W. Niederhut Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said: Appellate court dismisses the Flynn case for good. Don't get so excited about this latest screwball ruling by a Trump-appointed judge, Rob. Judge Neomi Rao is a former Trump administration lackey affiliated with Bill Barr's corrupt Federalist Society, and with the Antonin Scalia School (ASS) of Republican Bench Warmers at George Mason. She was nominated by Trump in January of 2019 to fill Brett Kavanaugh's vacant Appellate Court seat, and was quickly approved in a strict party-line 53 GOP Senate vote. (BTW, these are the same 53 corrupt GOP screwballs who deliberately ignored the overwhelming evidence of Trump's guilt in the Ukraine/Zelensky Extortion Scam.) But notice that "Just-Us" Rao and her Bush-appointed Republican colleague completely ignored the precedents of SCOTUS rulings authorizing judges to conduct independent evaluations of Executive branch actions. Trump Judge Neomi Rao’s Flynn Opinion Is Dangerous and Anti-Democratic slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/michael-flynn-neomi-rao-trump-barr-sullivan.html?via=features Edited June 24, 2020 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: Don't get so excited about this latest screwball ruling by a Trump-appointed judge, Rob. Judge Neomi Rao is a former Trump administration lackey affiliated with Bill Barr's corrupt Federalist Society, and with the Antonin Scalia School (ASS) of Republican Bench Warmers at George Mason. She was nominated by Trump in January of 2019 to fill Brett Kavanaugh's vacant Appellate Court seat, and was quickly approved in a strict party-line 53 GOP Senate vote. (BTW, these are the same 53 corrupt GOP screwballs who deliberately ignored the overwhelming evidence of Trump's guilt in the Ukraine/Zelensky Extortion Scam.) But notice that "Just-Us" Rao and her Bush-appointed Republican colleague completely ignored the precedents of SCOTUS rulings authorizing judges to conduct independent evaluations of Executive branch actions. Trump Judge Neomi Rao’s Flynn Opinion Is Dangerous and Anti-Democratic slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/michael-flynn-neomi-rao-trump-barr-sullivan.html?via=features Unless Sullivan dismisses the case it will most likely go en banc. Any of the court's judges can request an en banc hearing as can Sullivan. I believe the court sits 7-4 Dem nominated judges with Merrit Garland as the chief so yeah, hold off on the party hats for now. It's unfortunate that the courts have been turned into this kind of political tallying but that's the way it is and has been made worse by the simple majority confirmations we're seeing now. We can thank both Harry Reid and McConnell for that. I would guess that the future proceedings will go well into elections so Trump will have to pardon him if he dares. If the full DCC upholds the mandamus ruling Flynn's good to go most likely but if it gets reversed I expect SCOTUS to look at it. That would force a Trump pardon but opens Flynn up to future testimony without the benefit of the fifth amendment. My suspicion is Trump would prefer a commutation of a sentence but he needs to be sentenced first. Edited June 24, 2020 by Bob Ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said: Appellate court dismisses the Flynn case for good. New Strzok memo shows Obama, Biden OKed going after Flynn. The Logan act was Biden’s idea. At least when Biden says he can’t remember, he will be believable. All of this has nothing to do with the mandamus ruling and is just BS concocted to justify DOJs corruption. The "new" Strzok memo has been known about for years now. You do realize they were investigating an attack on our country right? Weren't you just flying the flag recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 21 hours ago, David Andrews said: Some useful asides about Epstein-Trump-Robert Maxwell, casinos, money laundering, fraud, and other delights -- at this podcast: https://narativ.org/2020/06/14/merchant-of-death/ ...And probably at links below also, though I haven't started the episodes on these pages yet: https://narativ.org/2020/06/07/crime-of-the-century/ https://narativ.org/2020/03/10/secret-life-of-jeffrey-epstein-season-2/ Features commentary by Steve Hoffenberg, former Epstein partner in Towers Financial (also featured in Filthy Rich). Hoffenberg says the sex ring and surveillance-blackmail business was protection for the financial chicanery and arms dealing. This is the kind of thing you don't get in Filthy Rich, whis is preoccupied with sexual victimology, like all of the media. One might wonder whether.... This is interesting. https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/alan-dershowitz-is-going-out-of-his-mind-about-jeffrey-epstein/30006/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Bob Ness said: Unless Sullivan dismisses the case it will most likely go en banc. Any of the court's judges can request an en banc hearing as can Sullivan. I believe the court sits 7-4 Dem nominated judges with Merrit Garland as the chief so yeah, hold off on the party hats for now. It's unfortunate that