or a bathroom during a party, the women whose mouths he forced his tongue down, the women he pushed up against walls and pressed himself against, the women whose bodies he commented on in offices or across rooms, the women whose skirts he put his hand up at restaurant tables, the women whose breasts he grabbed at tennis tournaments and beauty pageants, the women whose rear ends he grabbed in green rooms before television show tapings, the women he dragged behind curtains at New Year’s Eve parties and forcibly kissed and groped. All of those women. Trump wanted their bodies and their mouths and he took them without asking permission because he was Donald Trump, and he took what he wanted.

He wanted more golf, so he played more golf more frequently than any president before him. He wanted so much golf that he went around the world buying and building his own golf courses, and then he played them, because he owned them, and because he owned the golf carts, as president he could charge the government for his own Secret Service agents. He could even charge the government for the hotel rooms the agents stayed in while they protected him. He charged the government $17,000 a month for a cottage at his Bedminster, New Jersey, golf course, which the Secret Service had to rent month after month just in case he had a mind to play a round of golf.

Trump wants more adulation, more love from the “base,” and when he feels he isn’t getting enough, he tweets. There aren’t enough hours in the day for Donald Trump. He was up at 3 a.m. this week, tweeting about the Supreme Court, the court to which he has appointed three arch-conservative justices, yelling at them for their recent decisions allowing mail-in votes to be counted after Election Day, because of course, he wants more votes. He’s been up at 3 a.m. tweeting before, taunting a Miss Universe contestant for a “sex tape,” taunting CNN as “low rated,” bragging about his debate performance, yelling at polls that show him losing.

And now Trump is making his final campaign swing through the “battleground states,” feeding the insatiable need of his base for more of himself. “Four more years” has become “12 more years.” Somehow Trump is owed more years of the presidency because “they” took two or three years away from him during the Russia investigation, because “they” spied on his 2016 campaign, because “they” don’t deserve to win. The red-hat-wearing mobs of un-masked fans at his rallies want more of the America they think Trump is bringing back to them. It’s an America that is more white, has more guns, has more churches, more of “us,” less of “them.”

That’s what they like about him. They want it all, the same way he does. That’s what opposition to affirmative action has always been. They don’t want some of the college admissions, they want them all. That’s what Shelby County v. Holder was about, that’s what voter IDs and all the restrictive rules about voting by mail are about. They want all the votes.

For the Trump base, making America great again means making America ours again, but he’s going to make sure he puts it on their tab, right there with $3 for water and $546 for rooms and $50 for decorative palm trees for table decorations and $1,005.60 for 26 servings of Patron and Don Julio tequila, 22 Chopin vodkas, and six glasses of Woodford Reserve bourbon consumed by White House staffers at the Mar-a-Lago bar. It’s going to cost us more than votes to get our country back. We’re going to be paying for Trump’s insatiable greed long after he’s gone. More than 228,000 of us have already paid with our lives. If the Friday totals keep up — 98,500 new cases and more than 900 dead — a half million of us may perish by the time Trump walks out of the White House for the last time.”

Steve Thomas

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10 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Arent you conflating mob violence with protest? The article isn’t suggesting that organizing groups are planning violence, just preparing in case violence is used against them. Did you see the recent movie about the Chicago 7? I certainly do agree that violent protests and looting in the middle of the night is worse than counterproductive. There have been credible reports of infiltration of protests by forces perhaps unknown committing violent acts in the names of BLM or Antifa, and history is replete with this kind of thing. Days of Lead Operation Gladio comes to mind. I mean, what is Antifa anyway if not just a convenient scapegoat for the law and order Trumpsters? It’s not even an organization, just a costume. 

      Agreed, Paul, but these organizing groups are also giving the right wing Trump thugs a pretext to engage in additional actions by their agent provocateurs that will be blamed on "leftists" by Trump and his media goons.

     Meanwhile, another Trump terrorist has been arrested for threatening to bomb a voting center in North Dakota.

     This election is starting to resemble something from the fractured Wiemar Republic in 1932.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/proud-boy-trump-supporter-threatens-to-bomb-north-dakota-voting-center/

 

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Trump's base is becoming more and more like the Brown Shirt violence condoning base that Hitler worked up into a frenzy of hate towards Hitler's super hyped up fear mongering boogie man enemies.

Only substitute blacks, illegal immigrants, liberals, progressive minded intellectuals and queers for Hitler's boogie man groups of Jews, commies and yes, intellectuals and queers too.

And throw in Hitler's genocide of society burdening mentally ill and invalids. Are Covid deaths just getting rid of the weak, old and infirm as well?

And yet, imo, the real influential force behind all this totally worked up and manipulated Trump base hate creation are the "true power people" behind, enabling and propping up Trump ... the "never enough" wealth and control obsessed 1%.

The huge majority of Trump's base yell and cheer their support for their fearless hero champion leader, but beyond their single election vote they don't have the massive financial means it truly takes to elevate and empower someone into the ultimate power position Trump is in.

Those means reside in a small group of massive wealth elite. Who know how to remain in the shadows.

Identify them...and you idenitfy who really is control. And it isn't Trump himself.

 

 

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2 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

      Agreed, Paul, but these organizing groups are also giving the right wing Trump thugs a pretext to engage in additional actions by their agent provocateurs that will be blamed on "leftists" by Trump and his media goons.

     Meanwhile, another Trump terrorist has been arrested for threatening to bomb a voting center in North Dakota.

     This election is starting to resemble something from the fractured Wiemar Republic in 1932.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/10/proud-boy-trump-supporter-threatens-to-bomb-north-dakota-voting-center/

 

Good point. I’d rather that they organize from home at this juncture.

 

9 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

Trump's base is becoming more and more like the Brown Shirt violence condoning base that Hitler worked up into a frenzy of hate towards Hitler's super hyped up fear mongering boogie man enemies.

Only substitute blacks, illegal immigrants, liberals, progressive minded intellectuals and queers for Hitler's boogie man groups of Jews, commies and yes, intellectuals and queers too.

And throw in Hitler's genocide of society burdening mentally ill and invalids. Are Covid deaths just getting rid of the weak, old and infirm as well?

And yet, imo, the real influential force behind all this totally worked up and manipulated Trump base hate creation are the "true power people" behind, enabling and propping up Trump ... the "never enough" wealth and control obsessed 1%.

The huge majority of Trump's base yell and cheer their support for their fearless hero champion leader, but beyond their single election vote they don't have the massive financial means it truly takes to elevate and empower someone into the ultimate power position Trump is in.

Those means reside in a small group of massive wealth elite. Who know how to remain in the shadows.

Identify them...and you idenitfy who really is control. And it isn't Trump himself.

 

 

agree Joe. It seems to me we should listen to what RFK jr. Is saying about all this recently. We might not agree with all of it, but still ...

 

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https://thegrio.com/2020/10/30/former-gop-conservative-nichols-explains-biden-vote/

Excerpt from article:

“The election of 2020 is about the moral future of the American nation, and so I voted for a good man with whom I have some political disagreements over an evil man with whom I share not a single value as a human being."

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