Ron Bulman Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: Mike Pence is as looney tunes as the rest of that Trumper crowd, only in a different way. I certainly appreciate him standing up for his country and its Constitution on 1/6, but he is also under the delusion that he could run for President and actually get the nomination, which is just cuckoo banana pants at this point... Which spits the party further, good ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Probably, although I'm not sure who Mike Pence's constituency would be nowadays. Along with you guys, I also absolutely hope he will testify; the head of his SS detail, Tim Giebels, was apparently questioned by the committee in the last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 DC insider explains a 'fundamental truth' about Trump's Jan. 6 coup attempt by Robert Reich December 31, 2021 https://www.rawstory.com/trump-coup-2656201435/ “But even with this help, Trump’s attempted coup could not have gotten this far without something more basic: A substantial portion of the American population feels an anger and despair that has made them susceptible to Trump’s swagger and lies. It is too simplistic to attribute this solely to racism or xenophobia. America has harbored white supremacist and anti-immigrant sentiments since its founding. The despair Trump has channeled is more closely connected to a profound loss of identity, dignity and purpose, especially among Americans who have been left behind – without college degrees, without good jobs, in places that have been economically abandoned and disdained by much of the rest of the country. The wages of these Americans have not risen in forty years, adjusted for inflation, even though the economy is now three times larger than it was four decades ago. The norm of upward mobility has been shattered for these Americans. Through their eyes, the entire American system is now rigged against them. This part of America yearns for a strongman to deliver it from despair. Trump has filled that void. To be sure, he’s filled it with bombast, lies, paranoia, and neofascism. But he has filled it nonetheless. The challenge ahead is to fill it with a democracy and economy that work for everyone. Unless we understand and respond to this fundamental truth, we will miss the true meaning of January 6.” Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 13 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: Where would we be now if they'd hung him? It might have been delayed further but wouldn't the speaker of the house have taken his place and the election certified anyway? Ron, No. As of January 6th, Donald Trump was still the President. He would have invoked the Insurrection Act, suspended habeus corpus and arrested the entire Congress. He would have declared the entire election null and void due to massive "corruption", and declared himself the "ruler" until everything could be straightened out. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 30 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said: DC insider explains a 'fundamental truth' about Trump's Jan. 6 coup attempt by Robert Reich December 31, 2021 https://www.rawstory.com/trump-coup-2656201435/ “But even with this help, Trump’s attempted coup could not have gotten this far without something more basic: A substantial portion of the American population feels an anger and despair that has made them susceptible to Trump’s swagger and lies. It is too simplistic to attribute this solely to racism or xenophobia. America has harbored white supremacist and anti-immigrant sentiments since its founding. The despair Trump has channeled is more closely connected to a profound loss of identity, dignity and purpose, especially among Americans who have been left behind – without college degrees, without good jobs, in places that have been economically abandoned and disdained by much of the rest of the country. The wages of these Americans have not risen in forty years, adjusted for inflation, even though the economy is now three times larger than it was four decades ago. The norm of upward mobility has been shattered for these Americans. Through their eyes, the entire American system is now rigged against them. This part of America yearns for a strongman to deliver it from despair. Trump has filled that void. To be sure, he’s filled it with bombast, lies, paranoia, and neofascism. But he has filled it nonetheless. The challenge ahead is to fill it with a democracy and economy that work for everyone. Unless we understand and respond to this fundamental truth, we will miss the true meaning of January 6.” Steve Thomas Steve T.- There is a very serious message in Robert Reich's commentary, regarding a population turned cynical about its leadership. The establishment GOP, and the Donks are oblivious.... Not only that, both parties are beholden to the globalist security state. "President Joe Biden signed the National Defense Authorization Act into law, authorizing $768.2 billion in military spending, including a 2.7% pay raise for service members, for 2022. The NDAA authorizes a 5% increase in military spending, and is the product of intense negotiations between Democrats and Republicans over issues ranging from reforms of the military justice system to COVID-19 vaccine requirements for soldiers." Well, 2022 doesn't look any better. But HNY anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Thomas said: DC insider explains a 'fundamental truth' about Trump's Jan. 6 coup attempt by Robert Reich December 31, 2021 https://www.rawstory.com/trump-coup-2656201435/ “But even with this help, Trump’s attempted coup could not have gotten this far without something more basic: A substantial portion of the American population feels an anger and