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A Broken Party Acquitted Donald Trump In His Second Impeachment

“The ex-president’s boast he could get away with murder proved true.”

By Paul Blumenthal 02/13/2021

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-impeachment-acquit_n_6027e114c5b6f88289fbfc0f

“Back in January 2016, before Donald Trump won his first presidential primary, before he secured his position atop the Republican Party and before he won the White House, he mused about the unbreakable bond between himself and his supporters with a joke about murder.

“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters,” Trump said, to a laughing audience, while pointing his finger at them like a gun. “OK? It’s, like, incredible.”

What was once true of his supporters is now true of nearly the entire Republican Party.”

“Trump stood in the middle of Washington, D.C., pointed his supporters at Congress and fired. Seven people ― three police officers, including two by suicide, and four Trump supporters ― died as a result of the president’s actions. And his party let him off the hook.”

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The GOP Just Spit in the Face of American Democracy

bt Michael Tomasky Feb. 13, 2021

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-gop-just-spit-in-the-face-of-american-democracy-by-acquitting-trump-at-his-second-impeachment-trial?ref=home

“Well, now we know. We know how the Republican Party wants to go down in history. They’ve made it as clear as could be.

First, two-thirds of the members of the Republican caucus of the House of Representatives voted on Jan. 6 to refuse to affirm the results of the presidential election. They continued doing so, we know, after the riot, after Capitol Hill Police Officer Brian Sicknick lay dead, after a mob had defaced the Capitol building. Denying Joe Biden the presidency was, of course, the mission of the mob. So two-thirds of House Republicans voted to condone the mob. And now, we’ve seen that 86 percent of Republican senators have voted to deny what’s in front of their noses and insist that Donald Trump bears no blame they can provide for the riot he incited.

In sum, congressional Republicans have put themselves on record saying that they are, in effect, untroubled by the worst assault on our democracy since the Civil War. The rioters were justified, said the two-thirds of House Republicans who agreed that Biden wasn’t really elected. And Senate Republicans said that the president who urged them to march on the Capitol and fight like hell or you won’t have a country anymore and then sat back and watched and did nothing to stop it (and to this day has never denounced it) bore no responsibility for the assault, or at least none that they could mete out. Those 43 Republicans just spit in the face of American democracy.”

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The Democrats controlled the process. There was never a witness called in either of these impeachment hearings. They could admit as many witnesses as they want to and deny witnesses to the Republicans if they chose to. But of course they have to be seen as approaching some modicum of fairness. So they didn't.

As I said, I think they should have just waited and let the evidence against Trump accrue.  But they chose to have the trial.

So the Democrats caved, There's no doubt that even having Beutler  by  Zoom would have had a strong effect but having her testify in person would have had a stirring effect. But the reality is, it may have pushed one or two more GOP Senators to convict but not change the outcome. I suspect the Dems came in that morning with the set position that they'd end up reading  the text of what Beutler has said and get it over with quick, because ...... everybody just wants to go home!!!.

Keep in mind Trump's base never had a political agenda and was never expecting any sort of tangible political performance by Trump, he's just there to express their personal and cultural frustrations and grievances. As to any substantial evaluation of Trump, they curiously look to the Democrats and the more hot and bothered and the more obsessed the Democrats are to want Trump's hide is the barometer by which they devote themselves to Trump. The best thing the Democrats can do now is just not talk about Trump, but talk about the future,talk about administering relief from the covid pandemic and it's economic displacement, and an infrastructure bill, and do their best to pull it off.

Ted Lieu did say it right, the Democrats don't need to worry about Trump winning an election in 2024, but the Republic has to worry about Trump losing in 2024. But even though he controls the majority of the Republican party,  now I think he's been sufficiently damaged that even that won't happen. Trump's never been able to hold consistently over 40%. Even with a social media presence, without the bully pulpit, he can't provide a diet of himself every day to everyone anymore. What's he going to do? Some of these people are going to have to move on with their lives just out of necessity. The more people live in their own skin, and start living their own reality, rather than looking to a politician. The more Trump fades into the background.

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50 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

The Democrats controlled the process. There was never a witness called in either of these impeachment hearings. They could admit as many witnesses as they want to and deny witnesses to the Republicans if they chose to. But of course they have to be seen as approaching some modicum of fairness. So they didn't.

As I said, I think they should have just waited and let the evidence against Trump accrue.  But they chose to have the trial.

So the Democrats caved, There's no doubt that even having Beutler by Zoom would have had a strong effect but having her testify in person would have had a stirring effect. But the reality is, ...

The reality is that even if Beutler testified as to her knowledge of Trump's unbelievable dereliction of Presidential duty to protect the victim's of his wild eyed, death threat screaming, window smashing "Brown Shirt" MAGA mob attack on the Capital building coversation with McCarthy and even if Kevin McCarthy himself publicly acknowledged the conversation in that context, the impeachment charge did not specfically include one of addressing the later non-action of Trump in letting the murderous attack go on so long without needed back up security help.

Trump's later holding back needed security help is as criminal as his months long effort ( and January 6th one ) to incite his looney base to violently storm the Capital Building and both combined would have had him convicted of the impeachement charge easily by a truly inbiased jury.

Keep in mind Trump's base never had a political agenda and was never expecting any sort of tangible political performance by Trump, he's just there to express their personal and cultural frustrations and grievances.

