Douglas Caddy Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Total Scores/Overall Rankings | C-SPAN Survey on Presidents 2021 | C-SPAN.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Robert Reich is a smart man and he is dead-on with that piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 Washington Examiner "Nancy Pelosi, husband buy call options worth millions in Google, Disney despite ethics concerns from party" by Barnini Chakraborty, Senior Investigations Reporter | December 31, 2021 WaPo "Pelosi announces plans for 'solemn observance' of first anniversary of the Jan. 6 insurrection" by By Amy B Wang / Jan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/nancy-pelosi-owns-january-6/ Interesting version of Jan. 6 events. My real question: Th Warren Commission decided, before "investigating," that LHO was the lone gunman, and everything devolved from that. We know the results of such a premise. If the 1/6 Committee decides before investigating that there were no federal instigators on 1/6...then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said: https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/nancy-pelosi-owns-january-6/ Interesting version of Jan. 6 events. My real question: Th Warren Commission decided, before "investigating," that LHO was the lone gunman, and everything devolved from that. We know the results of such a premise. If the 1/6 Committee decides before investigating that there were no federal instigators on 1/6...then what? Philip Zelicow supposedly worked out that the whole 9/11 conspiracy was carried by Al Qaeda, before doing any investigation. The commission was setup to show that. The science is that whoever is the architect of the study, and oversees the study, controls the outcome. Seeing a pattern here .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chris Barnard said: Philip Zelicow supposedly worked out that the whole 9/11 conspiracy was carried by Al Qaeda, before doing any investigation. The commission was setup to show that. The science is that whoever is the architect of the study, and oversees the study, controls the outcome. Seeing a pattern here .... If an official investigation confirms my biases, then it is good. If an official investigation does not confirm my biases, then it is ungood. If the M$M confirms my biases (which the M$M helped manufacture), then it is good.... Edited January 1, 2022 by Benjamin Cole typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said: If an official investigation confirms my biases, then it is good. If an official investigation does not confirm my biases, then it is ungood. If the M$M confirms my biases (which the M$M helped manufacture), then it is good.... Yup... Happy New Year Edited January 1, 2022 by Chris Barnard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 8:01 AM, Steve Thomas said: Ron, No. As of January 6th, Donald Trump was still the President. He would have invoked the Insurrection Act, suspended habeus corpus and arrested the entire Congress. He would have declared the entire election null and void due to massive "corruption", and declared himself the "ruler" until everything could be straightened out. Steve Thomas Among the items that Bernie Kerik refused to turn over to the January 6th Committee was this: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017e-1335-dee4-a5ff-ff3d3f310000 DRAFT - POTUS LETTER 3 ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT DRAFT LETTER FROM POTUS TO SEIZE EVIDENCE IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY FOR THE 2020 ELECTIONS DATE: 17 DEC 2020, AUTHORS: NONE LISTED ADDRESSEES: NONE ATTORNEY/CLIENT DOCUMENTS DRAFTED AND/OR EDITED BY ATTORNEY I wonder if this goes along with Mike Flynn’s recommendation for Donald Trump to seize all the voting machines in the country in the “interest of National Security”. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said: f the 1/6 Committee decides before investigating that there were no federal instigators on 1/6.. Ben, Again, What's your source that the FBI provoked the 1/6 riots? Boy, that Tucker special on that faded into obscurity. I assume you cared enough to watch it after recommending it so heartily to us. But we haven't heard you follow up on that. Obviously you could have. All you had to do was subscribe to Fox Nation for a month for free and drop it if they require payment afterward. Did you? Edited January 1, 2022 by Kirk Gallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said: Ben, Again, What's your source that the FBI provoked the 1/6 riots? Boy, that Tucker special on that faded into obscurity. I assume you cared enough to watch it after recommending it so heartily to us. But we haven't heard you follow up on that. Obviously you could have. All you had to do was subscribe to Fox Nation for a month for free and drop it if they require payment afterward. Did you? My own research, see the mysterious Christopher Alberts, the lone protestor to enter the Capitol with a firearm, but who was released on 1/7, and has not even been prosecuted since. The treatment of Alberts vs. Mr. Buffalo Horns...is fishier than the National Aquarium. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases then see also: https://www.revolver.news/2021/12/damning-new-details-massive-web-unindicted-operators-january-6/ and also https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/meet-ray-epps-the-fed-protected-provocateur-who-appears-to-have-led-the-very-first-1-6-attack-on-the-u-s-capitol/ This is a fair review, please see this first. They are fair independent journalists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjtFUf_P4cE&t=370s Kirk: the M$M and intel-state affiliated media is not investigating this event, and the federal government is not investigating this event. Indeed, there has been no investigation into who instigated the 1/6 scrum, or why the 3,500-member Capitol Police was so thinly deployed that day, and then stood down. The fact that there is no investigation into the cause of the 1/6 scrum does not mean they were no causes. The Warren Commission investigated LHO, and the Cheney Committee investigated 1/6. Happy New Year. A little more honey and little less vinegar in 2022! Remember, not everything is red v. blue, Donk v. 