The inevitable end result of our last 56 years

[W. Niederhut]

1 minute ago, David Andrews said:

I suppose the cops could have gotten past his lawyer and gotten a search warrant if he'd made public threats, such as on social media.  But all they had was his ex-girlfriend's accounts of their conversation.  And, he was white...

        Still, if a lady told me that her boyfriend was building bombs in his RV, I would have considered it a highly credible, serious threat.   It's a phenomenon that we see, repeatedly, in cases of mass shootings and domestic terrorism in the U.S.-- family members and friends reporting serious homicide threats that are ignored/denied by those who are in a position to intervene.  The examples are legion.

[Steve Thomas]

President-elect Joe Biden said Tuesday that the pace of the Trump administration's vaccine rollout is unacceptable and that he will strategize to distribute 100 million inoculations within his first 100 days.

What's the plan, I wonder, for disposing of 100 million needles?

Steve Thomas

[Steve Thomas]

Ted Cruz Is Pocketing the Money He’s Raising for Georgia GOPers. He’s Not Alone.

ALL FOR ME

“The runoff is a gold mine for politicians. And now that they can run Facebook ads in Georgia, they’re rushing for it.”

By Lachlan Markay Dec. 30, 2020

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ted-cruz-is-pocketing-the-money-hes-raising-for-georgia-gopers-hes-not-alone?ref=home

 

“The Cruz campaign bought 15 separate ads on Facebook over the past two weeks, each featuring a video of the senator dramatically hyping the need to hold two U.S. Senate seats in Georgia runoff contests.

He asked for five dollar contributions to his new “Keep Georgia Red fund.” But Facebook users who clicked through to the online donation page—and read the fine print at the bottom—would see that the actual beneficiary was Cruz’s own campaign committee, not Sens. Kelly Loeffler or David Perdue, the two Republicans running for reelection in Georgia.”

“Cruz is just one of a number of elected officials of both parties using the competitive—and extremely expensive—Georgia runoff contests to raise money for themselves.”

 

And the grift goes on, grift goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain...

Steve Thomas

[Ron Ecker]

31 minutes ago, Dennis Berube said:

Regarding your prescriptions... yes he is probably shortening your life, although not intentionally. The story of nutrition and pharmaceutical drugs since 1950 or so is very interesting. Two good books to start with the pharmaceutical side are "Bottle of Lies" and "Deadly Medicine and Organized Crime". With nutrition, start with anything by Gary Taubes and Nina Teicholz's "Big Fat Surprise". 

Anything that keeps down my high blood pressure, mainly my prescriptions, I consider good. Which is one reason I hate Donald Trump so much. Thank God for my blood-pressure medicine.

 

 

 

[Steve Thomas]

America’s voice goes silent in Berlin as last US radio station closes

KCRW Berlin went off air this month.

By Nette Nöstlinger December 29, 2020

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-radio-station-kcrw-berlin-closes/

“In a country that had been force-fed a steady diet of Hitler’s favorite brass-band marches and Wagner for more than a decade, AFN’s American sound — from George Gershwin to Billie Holiday — was new and titillating. That was especially true in the 1950s, when rock ‘n’ roll emerged as the West’s most powerful cultural weapon.

The old post-war AFN network was “probably the best foreign policy instrument the U.S. had ever thought of,” former U.S. Ambassador to Germany John Kornblum, who also helped start KCRW Berlin, told the station recently.”

Steve Thomas

[Douglas Caddy]

[Ty Carpenter]

9 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:

I've always thought decently of and have tolerated mitch until now, but the swamp creatures are outing themselves. It should be abundantly clear to all, that absolutely no one in Washington gives a flying fart about any of us.

The government is out of control and is there to serve only themselves. I think of them as some sort of mafia organization but then remember even the mob has redeeming qualities at times. These rats do not.

Our forefathers revolted for much less!

[Joe Bauer]

13 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:

How can this man with a monetary financial worth of 24 million dollars and who has been an over $100,000 a year salaried government employee since 1991 with perhaps the best and most comprehensive benefits, perks and retirement entitlements in our entire nation, see tens of millions of his fellow Americans going through financial stress beyond anything they have ever experienced with unpaid rent, health and other insurance, car payments, food etc.etc. and think a measley $600 direct help check is adequate in addressing anything more than one of those needs for one month only?  Forget rent.

McConnell knows this one small check is so little it's promoting is truly simple cruelty. It's also totally unpatriotic.

 

 

[David Andrews]

Careful, McConnell: Trump will get a library and gravesite in Florida, but you'll be in a public cemetery in Kentucky.  The line of full bladders may be long...

Take video, tourists, the president just tweeted.

Edited December 30, 2020 by David Andrews

[David Andrews]

2 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

        Still, if a lady told me that her boyfriend was building bombs in his RV, I would have considered it a highly credible, serious threat.   It's a phenomenon that we see, repeatedly, in cases of mass shootings and domestic terrorism in the U.S.-- family members and friends reporting serious homicide threats that are ignored/denied by those who are in a position to intervene.  The examples are legion.

Here's an article on how the girlfriend and the former attorney warned police on Warner.  Notice how, in re the article by Priest and Arkin (posted above), the DoD's terrorism database was also consulted:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/30/nashville-bomber-girlfriend-warned-police-making-explosives

The police transported the girlfriend for psychiatric observation...

Edited December 30, 2020 by David Andrews

[Kirk Gallaway]

5 hours ago, Dennis Berube said:

You guys make me laugh sometimes, thank you. Let us be careful not to infringe on the forum policies however. 