Absolutely true.

The best thing the Democrats can do now is just not talk about Trump, but talk about the future,talk about administering relief from the covid pandemic and it's economic displacement, and an infrastructure bill, and do their best to pull it off.

Again true.

Ted Lieu did say it right, the Democrats don't need to worry about Trump winning an election in 2024, but the Republic has to worry about Trump losing in 2024. 

 

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     Senator Lindsay Graham (R-SC) suggested today that a future Republican-controlled Congress should impeach Kamala Harris for her support of the Black Lives Matter protests-- because, apparently, attacking Congress to overturn the results of an free and fair election is equivalent to protesting about police violence toward  black people.

     Graham also criticized Mitch McConnell for admitting that Trump is guilty of inciting the attack on the Capitol.

     Unreal.   Is there a slimier creature in the Trump swamp than Lindsay Graham?  

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9 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

“Trump stood in the middle of Washington, D.C., pointed his supporters at Congress and fired. Seven people ― three police officers, including two by suicide, and four Trump supporters ― died as a result of the president’s actions. And his party let him off the hook.”

 

I wonder if the Trumpyites (troglodytes) are proud of themselves. That's a hell of a casualty list.

7 dead. 140 wounded.

What's next? Shiloh? Antietam?

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I just hope that already there are plans to show ALL the individual congressional (Senate & House) members hugging and kissing up to their insurrectionist "leader".  I think some of the PAC's should start right now showing PSA's of the members who voted to acquit and their complete hypocricy of words and deed.  Though, just like additional witnesses at the impeachment, it won't affect the current "cult members", maybe it could avert others joining.  We are entering a dangerous time (similar to when Hitler emerged from prison and began part 2 of his ascendancy).  If pressure is not continually applied, we may be in a far worse place in four years.  It will take a decade or MORE to undo the damage Trump has done in less than four years.  He found and mobilized the "rotting underbelly" of our republic and activated it just as Hitler did in the Weimar Republic.  If the Republicans can thwart an economic recovery under Biden, we will soon be in an untenable place.  These "great patriots" have the nation on its knees, because men with morality, courage, dedication and action are required to KEEP a republic strong and secure.  There are however, only 17 such individuals within the nationally elected officials (OUT OF 261).  That is barely over 6% of these "conservative constitutionalist GOP members".

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Nikki Haley "now" publicly proclaiming supporting Trump was wrong?

Talk about "closing the barn door after the horses have already left" ...

Haley's newly strong Trump support regret comes so long after all those horses not only ran out...but breeded and had a second generation to boot!

Sorry, but talk about lost credibility disingenuousness.

Washington (CNN)Former US ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley directly criticized former President Donald Trump for his involvement stoking the US Capitol riot in a new interview, a notable condemnation from someone who is widely viewed as harboring presidential hopes in a party that is still in thrall to Trump.

"We need to acknowledge he let us down," she told Politico magazine in an interview published Friday. "He went down a path he shouldn't have, and we shouldn't have followed him, and we shouldn't have listened to him. And we can't let that ever happen again."
Haley has often attempted to walk a fine line between allying herself with Trump -- who remains a hugely popular figure within the party -- while distancing herself enough to appeal to his Republican and moderate critics. She notably left his administration in 2018 on good terms with Trump, a contrast to many other officials who have publicly fallen out with their former boss.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

The best thing the Democrats can do now is just not talk about Trump, but talk about the future,talk about administering relief from the covid pandemic and it's economic displacement, and an infrastructure bill, and do their best to pull it off.

I agree with you Kirk, unfortunately, this is apparently not what we are getting from the Biden administration. In almost every major post, it seems Biden defers to some of the worst corporate actors in the world, like Monsanto for instance.

 

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We all surely know about the 500,000 shares of Monsanto stock the B&M Gates Foundation bought in 2010. Then there's Biden taking away funds for farmers.

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Call me crazy, but the WEF states very clearly that they do not want people to eat meat anymore due to the supposed climate effects. This is well known to be false, watch/read "The Sacred Cow" for instance. It makes me very nervous when Joe Biden has already consistently taken talking/action points from an unelected group of financial elite that say we will own nothing and be happy and that America will not be a superpower any longer in the future. Why has our media or valiant "left wing" not created an uproar over Vilsack? You literally could not pick a worse person for Ag secretary. It's as bad as a pick as Bolton was, maybe worse in the long run.

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6 of Roger Stone's Bodyguards have been found to have breached the Capitol

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/roger-stone-capitol-riots-oath-keeper-b1802276.html

Just a thought. If Roger Stone was to face trial again. and a group of anti Warren Report/ JFKA Conspriracy people were to arrive with signs saying we denounce JFKA conspiracy opportunists such as Stone and all Trump conspiracies, how would MSM react to that story? The thought is almost funny, but you may be surprised that the perceived novelty could be the greatest attention getter for the cause as any story in recent years. Though in the present, as all of us, I'm hoping for the most possible success for Destiny Betrayed.

 

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Richard says: If the Republicans can thwart an economic recovery under Biden, we will soon be in an untenable place. 

Boy that's right Richard. And that would inevitably would have been the case if Mitch Mac Connell was running things. The fact that the Democrats narrowly  got control is everything, but now they have to deliver.

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