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ADL: The Anti-Defamation League

https://www.adl.org/resources/glossary-terms/patriot-movement

"Patriot" Movement

“A collective term used to describe a set of related extremist movements and groups in the United States whose ideologies center on anti-government conspiracy theories. The most important segments of the “Patriot” movement include the militia movement, the sovereign citizen movement and the tax protest movement. Though each submovement has its own beliefs and concerns, they share a conviction that part or all of the government has been infiltrated and subverted by a malignant conspiracy and is no longer legitimate. Though there is some overlap between the “Patriot” movement and the white supremacist movement, that overlap has shrunk over time; there are, in fact, people of color within the “Patriot” movement, particularly within the sovereign citizen movement.”

Guess they can add the QAnon people to that list.

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Back to "normal" with the new Republican party. This is a disgrace. I guess we can start the international death toll count for Biden. Add this to his complete (FDA) inaction on the recent report about dangerous levels of heavy metals in baby food in the US and he's really off to a great start. Oh yeah, and his political censorship actions with BigTech. It would sound like a joke to even ask if Garland is going to actually prosecute these protected criminal banks or ignore them like Obama and Trump did. Is this seriously what the "left" wing consists of at this point?

 

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https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/02/27/trump-stewing-over-mccarthy-again-ahead-of-big-cpac-speech-491926

THE REAL STAR OF FRIDAY’S SHOW: A gilded, larger-than-life-size statue of Trump … and you’ll never guess where it was crafted.

It was made in Mexico,” said artist TOMMY ZEGAN, who traveled all the way to CPAC from Rosarito, Mexico, where he lives as an American expat on a permanent resident visa.

The supply chain: Zegan spent over six months crafting the 200-pound fiberglass statue with the help of three men in Rosarito. He transported it to Tampa, Fla., where it was painted in chrome, then hauled it from there to CPAC in a U-Haul, where he managed to cart it through the conference in just a black-and-white Hawaiian shirt and no CPAC credential. (Tickets were sold out.)

If someone offered me $100,000 I’d take it,” Zegan told Playbook.

I was not a big Trump supporter when he ran,” Zegan told me. “I mean I voted for him because I wasn’t going to vote for Hillary. So I voted for him, but I didn’t really care for him. I used to watch ‘The Apprentice’ but I would turn it off halfway. I thought, ‘This is stupid.’”

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Pro-Trump Republican secession rhetoric in Texas and elsewhere is more than a punchline

By Casey Michel February 28, 2021

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/pro-trump-republican-secession-rhetoric-texas-elsewhere-more-punchline-ncna1259016

 

“And it’s not just a tiny fringe that’s thinking about these concepts anymore. As the Bright Line Watch, a group of researchers from places like Dartmouth University, the University of Rochester, and University of Chicago, noted in a study released earlier in February, one-third of Republicans said they support secession. Disturbingly, half of Republicans across the former Confederacy (plus Kentucky and Oklahoma) are now willing to break off to form a newly independent country.”

“Perhaps not surprisingly, Texas is leading this charge. As The Daily Beast reported, a Texas state lawmaker — one who attended the Capitol rally on Jan. 6 and claimed it was “the most amazing day” — recently filed the first serious secession bill the country has seen since the Civil War. The Texas Republican Party promptly endorsed the bill, which would give Texans the right to vote in a secession referendum later this year, with Texas Gov. Greg Abbott refusing to denounce the legislation.”

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Mike Pence, apparently garnered just 1% of the C-PAC vote for 2024 GOP Presidential candidates today-- trailing such Never Masker GOP luminaries as Ron DeSantis and Kristi Noem.

This is all the thanks Pence gets for patiently standing and smiling while having to smell Donald Trump's horrible KFC farts for the past four years.  🤥

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Texas would never vote to secede from the United States. All the major cities in the state are liberal. Only the extreme right wing office holders -- Federal and State -- espouse the idea when they know it is not going anywhere. It sort of ranks with "Get the U.S. Out of the U.N. and the U.N. Out of the U.S." mantra that was talked about in the 1950s-1960s. In Texas it is more likely that the cities would secede from the State.

