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9 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

“Trump stood in the middle of Washington, D.C., pointed his supporters at Congress and fired. Seven people ― three police officers, including two by suicide, and four Trump supporters ― died as a result of the president’s actions. And his party let him off the hook.”

 

I wonder if the Trumpyites (troglodytes) are proud of themselves. That's a hell of a casualty list.

7 dead. 140 wounded.

What's next? Shiloh? Antietam?

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I just hope that already there are plans to show ALL the individual congressional (Senate & House) members hugging and kissing up to their insurrectionist "leader".  I think some of the PAC's should start right now showing PSA's of the members who voted to acquit and their complete hypocricy of words and deed.  Though, just like additional witnesses at the impeachment, it won't affect the current "cult members", maybe it could avert others joining.  We are entering a dangerous time (similar to when Hitler emerged from prison and began part 2 of his ascendancy).  If pressure is not continually applied, we may be in a far worse place in four years.  It will take a decade or MORE to undo the damage Trump has done in less than four years.  He found and mobilized the "rotting underbelly" of our republic and activated it just as Hitler did in the Weimar Republic.  If the Republicans can thwart an economic recovery under Biden, we will soon be in an untenable place.  These "great patriots" have the nation on its knees, because men with morality, courage, dedication and action are required to KEEP a republic strong and secure.  There are however, only 17 such individuals within the nationally elected officials (OUT OF 261).  That is barely over 6% of these "conservative constitutionalist GOP members".

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Nikki Haley "now" publicly proclaiming supporting Trump was wrong?

Talk about "closing the barn door after the horses have already left" ...

Haley's newly strong Trump support regret comes so long after all those horses not only ran out...but breeded and had a second generation to boot!

Sorry, but talk about lost credibility disingenuousness.

Washington (CNN)Former US ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley directly criticized former President Donald Trump for his involvement stoking the US Capitol riot in a new interview, a notable condemnation from someone who is widely viewed as harboring presidential hopes in a party that is still in thrall to Trump.

"We need to acknowledge he let us down," she told Politico magazine in an interview published Friday. "He went down a path he shouldn't have, and we shouldn't have followed him, and we shouldn't have listened to him. And we can't let that ever happen again."
Haley has often attempted to walk a fine line between allying herself with Trump -- who remains a hugely popular figure within the party -- while distancing herself enough to appeal to his Republican and moderate critics. She notably left his administration in 2018 on good terms with Trump, a contrast to many other officials who have publicly fallen out with their former boss.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

The best thing the Democrats can do now is just not talk about Trump, but talk about the future,talk about administering relief from the covid pandemic and it's economic displacement, and an infrastructure bill, and do their best to pull it off.

I agree with you Kirk, unfortunately, this is apparently not what we are getting from the Biden administration. In almost every major post, it seems Biden defers to some of the worst corporate actors in the world, like Monsanto for instance.

 

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We all surely know about the 500,000 shares of Monsanto stock the B&M Gates Foundation bought in 2010. Then there's Biden taking away funds for farmers.

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Call me crazy, but the WEF states very clearly that they do not want people to eat meat anymore due to the supposed climate effects. This is well known to be false, watch/read "The Sacred Cow" for instance. It makes me very nervous when Joe Biden has already consistently taken talking/action points from an unelected group of financial elite that say we will own nothing and be happy and that America will not be a superpower any longer in the future. Why has our media or valiant "left wing" not created an uproar over Vilsack? You literally could not pick a worse person for Ag secretary. It's as bad as a pick as Bolton was, maybe worse in the long run.

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6 of Roger Stone's Bodyguards have been found to have breached the Capitol

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/roger-stone-capitol-riots-oath-keeper-b1802276.html

Just a thought. If Roger Stone was to face trial again. and a group of anti Warren Report/ JFKA Conspriracy people were to arrive with signs saying we denounce JFKA conspiracy opportunists such as Stone and all Trump conspiracies, how would MSM react to that story? The thought is almost funny, but you may be surprised that the perceived novelty could be the greatest attention getter for the cause as any story in recent years. Though in the present, as all of us, I'm hoping for the most possible success for Destiny Betrayed.

 

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Richard says: If the Republicans can thwart an economic recovery under Biden, we will soon be in an untenable place. 

Boy that's right Richard. And that would inevitably would have been the case if Mitch Mac Connell was running things. The fact that the Democrats narrowly  got control is everything, but now they have to deliver.

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January 6, 2021

Dear Mr. Troglodyte,

Involuntary manslaughter is defined as the unintentional death of an individual as a result of another person's negligent actions.