'Phant. You can be a big blueman or redman, but that has nothing to do with the JFKA. Same on the 1/6 scrum. For me, this ain't about politics. It is about a fabricated event. Keep an open mind. Edited January 2, 2022 by Benjamin Cole typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 23 hours ago, Steve Thomas said: Among the items that Bernie Kerik refused to turn over to the January 6th Committee was this: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017e-1335-dee4-a5ff-ff3d3f310000 DRAFT - POTUS LETTER 3 ATTORNEY WORK PRODUCT DRAFT LETTER FROM POTUS TO SEIZE EVIDENCE IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY FOR THE 2020 ELECTIONS DATE: 17 DEC 2020, AUTHORS: NONE LISTED ADDRESSEES: NONE ATTORNEY/CLIENT DOCUMENTS DRAFTED AND/OR EDITED BY ATTORNEY I wonder if this goes along with Mike Flynn’s recommendation for Donald Trump to seize all the voting machines in the country in the “interest of National Security”. Steve Thomas Chilling Trump Letter Calling For 'Seizure' Of Election Material Revealed In Log To Jan. 6 Probers "The letter was created a day before Trump discussed naming conspiracy theorist Sidney Powell "special counsel" to probe baseless election fraud claims." By Mary Papenfuss 01/01/2022 This article was based on an article which appeared in the 12/19-20/20 issuea of Politico Magazine https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/19/sidney-powell-trump-special-counsel-448694 “The letter was created Dec. 17, 2020, a day before Trump met in the Oval Office with advisers including retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn and discussed seizing election equipment in states Trump lost. Trump also discussed naming controversial far-right attorney and conspiracy theorist Sidney Powell as a “special counsel” to investigate alleged election fraud, The New York Times reported, but Trump didn’t follow through with it. Flynn had already suggested Trump could invoke martial law to seize control of the election.” Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 . While Steve posts a story about the most powerful man in the most powerful country in the world calling for the seizing of election materials in states that he lost. Ben launches into his 57th Ray Epps post with the same 5 links. His most used link that invoked Antifa in their article is Revolver, a pro Trump site that, has advocated shooting people to quell violence in Louisville following the Breonna Taylor verdict in September. Revolver.News, A Right-Wing Website Endorsed By Trump, Calls For Shooting Protestors Ben, You didn't answer my question. I would think it would have been important for you to watch the Tucker series you were spinning. So no new evidence. Seen it all. Ray Epps and bullhorn guy all over again. I see you're sucked into the spin of the right. That the AG won't comment on an ongoing investigation is just the way things are done in this country. And of course the questioner may be your favorite congressman, but is the pipsqueak congressman who armed his family for a seasons greetings card, which should tell you about the arc of effectiveness of his political career and your judgment. Obviously anyone trying to incite a riot should be exposed and prosecuted."Keep an open mind" would be fine . But you aren't. You're making the assumption that 1. the allegations are true, which haven't been proven.This is a lead that you've brought up many times, and we've bounced it around a bit now, and from what you're telling me, there are no new developments. But then you leverage that unproven allegation to further assert that 2 ) that the 1/6 committee knows it's true and 3. the committee is covering up. One of the true highlights of this super thread is Ben's "I have a dream for America speech" where he prays for the Trumpies to reform the Republican Party! I think you might do some further research to find out who these people are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Joseph McBride will probably appreciate Robert Reich's New Year's Day op ed about Frank Capra's film, It's a Wonderful Life, as a metaphor for the conflict between social democracy and social Darwinism in modern America. Robert Reich has the perfect answer to Trumpism https://www.rawstory.com/robert-reich-has-the-perfect-answer-to-trumpism/ January 1, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 "May you live in interesting times." We do! 2022 is going to be one we never forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 The Last Liberal Republican: An Insider's Perspective on Nixon's Surprising Social Policy: Price, John Roy: 9780700632053: Amazon.com: Books "The Last Liberal Republican provides a blow-by-blow inside view of how Nixon surprised the Democrats and shocked conservatives with his ambitious proposal for a guaranteed family income. Beyond Nixon’s surprising embrace of what we today call universal basic income, the thirty-seventh president reordered and vastly expanded the patchy food stamp program he inherited and built nutrition education and children’s food services into schools. Richard Nixon even almost achieved a national health insurance program: fifty years ago, with a private sector framework as part of his generous benefits insurance coverage for all, Nixon included coverage of preexisting conditions, prescription drug coverage for all, and federal subsidies for those who could not afford the premiums." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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