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1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Texas would never vote to secede from the United States. All the major cities in the state are liberal. Only the extreme right wing office holders -- Federal and State -- espouse the idea when they know it is not going anywhere. It sort of ranks with "Get the U.S. Out of the U.N. and the U.N. Out of the U.S." mantra that was talked about in the 1950s-1960s. In Texas it is more likely that the cities would secede from the State.

I fully agree.  But in the back of my mind I can't help but think of former President of the Republic of Texas Sam Houston, as Governor in 1861 not wanting to secede.

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3 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Texas would never vote to secede from the United States. All the major cities in the state are liberal. Only the extreme right wing office holders -- Federal and State -- espouse the idea when they know it is not going anywhere. It sort of ranks with "Get the U.S. Out of the U.N. and the U.N. Out of the U.S." mantra that was talked about in the 1950s-1960s. In Texas it is more likely that the cities would secede from the State.

All they would need to do is let us vote on it! Hahaha!! That would do the trick. We could split California in half so we could keep the 50 stars and the math still works for other stuff.

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11 hours ago, Bob Ness said:

All they would need to do is let us vote on it! Hahaha!! That would do the trick. We could split California in half so we could keep the 50 stars and the math still works for other stuff.

       Apparently, about half of all Republicans in former Confederate states, (in addition to Kentucky and Oklahoma) now want to secede from the U.S. 

      And Texas Governor Greg Abbott has not yet objected to a Republican Party resolution in Texas calling for secession.

      Meanwhile, for a little comic relief, here's Al Franken's re-creation of Mitch McConnell's post-impeachment acquittal speech.  🤥

 

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19 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Pro-Trump Republican secession rhetoric in Texas and elsewhere is more than a punchline

By Casey Michel February 28, 2021

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/pro-trump-republican-secession-rhetoric-texas-elsewhere-more-punchline-ncna1259016

Militia alliance in Georgia signals new phase for extremist paramilitaries

By Chris Joyner, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution February 4, 2021

https://www.ajc.com/news/militia-alliance-in-georgia-signals-new-phase-for-extremist-paramilitaries/UD2JMQV5A5EABHHAKBQZBK2IVY/

 

“The leader of a private paramilitary group that provided security for Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene said he has formed alliances with other far-right groups to advocate for Georgia’s secession from the union, following the arrests of participants in the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

“The way patriots are now being hunted down and arrested by fellow men and women who have taken the same oath has disheartened any faith I had in the redemption or reformation of the USA as one entity,” Justin Thayer, head of the Georgia III% Martyrs, said in a text exchange with The Atlanta Journal-Constitution this week.

Thayer said the Martyrs have allied themselves with fellow “Three Percenter” militia the American Brotherhood of Patriots and American Patriots USA (APUSA), a north Georgia group headed by Chester Doles, a Dahlonega resident who belonged to various racist and neo-poopoo hate groups before forming the new group in 2019. The combined groups will advocate for Georgia’s secession from the union through an amendment to the U.S. Constitution or through “the collapse of the American experiment,” Thayer said.

“For the last 150 years, the Imperial Yankee culture of the northeast has been molding Georgia — and the South in general — into its ‘perfect’ image,” he said.

In an AJC interview this week, Doles confirmed the groups were working together, but he would not say what they intended to do.

“Things are different now. Everything has changed,” he said. “We’ve seen our last Republican president in American history. The ballot box — we tried as hard as we could try. It’s not working.”

Researchers who study the far right say political unrest over the past year gave extremist groups opportunities to collaborate across ideological divides, forging alliances based on common grievances and enemies. The November presidential election and the proliferation of baseless conspiracy theories about its outcome only pushed groups closer together.

