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2 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

Exactly.  It's all about the money, taxes, etc. Remember, all these hugely successful entertainers are business and money minded to a very tough degree.

There have been legendary rip-offs in the rock and roll world: Dylan’s contract with Albert Grossman is one. Rolling Stones with Allan Klein (which Keith Richards referred wryly as “the price of an education”). Creedence Clearwater. Leonard Cohen licensed his work and believed he had a lasting nest egg to retire to Mt Baldy with, only to discover his manager lost/stole the whole thing and he had to go out on tour for three years when in his seventies. Even the punk rock world was prone to bitter recrimination from record contracts - and this over thousands, not millions, of dollars.

Dylan’s long time manager has done an outstanding job representing his client, keeping him in the public eye, and shoring up his legacy. The Bootleg Series alone has resulted in 15 multi-disc collections since the early ‘90s, most of which is excellent and not redundant. Last week they released an extremely limited edition of 3 CDs of previously unavailable studio outtakes from 1970 - which renews the performance copyright for that material and was specifically labelled “Copyright Collection”. Dylan will be one of those artists - like, say, Billie Holliday or Miles Davis - who will retain a public profile and sell records for a very very long time, so it’s to his credit that his business affairs have been run so well.

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2 hours ago, Jeff Carter said:

There have been legendary rip-offs in the rock and roll world: Dylan’s contract with Albert Grossman is one. Rolling Stones with Allan Klein (which Keith Richards referred wryly as “the price of an education”). Creedence Clearwater. Leonard Cohen licensed his work and believed he had a lasting nest egg to retire to Mt Baldy with, only to discover his manager lost/stole the whole thing and he had to go out on tour for three years when in his seventies. Even the punk rock world was prone to bitter recrimination from record contracts - and this over thousands, not millions, of dollars.

 

Elvis Presley's manager Colonel Tom Parker took more than half of Elvis's earnings. How he got away with it I have no idea unless Elvis was (as a high-school classmate of mine described him with his onstage gyrations) just a "plain idiot." Not only that, but Parker deprived Elvis of millions that he could have earned in overseas tours because Parker was an illegal Dutch immigrant and was afraid that if he left the country with Elvis he might not be allowed to come back. Someone should make a movie about this master criminal who controlled Elvis's life including the making of all those awful movie musicals. I remember reading that early on Elvis, who had serious acting aspirations, could have had the Tony Curtis role opposite Sidney Poitier as escaped convicts in "The Defiant Ones," but Parker felt that Elvis's fans wouldn't like to see him chained to a black man.

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, Ron Ecker said:

Elvis Presley's manager

13 hours ago, Ron Ecker said:

So many entertainers are gifted performers but dumb as rocks in so many other areas.

I liked Elvis. He sounded kind hearted, generous, loyal to friends, easy to be with, down to Earth.

But no matter if he wasn't the class valedictorian.

You can't teach innate public performance magnetizm.

No intellectual skills needed.

Sad to think too many drugs and 2:am fried in butter peanut butter and banana sandwiches did Elvis in at such a young age.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Democrat wants to use Civil War law about traitors to ban 126 Republicans from being seated in Congress

 

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/democrat-wants-to-use-civil-war-law-about-traitors-to-ban-126-republicans-from-being-seated-in-congress/

An excellent idea.

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1 hour ago, Ron Ecker said:

. I remember reading that early on Elvis, who had serious acting aspirations, could have had the Tony Curtis role opposite Sidney Poitier as escaped convicts in "The Defiant Ones," but Parker felt that Elvis's fans wouldn't like to see him chained to a black man.

 

Elvis could have been Robert Mitchum's little brother in Thunder Road, but the Colonel didn't want him playing supporting roles.

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44 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

Was this all a ploy by Paxton to get a pardon from the Prez as I've read alluded to elsewhere?

Yes. It never had a chance based on facts. Even the Texas Solicitor General never signed onto it (or would let his Deputies) and he's the one who has to represent the state in front of SCOTUS.

My hope is any Congressperson who signed onto it will have to appear in front of the Judiciary Committee before being seated in the next Congress. There must be a penalty paid for seditious actions like this and Republicans will continue doing this sort of thing if there isn't. The fact is they don't believe anyone should be included in our democracy unless they conform to their view of who is deserving according to their beliefs.

Blacks/browns are out. Libruls no way. Gay people - only if they don't say anything about it and have cash. On and on. It's the foul end of the party that perpetuates this stuff just like when women and blacks or people who didn't own property weren't allowed to vote. Republicans own that now. It's all in the subtext of their message (Obama's from Kenya ya know).

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There's a silver lining for Trump in his Supreme Court defeat. He now knows who all the Republicans are on the hill who didn't sign on to the lawsuit, so he can proceed to crucify them on Twitter. Ah, the sweet taste of revenge! Some solace for his final days in office, and of course he will continue to pound in the nails thereafter.

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Democrat wants to use Civil War law about traitors to ban 126 Republicans from being seated in Congress

 

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/12/democrat-wants-to-use-civil-war-law-about-traitors-to-ban-126-republicans-from-being-seated-in-congress/

If nothing else, those legislators from Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Georgia who joined this lawsuit should be not be seated, as they tried to nullify their own elections.

Steve Thomas

 

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