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Thank you. Richard, for pulling together this compendium of relevant statutes. The ABC national news tonight reported that 140 House Republicans plan to challenge the rightfully designated electors from some states as well as do a few senators. It will be an attempt to overthrow the government, thus meeting the import of the statutes you have cited. Give credit to Senator McConnell for the first time in memory as he said this is the most momentous vote that has occurred since he was elected to the senate. He warned GOP senators not to go down this path.

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Thank you Douglas.  I felt I had to post something to try and show those who are saying that we need to put this behind us and move on, that they need to consider more extreme measures.  As a student of history, I find it obscene that these Congressmen and Senators are taking these actions on behalf of a "single" beneficiary - Trump.  At least the group that last performed a similar action, were doing so on behalf of a "shared cause" and not to benefit ONE man.  The fact that the current day activities are in behalf of one man (who wishes to be dictator), make their acts FAR more insidious  They, by these acts are intending to make the ENTIRE country slaves to THEIR agenda and their God Like "Fuhrer".  This is happening when they are a 30% or so representation of the population.  If allowed to go unpunished, that percentage will grow and they will get more virulent and violent in order for the minority to exert total control of the majority.  The former group (Civil War era), for the most part, had no intention of taking over the US Federal government, but instead wanted to secede from the union and establish its own territorial rule over those of a similar mind and geographic area.

It is my thought that if some sort of punishment or rebuke is not issued, much like the Missouri Compromise, we have only delayed the misery and conflict and will pay dearly.

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Legal Expert Calls on Biden to 'Nominate Obama As Attorney General'

By Darragh Roche On 1/2/2

https://www.newsweek.com/legal-expert-biden-nominate-obama-attorney-general-1558489

 

“[Douglas] Kmiec notes that "[a]ppointing Obama certainly would be unprecedented" as a former president has never gone on to lead a department of the federal government in this way, but Kmiec goes on to say it would be "perfect preparation for subsequent additional public service on the Supreme Court."”

I have to say, I never saw that one coming.

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4 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

If I had seen this forty years ago, I probably never would have recovered.

https://digg.com/video/seattles-space-needle-new-years-light-show

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Wow. I was 8 miles away and missed it hahaha. I guess it was virtual?

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5 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

He's there to continue the scam.

Republican Senators are now joining the rush to scam stupid supporters into sending them money. It's so funny that these idiots fall for this crap and now all the low rent Rs are rushing in such as Blackburn, Cruz, Lankford etc absolutely knowing it will make no difference but they see Trump conning these clowns and don't want to miss out. 

I'm sure Wheeler's kids are going to have to go to State colleges or maybe Junior colleges now hahaha. "Forget Princeton now, Bobby. It looks like we're going to have to shoot for Capella Online U!"

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cruz-joins-gop-senate-block-that-will-challenge-bidens-victory_n_5ff0baa4c5b6e7974fd39454

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -U.S. Senator Ted Cruz on Saturday said he will be among a dozen Republican senators who will challenge President-elect Joe Biden’s victory when Electoral College results are tallied in Congress next week – a largely symbolic move that has little chance of preventing Biden from taking office.

https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/expulsion/036CivilWarCases1_expulsion.htm

Whereas a conspiracy has been formed against the peace, union, and liberties of the people and Government of the United States; and in furtherance of such conspiracy a portion of the people of the States of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Texas, have attempted to withdraw those States from the Union, and are now in arms against the Government; and whereas [the senators from those states] have failed to appear in their seats in the Senate and to aid the Government in this important crisis; and it is apparent to the Senate that said Senators are engaged in said conspiracy for the destruction of the Union and Government, or, with full knowledge of such conspiracy, have failed to advise the Government of its progress or aid in its suppression: Therefore,

Resolved, That the said Mason, Hunter, Clingman, Bragg, Chesnut, Nicholson, Sebastian, Mitchel, Hemphill, and Wigfall be, and they hereby are, each and all of them, expelled from the Senate of the United States.

"They have taken up arms against the Government; . . . their guns are now within sound of your capital; and shall we sit here in the Senate and deliberate and doubt whether we shall turn out of this Senate the very men who are ready to explode those guns against your capital?. . . let them be ejected from the councils of the nation." Near the conclusion of the arguments, James A. McDougall (D-CA) derided the cautions of his California colleague Latham when he dryly noted that there might be no moral turpitude in their actions because, "Treason was always a gentlemanly crime. . . . However, it is none the less a crime. . . . No man has a right to a place on this floor who espouses a cause adverse to the Government."

The angry mood prevailed, and on July 11, 1861, the Senate voted 32 to 10 to expel the ten senators.

Source: U.S. Senate Historical Office, United States Senate Election, Expulsion and Censure Cases: 1793-1990 (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1995), pp. 95-98.

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Ted Cruz is  another loon! He thinks this could help him be President in the future? He'll never be President!

Maybe it's time we take our own page from the Brits , and have a REDNEXIT!