Every conspiracy is mind boggling when you first hear about it, perceptions...

Instead of me supplying you with "factoids" which some of our members would undoubtedly recoil to the safety of various MSM articles in order to reacquaint their beliefs, I recommend looking for yourself. I've posted various places where this information is available several times. The general "plan" is well known and talked about openly, its overtly called the great reset. The political reaction to covid has been designed to assist that plan. 

Regarding your prescriptions... yes he is probably shortening your life, although not intentionally. The story of nutrition and pharmaceutical drugs since 1950 or so is very interesting. Two good books to start with the pharmaceutical side are "Bottle of Lies" and "Deadly Medicine and Organized Crime". With nutrition, start with anything by Gary Taubes and Nina Teicholz's "Big Fat Surprise". 

Dennis said: Let us be careful not to infringe on forum policies??  Geesh Dennis, why would you assume Cliff and I are in any position to talk about your sexuality? If you read carefully at all the context. Cliff inferred unlike Wheeler, you were a closet  right winger.

I had another such incident recently of Chris completely not listening to what I posted and commenting. You guys got to take a deep breathe and actually listen to what others are saying, before responding. It was all right there, in Cliff's response and my answer, if you weren't following it earlier..

Dennis said'---The general "plan" is well known and talked about openly, its overtly called the great reset. The political reaction to covid has been designed to assist that plan. 

 

Since you put quotes on "plan". So this is a plandemic? Dennis?

But back to Faucci , I think I might have the drift,  he's an integral part of this with Bill Gates and maybe George Soros?

******

Yeah Cliff, I caught the Trump tell.  That's why I also  mentioned the" Sleepy Joe". Straight from Trump's mouth!

Edited December 30, 2020 by Kirk Gallaway

[Adam Johnson]

4 hours ago, David Andrews said:

Charles Allen, a longtime senior CIA official who then led the DHS's intelligence office until 2009, said some senior people in the intelligence community are skeptical that SARs are an effective way to find terrorists. "It's more likely that other kinds of more focused efforts by local police will gain you the information that you need about extremist activities," he said.

 

The DHS can point to some successes: Last year the Colorado fusion center turned up information on Najibullah Zazi, an Afghan-born U.S. resident planning to bomb the New York subway system. In 2007, a Florida fusion center provided the vehicle ownership history used to identify and arrest an Egyptian student who later pleaded guilty to providing material support to terrorism, in this case transporting explosives.

An Afghan born us resident and an Egyptian student where two successes of the SAR's program. Whilst racial profiling cops a bad name, i'm guessing it would save a couple of hundred million in tech purchases and man hours of wasteful and unnecessary data collection on families out on a ferry ride to an island that were taking photographs. 

In all honesty, all of these intrusions on personal liberties is one day going to be widely accepted as normal. When planes are hijacked and rental trucks and RV's are used as weapons these surveillance systems give us answers to the who did it and why(usually).

Imagine if cctv and this kind of data collection was in place in 1962/63 on Dallas and New Orleans streets and on roaming cop cars, phone lines and above cash registers in shops( or even movie theatre concession stands) everywhere. Even on buses and in taxis as it is today. Our great mystery "Lee Harvey Oswald" wouldn't be such a 57 year old mystery as he still is today.

Its the illusion of safety in an advanced society that has to maintained. Make crime harder for people to undertake and make it almost impossible to get away with undetected and you can sustain the illusion of public safety. 

 

 

[Paul Brancato]

2 minutes ago, Adam Johnson said:

An Afghan born us resident and an Egyptian student where two successes of the SAR's program. Whilst racial profiling cops a bad name, i'm guessing it would save a couple of hundred million in tech purchases and man hours of wasteful and unnecessary data collection on families out on a ferry ride to an island that were taking photographs. 

In all honesty, all of these intrusions on personal liberties is one day going to be widely accepted as normal. When planes are hijacked and rental trucks and RV's are used as weapons these surveillance systems give us answers to the who did it and why(usually).

Imagine if cctv and this kind of data collection was in place in 1962/63 on Dallas and New Orleans streets and on roaming cop cars, phone lines and above cash registers in shops( or even movie theatre concession stands) everywhere. Even on buses and in taxis as it is today. Our great mystery "Lee Harvey Oswald" wouldn't be such a 57 year old mystery as he still is today.

Its the illusion of safety in an advanced society that has to maintained. Make crime harder for people to undertake and make it almost impossible to get away with undetected and you can sustain the illusion of public safety. 

 

 

Check out the British series called The Capture.

A general observation on your post, which I presume shows that you favor the ‘surveillance state’ - I would much rather live in a society that focused on redressing wrongs such as racial and economic injustice and rethinking the distribution of wealth so that the poor have a bigger slice of the pie and maybe a good paying job at the least. The causes of ‘terrorism’ interest me, preventing acts of violence by increasing police presence not so much. 
 

[Steve Thomas]

My life is over.

Dawn Wells, who played the castaway Mary Ann Summers on "Gilligan's Island," died in Los Angeles on Wednesday from Covid-19. She was 82.

I have nothing left to live for.

Steve Thomas

[Adam Johnson]

Hi Paul, 

Not really a fan of the surveillance state at all, but unfortunately i have accepted that it is the way of the present and the future. 

You mentioned   not being a fan of "preventing acts of violence by increasing police presence." I dont think we will have to worry about physical police presence in years to come, but i am very worried about this...