despair that has made them susceptible to Trump’s swagger and lies. It is too simplistic to attribute this solely to racism or xenophobia. America has harbored white supremacist and anti-immigrant sentiments since its founding. The despair Trump has channeled is more closely connected to a profound loss of identity, dignity and purpose, especially among Americans who have been left behind – without college degrees, without good jobs, in places that have been economically abandoned and disdained by much of the rest of the country. The wages of these Americans have not risen in forty years, adjusted for inflation, even though the economy is now three times larger than it was four decades ago. The norm of upward mobility has been shattered for these Americans. Through their eyes, the entire American system is now rigged against them. This part of America yearns for a strongman to deliver it from despair. Trump has filled that void. To be sure, he’s filled it with bombast, lies, paranoia, and neofascism. But he has filled it nonetheless. The challenge ahead is to fill it with a democracy and economy that work for everyone. Unless we understand and respond to this fundamental truth, we will miss the true meaning of January 6.” Steve Thomas True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Total Scores/Overall Rankings | C-SPAN Survey on Presidents 2021 | C-SPAN.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Robert Reich is a smart man and he is dead-on with that piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Washington Examiner "Nancy Pelosi, husband buy call options worth millions in Google, Disney despite ethics concerns from party" by Barnini Chakraborty, Senior Investigations Reporter | December 31, 2021 WaPo "Pelosi announces plans for 'solemn observance' of first anniversary of the Jan. 6 insurrection" by By Amy B Wang / Jan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/nancy-pelosi-owns-january-6/ Interesting version of Jan. 6 events. My real question: Th Warren Commission decided, before "investigating," that LHO was the lone gunman, and everything devolved from that. We know the results of such a premise. If the 1/6 Committee decides before investigating that there were no federal instigators on 1/6...then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said: https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/nancy-pelosi-owns-january-6/ Interesting version of Jan. 6 events. My real question: Th Warren Commission decided, before "investigating," that LHO was the lone gunman, and everything devolved from that. We know the results of such a premise. If the 1/6 Committee decides before investigating that there were no federal instigators on 1/6...then what? Philip Zelicow supposedly worked out that the whole 9/11 conspiracy was carried by Al Qaeda, before doing any investigation. The commission was setup to show that. The science is that whoever is the architect of the study, and oversees the study, controls the outcome. Seeing a pattern here .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chris Barnard said: Philip Zelicow supposedly worked out that the whole 9/11 conspiracy was carried by Al Qaeda, before doing any investigation. The commission was setup to show that. The science is that whoever is the architect of the study, and oversees the study, controls the outcome. Seeing a pattern here .... If an official investigation confirms my biases, then it is good. If an official investigation does not confirm my biases, then it is ungood. If the M$M confirms my biases (which the M$M helped manufacture), then it is good.... Edited January 1, 2022 by Benjamin Cole typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said: If an official investigation confirms my biases, then it is good. If an official investigation does not confirm my biases, then it is ungood. If the M$M confirms my biases (which the M$M helped manufacture), then it is good.... Yup... Happy New Year Edited January 1, 2022 by Chris Barnard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 8:01 AM, Steve Thomas said: Ron, No. As of January 6th, Donald Trump was still the President. He would have invoked the Insurrection Act, suspended habeus corpus and arrested the entire Congress. He would have declared the entire election null and void due to massive "corruption", and declared himself the "ruler" until everything could be straightened out. Steve Thomas Among the items that Bernie Kerik refused to turn over to the January 6th Committee was this: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017e-1335-dee4-a5ff-ff3d3f310000 DRAFT - POTUS LETTER 3 ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT DRAFT LETTER FROM POTUS TO SEIZE EVIDENCE IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY FOR THE 2020 ELECTIONS DATE: 17 DEC 2020, AUTHORS: NONE LISTED ADDRESSEES: NONE ATTORNEY/CLIENT DOCUMENTS DRAFTED AND/OR EDITED BY ATTORNEY I wonder if this goes along with Mike Flynn’s recommendation for Donald Trump to seize all the voting machines in the country in the “interest of National Security”. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said: f the 1/6 Committee decides before investigating that there were no federal instigators on 1/6.. Ben, Again, What's your source that the FBI provoked the 1/6 riots? Boy, that Tucker special on that faded into obscurity. I assume you cared enough to watch it after recommending it so heartily to us. But we haven't heard you follow up on that. Obviously you could have. All you had to do was subscribe to Fox Nation for a month for free and drop it if they require payment afterward. Did you? Edited January 1, 2022 by Kirk Gallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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