 

 

heh heh

Here's an article about the Trump covid debauchery!  It turns out Mark Meadows is more hardcore than he ever let on. Also super hardcore is Stephen Miller, of course no surprise! And of course Scott Atlas who was  our resident "herd immunity" guy was recruited from Fox News!

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/us/politics/trump-coronavirus.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210101&instance_id=25566&nl=the-morning&regi_id=61798350&segment_id=48160&te=1&user_id=48552702f942aacb0810b9de5ca41c55

 

 

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8 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

America is so compromised now that its destruction is a real possibility.

As Understanding of Russian Hacking Grows, So Does Alarm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-understanding-of-russian-hacking-grows-so-does-alarm/ar-BB1cpAdA?ocid=UE07DHP&li=BBnb7Kz

The primary sources investigating this presumed “attack” have not as yet identified a responsible entity beyond a “nation-state” actor, presumed as such due to the stated “sophistication’ of the activity.

See:  https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2020/12/21/december-21st-2020-solorigate-resource-center/.

(Last updated Dec 31)

Nation-states believed to possess the stated capabiities include the US, China, Russia, Israel, and the UK. Whether this was a state-directed operation or a “rogue” event directed by a factional interest, is simply, at the moment, unknown.

Therefore, the New York Times, yet again, is irresponsibly misinforming its readership by publishing claims of Russian responsibility which have no corresponding evidence and are contradicted by the published primary record. Why the NYTimes insists on doing this is unknown, but the more interesting question is why the Times is allowed any credibility on this or any issue related to attribution of Russian culpability when most of its publishing on the topic has been utterly wrong again and again for at least the past four years.

Wednesday marks the fourth anniversary of the infamous Intelligence Community Assessment which, it is now known, used the thoroughly discredited “Steele Dossier” to publicly accuse an incoming US administration of treasonous links to an official adversary. I would say much of the rancour and partisan division currently enveloping the USA can be tracked back to the publication and broad endorsement of that highly dubious document.

As the article shared by Kirk above clearly shows, Trump’s basic incompetence and lack of qualification could have and should have been dealt with by the simple application of politics, instead of a ridiculous evidence-free conspiracy theory amplified with hysterical coverage by the legacy media. America’s current troubles are in actuality an “own-goal”.

It’s interesting that the continuing attempts to reverse the election result base themselves on procedural regulations. It is one of the dark secrets of constitutional democracies that there is always a legal fail-safe to disavow the “will of the people”, although meant only to be deployed as a “nuclear option” in response to highly unlikely events such as a Black Panther Party candidate winning the presidency. Such a nuclear option was in fact deployed in Australia in 1975 with the removal of the Whitlam government by a form of royal consent. The full extent of this act, formally denied by the Australian government and media for decades, was only revealed this past summer by a very stubborn determined effort using Australia’s Freedom of Information laws. Regardless, there is almost no chance for success in overturning Biden’s inauguration later this month, so the congressional support for such can be read as really about posturing for future position. The sound argument against the damaging effect of these legal manoeuvres to the nation’s polity, would find consistency with criticizing the likewise rash publication of the ICA four years ago.

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1 hour ago, Jeff Carter said:

The primary sources investigating this presumed “attack” have not as yet identified a responsible entity beyond a “nation-state” actor, presumed as such due to the stated “sophistication’ of the activity.

See:  https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/2020/12/21/december-21st-2020-solorigate-resource-center/.

(Last updated Dec 31)

Nation-states believed to possess the stated capabiities include the US, China, Russia, Israel, and the UK. Whether this was a state-directed operation or a “rogue” event directed by a factional interest, is simply, at the moment, unknown.

Therefore, the New York Times, yet again, is irresponsibly misinforming its readership by publishing claims of Russian responsibility which have no corresponding evidence and are contradicted by the published primary record. Why the NYTimes insists on doing this is unknown, but the more interesting question is why the Times is allowed any credibility on this or any issue related to attribution of Russian culpability when most of its publishing on the topic has been utterly wrong again and again for at least the past four years.

Wednesday marks the fourth anniversary of the infamous Intelligence Community Assessment which, it is now known, used the thoroughly discredited “Steele Dossier” to publicly accuse an incoming US administration of treasonous links to an official adversary.

If the goal was to defeat the Trump Administration why wasn’t the Steele Dossier publicized widely before the election?

It didn’t make cable news at all before the vote.

The current Russia Hack story has been in the 24-hour Cable News Cycle for weeks.  But the Russia DNC Hack story in 2016 only made the News Cycle twice — June 14/15 and July 24/25.  

When Obama accused the Russians of interfering in the Election on Oct. 7 it was reported once.

The News Cycle is all about repetition.

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I would say much of the rancour and partisan division currently enveloping the USA can be tracked back to the publication and broad endorsement of that highly dubious document.

That’s because of your egregious mis-reading of American politics.

The Steele Dossier wasn’t mentioned by name in this article.

That should tell you something...

https://news.yahoo.com/u-s-intel-officials-probe-ties-between-trump-adviser-and-kremlin-175046002.html

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