“We saw members of traditional militias, white supremacists, QAnon and other people in the same spaces and claiming very similar enemies,” said Amy Iandiorio, an investigative researcher with the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism.

This “shared victimhood narrative” around the outcome of the presidential election created the opportunity for “tactical” alliances among groups that normally wouldn’t mix, she said.

The Martyrs raised eyebrows this fall when they appeared as private security for then-candidate Greene at a rally in Ringgold with former GOP Sen. Kelly Loeffler. Greene posed for multiple photos with the militia and said she needed them to protect herself from unspecified death threats she said she had received.

On Jan. 6, Thayer joined throngs of pro-Trump supporters who rallied to hear the former president’s baseless claims of a “stolen” election and condemnation of “weak Republicans,” but he said he did not take part in storming the U.S. Capitol immediately after it.

Doles has been working longer to build support for his political group, staging occasional public rallies and motorcycle convoys from his north Georgia base. He claims to have walked away from his career as a white supremacist activist with groups like the Ku Klux Klan and the National Alliance, while also maintaining ties to some figures in those movements. His attempts to insinuate America Patriots USA into mainstream conservative politics have met with limited success, however.

Doles championed Greene’s candidacy on his website and on social media, often posting a photo of Greene posing with APUSA members taken during her Republican primary campaign.

But when he tried to attend the Ringgold rally in September with members of his group, Greene had the Martyrs remove him.

Thayer said he and Doles have patched things up since then.

“We both have the same objective and work with other organizations,” he said in a text. “So it was in the best interest of the movement to become ally’s (sic) and work together.”

Thayer said the alliance is working with other Georgia militias, but the AJC was unable to confirm those connections.

Thayer said the alliance was forged out of an “IRA/Sinn Féin type scenario.” The comparison to the paramilitary Irish Republican Army and Sinn Fein, an Irish political party, is apt.

Historically, Sinn Féin associated itself with the IRA during decades of violent conflict with the British government in Northern Ireland known as “The Troubles.” Similarly, Doles has sought to fashion his organization as a legitimate political group while using far-right paramilitary groups like the Brotherhood of American Patriots as “security.”

Hampton Stall, a militia researcher with the non-profit Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project, said the Jan. 6 assault has focused more attention on the militia movement, including attention from law enforcement and the media. Some leaders in the movement are responding by reaching out to groups with even more extreme ideologies.

I think we are going to see a lot of this coalition building with some pretty nasty actors,” he said.

The Martyrs’ connection to Greene, who spent years promoting the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory, illustrates the toxic blend of ideologies at work in the post-Jan. 6 extremist world. The alliance between the Martyrs and APUSA mixes a deeply anti-government ideology with a group rooted in white nationalism.

Conspiracy theories, like those expressed by QAnon adherents, and groups with white nationalist ties provide “onramps” for militia sects to transition into more violent rhetoric, Stall said. QAnon conspiracies about underground pedophilia rings run by Democrats and celebrities already are common inside online militia chatrooms, he said.

“Pretty much every Three Percent chat since 2018 has Q people in it,” he said. It’s a troubling development because of the the militia movement’s firepower, he said.

“The QAnon people are trying to figure out how to take their struggle into the world,” he said.

Since Jan. 6, the FBI has been appealing to the public to identify alleged rioters from photos posted on social media, while also defending itself against criticism that intelligence failures allowed the attempted insurrection. Kevin Rowson, spokesman for the Atlanta field office of the FBI, declined to comment on the announced alliance between the militias and APUSA saying the agency does not investigate people based on ideology.

“Regardless of group membership, our investigations focus solely on criminal activity of individuals,” he said. “Our efforts are focused on identifying, investigating and disrupting individuals that are inciting violence and engaging in criminal activity.””

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It seems to an outsider,  that Putin is gradually achieving his ambition to split the United States the way the Soviet Union was split in the late 1900's. Putin's dog will do anything his master tells him to do. 

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