In the United States, all states define negligent homicide by statute, often defining the offense as involuntary manslaughter.[1]

 

https://reischlawfirm.com/criminally-negligent-homicide-vs-manslaughter-whats-difference/

“The law states that you can be charged with criminally negligent homicide if your criminally negligent behavior caused the death of another person. On the other hand, the law states that you can be charged with manslaughter if your reckless behavior caused the death of another person. Therefore, the difference between these two crimes is the type of behavior that caused the victim’s death.

Criminal Negligence vs. Reckless Behavior

Criminal negligence is legally defined as the failure to realize that your behavior is so dangerous that it could kill someone. In order to prove you were criminally negligent, the prosecution must be able to show that a reasonable person in your situation would have realized that their behavior was potentially dangerous.

In the eyes of the law, you are reckless when you act in a manner that puts others at risk even though you are aware that your behavior could seriously harm or kill another person.

To put it simply, the difference between these two legal definitions comes down to risk awareness. A person who is criminally negligent did not realize his behavior was dangerous, even though he should have, whereas a reckless person knew his behavior was dangerous, but ignored the risks.”

Steve Thomas

 

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On 2/14/2021 at 9:34 AM, Kirk Gallaway said:

Trump's never been able to hold consistently over 40%. Even with a social media presence, without the bully pulpit, he can't provide a diet of himself every day to everyone anymore. What's he going to do? Some of these people are going to have to move on with their lives just out of necessity. The more people live in their own skin, and start living their own reality, rather than looking to a politician. The more Trump fades into the background.

Yes I think Trump will do a fade. What the percentile numbers show at 40% is what I believe to be a skewed number as independents and centrists have leaked out of the party and their overall number is much lower. Sure maybe 40% is still there but I believe its out of a vastly lower number total. They've f'd themselves and really have been doing this for decades by trying to appeal to a base that is made up of Tea Party types (the old Confederacy basically) that can't govern in a majority. 

Unfortunately this makes the Dems govern in more of a coalition type of party which sidelines some pretty important issues (although I don't go for all the left wing stuff either).

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Just now, Bob Ness said:

Yes I think Trump will do a fade. What the percentile numbers show at 40% is what I believe to be a skewed number as independents and centrists have leaked out of the party and their overall number is much lower. Sure maybe 40% is still there but I believe its out of a vastly lower number total. They've f'd themselves and really have been doing this for decades by trying to appeal to a base that is made up of Tea Party types (the old Confederacy basically) that can't govern in a majority. 

Unfortunately this makes the Dems govern in more of a coalition type of party which sidelines some pretty important issues (although I don't go for all the left wing stuff either).

That's interesting Bob,when they talk of 67 % of Republicans that believe that the election was stolen. Is that registered Republicans? If so,registered Republicans are really only 25% of the population. That would mean that the % of Republicans who believe the election was stolen is really only 16-17% of the total population.

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6 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

That's interesting Bob,when they talk of 67 % of Republicans that believe that the election was stolen. Is that registered Republicans? If so,registered Republicans are really only 25% of the population. That would mean that the % of Republicans who believe the election was stolen is really only 16-17% of the total population.

I suppose it depends on who is doing the counting and how they're doing it but yes, that's the thrust of my point. I doubt they'll be able cross the finish line with most of the country save the Confederacy. The Republicans are making it so bad they're going to have cheat to win national seats (which they've done before) because they can't garner enough votes to win a popular election. With Texas shading blue and the possibility of losing Florida during the next cycle they won't be able to get an electoral college win. Zero chance without Florida and less than zero if Texas tanks.

The million dollar question is always "Will the reliably idiotic Democrat party leaders be able to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory yet once again?" Never underestimate the density of the Dem "brain trust".

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"Former President Donald Trump and attorney Rudy Giuliani are being accused of conspiring with the far-right groups Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to incite the January 6 insurrection in a civil lawsuit filed Tuesday in federal court by the Democratic chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee and backed by the NAACP."

Read the lawsuit here:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/16/politics/dem-lawsuit-against-trump-naacp/index.html

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In my opinion, this would be a successful route to finding out the truth.

There are two elements I think that need to be explored: the meeting the night before, and Ali Alexander and his cooperations with certain congressmen.  The FBI should be using all kinds of methods to find this guy, including rewards. 

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1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said:

In my opinion, this would be a successful route to finding out the truth.

There are two elements I think that need to be explored: the meeting the night before, and Ali Alexander and his cooperations with certain congressmen.  The FBI should be using all kinds of methods to find this guy, including rewards. 

Jim,

For me, the most damning piece of evidence is the Permit.

Item# 62 on page 16 of the lawsuit says that the Permit expressly did not authorize any kind of of march. For me, at that point, when Trump told the crowd that "we are going to walk down Pennsylvania Ave.", he was breaking the law. He can't shroud himself in any kind of 1st Amendment legal protection or anything else.

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