the courts have been turned into this kind of political tallying but that's the way it is and has been made worse by the simple majority confirmations we're seeing now. We can thank both Harry Reid and McConnell for that. I would guess that the future proceedings will go well into elections so Trump will have to pardon him if he dares. If the full DCC upholds the mandamus ruling Flynn's good to go most likely but if it gets reversed I expect SCOTUS to look at it. That would force a Trump pardon but opens Flynn up to future testimony without the benefit of the fifth amendment. My suspicion is Trump would prefer a commutation of a sentence but he needs to be sentenced first. The full court en bank, rather than hearing the case, may instead refer it directly to the U.S. Supreme Court. Such a move would cause the case to be a major issue in the presidential race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said: Appellate court dismisses the Flynn case for good. https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/ultra-trumpy-judge-slammed-by-legal-experts-for-ordering-flynn-case-thrown-out/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said: You do realize you are about 0 for 50. I know you are just here to make noise, but every once in a while you need to get something correct for credibility's sake. Even some of the low watt participants are figuring out the game here. Seriously Robert? Going for insults now? Must be the IV Clorox I guess. I absolutely predicted in another venue exactly that Rao and Henderson would rule this way. And that Sullivan would ask for an en banc review. I'd say there's about a 90% probability of that and a further move to SCOTUS. Sullivan could dismiss it too but I think the interference by Barr who is completely contradicting his own opinion gives the judge no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: The full court en bank, rather than hearing the case, may instead refer it directly to the U.S. Supreme Court. Such a move would cause the case to be a major issue in the presidential race. Don't you think they would want to weigh in? I think it was kind of ridiculous to even allow the writ. It clearly wasn't regular order. Flynn could appeal an adverse ruling and the judge hadn't even ruled on the motion. Neither had DOJ withdrawn their earlier sentencing memos. All of that makes it hard for me to believe it will stand. Rao and Henderson are supporting the position that the prosecutors can set up a cash register for defendents who can afford to pay to have their case dropped and the judge couldn't object. In a way that's what's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Bob Ness said: Don't you think they would want to weigh in? I think it was kind of ridiculous to even allow the writ. It clearly wasn't regular order. Flynn could appeal an adverse ruling and the judge hadn't even ruled on the motion. Neither had DOJ withdrawn their earlier sentencing memos. All of that makes it hard for me to believe it will stand. Rao and Henderson are supporting the position that the prosecutors can set up a cash register for defendents who can afford to pay to have their case dropped and the judge couldn't object. In a way that's what's happening. Yes,, this case is so important that it will eventually reach the Supreme Court, which will agree to hear the case. But you may be right that the Appeals Court will agree to hear the case en banc and then overturn the lower court decision and then the U.S. Supreme Court will agree not the hear an appeal from the Appeal Court's ruling, meaning that it would stand to Flynn's dismay. Edited June 25, 2020 by Douglas Caddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Dozens of Secret Service officers and agents told to self-quarantine after Trump’s Tulsa rally https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dozens-of-secret-service-officers-and-agents-told-to-self-quarantine-after-trumps-tulsa-rally/2020/06/24/22c08b36-b55f-11ea-aca5-ebb63d27e1ff_story.html?itid=hp_politics1-8-12_covidtulsa-755pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Trump Brother Was in ICU Just Before Filing Suit Over Tell-All https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-brother-robert-was-in-icu-just-before-filing-suit-over-niece-marys-tell-all/ https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/mary-trump-problem-just-got-even-uglier-for-him/30023/ Edited June 25, 2020 by Douglas Caddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Thomas Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Seems like we've got a ways to go yet. Confederate monument anyone? https://www.constituteproject.org/constitution/United_States_of_America_1992 Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992) Amendment XIII Section 1 Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. Minnesota and Oho (and perhaps others) have this same wording in their state constitutions. *sigh* Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: And Barr protects Epstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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