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2 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

Ben, you keep referring to the donks in a derogatory manner.  JFK was a Donk.  If your impartial why do you never refer to his opponents in such fashion?  Makes me wonder if you work for the coches.

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Yes, I refer to the Donks in a negative manner as (IMHO) they have been totally immersed in the national security state, and beholden to their globalist donor class---a betrayal of their roots. Add on the Donk compulsions to divisive and offensive ID-politics....

But I have said many times the 'Phants are no better, through there may be some scant hope for the populist wing of the GOP. 

But ask yourself: Why is the donk-centric Rolling Stone not even reviewing, but merely ridiculing JFK Revisited

I have said many times JFK was the last great president; Bush jr. the worst of all time IMHO).

But Eisenhower was very underrated...Remember his Farewell Speech, the zenith of clarity and content. 

As I say, shed your party affiliations, your red-blue hats, your culture wars. 

There is a purple party, and an allied media. 

I am less worried about a bunch of lulus in the Capitol on 1/6, than the vast and global apparatus of the national security state....

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       This is a must see 60 Minutes story about how Trump and Putin lied in 2017 about Russian hacking of our 2016 U.S. election, and how a decorated U.S. military veteran spent four years in prison for exposing Trump's lies to the American people about the Russian hack job.

       It's especially galling to consider that Reality Winner spent four years in prison for true patriotism, while Trump's Russiagate accomplices-- Michael Flynn, Manafort, and Roger Stone-- were pardoned for betraying the country.

 

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4 hours ago, Matt Allison said:

Michael Flynn's brother is Commanding General of the Pacific Army and may have played a key role in the coup plot by delaying a response to the Capitol riot:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/12/06/jan-6-generals-lied-ex-dc-guard-official-523777

Birds sharing common feathers flock together.

And/or, rotten apples produce bad seeds.

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15 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

Ben, you keep referring to the donks in a derogatory manner.  JFK was a Donk.  If your impartial why do you never refer to his opponents in such fashion?  Makes me wonder if you work for the coches.

Hey Ron,

I know this is at Ben, however, I wonder who of the American national's here can claim to be impartial, without bias? It's very difficult isn't it? With a lifetime of conditioning sharping our thoughts and opinions. Most of us inherit so much of our outlook from our parents, of course there are exceptions to the rule. It is true that JFK was a Democrat but, a good question might be; how would his policies be viewed today, vs the present Dems or Republicans? Would he want to be associated with either party? What would he agree with that Biden or Trump have done? I think he'd be turning in his grave looking at the era after he passed and despairing as it gets worse. 

I also think a comparison between the politics of JFK, RFK & EMK would be interesting too. Was JFK restraining his politics because he knew that America wasn't ready for it, wouldn't accept it without it being eased in incrementally. Bobby seems like he wanted to take things much further, he was more raw. 

I am an outsider, we have our own biases in my own country of birth, which I have done my best to shake, becoming increasingly liberal as I age. 

Cheers,

Chris

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Steve,

    If I had to slide down chimneys on Christmas Ever in arch-conservative, gun-toting El Paso County, Colorado, I'd probably get a concealed carry gun permit too.   Landing on roofs with reindeer must be dangerous down there. 🤥

    As for the 60 Minutes story about Reality Winner last night, I should mention that one of the most disturbing revelations was the part about the Trump administration's NSA failing to inform the FEC in 2017 about their intelligence on Russian hacking. 

    If I heard the 60 Minutes story correctly, the FEC didn't even know about the Russian hacking of voter data bases in the U.S. until Reality Winner leaked the NSA intel to The Intercept!  Winner's leak may have helped secure our 2018 mid-term elections from Russian hackers.

    Regardless, the Trump administration threw the book at Reality Winner for exposing Trump's lies about the 2016 Russian hack.

    James Risen wrote about this issue at The Intercept in February of 2019.

The Leaks That Trump’s Justice Department Prosecutes Are Mostly About Trump, His Cronies, and Russia

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/27/trump-russia-leaks-mueller-investigation/

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6 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Steve,

    If I had to slide down chimneys on Christmas Ever in arch-conservative, gun-toting El Paso County, Colorado, I'd probably get a concealed carry gun permit too.   Landing on roofs with reindeer must be dangerous down there. 🤥

    As for the 60 Minutes story about Reality Winner last night, I should mention that one of the most disturbing revelations was the part about the Trump administration's NSA failing to inform the FEC in 2017 about their intelligence on Russian hacking. 

    If I heard the 60 Minutes story correctly, the FEC didn't even know about the Russian hacking of voter data bases in the U.S. until Reality Winner leaked the NSA intel to The Intercept!  Winner's leak may have helped secure our 2018 mid-term elections from Russian hackers.

    Regardless, the Trump administration threw the book at Reality Winner for exposing Trump's lies about the 2016 Russian hack.

    James Risen wrote about this issue at The Intercept in February of 2019.

The Leaks That Trump’s Justice Department Prosecutes Are Mostly About Trump, His Cronies, and Russia

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/27/trump-russia-leaks-mueller-investigation/

Word is that The Intercept revealed Reality Winner as the source of the leak to federal officials, either through callousness, or intentionally. 

From the Wikipedia entry:

"Federal agents found her diary during a search of her home, in which she allegedly expressed support for Taliban leaders and Osama bin Laden, and for burning down the White House.[30] The U.S. magistrate judge who presided over Winner's bail hearing, Brian Epps, said, "She seems to have a fascination with the Middle East and Islamic terrorism," and quoted her writing: "It's a Christlike vision to have a fundamentalist Islamic state."[30] However, one of the prosecutors at her bail hearing said, "The government is not in any way suggesting the defendant has become a jihadist or that she is a Taliban sympathizer."[31]

Arrest[edit]

Winner was arrested on June 3, 2017. When her house was searched and she was initially questioned, Winner stated that she had a pink AR-15, a 9-millimeter Glock, and a "15 gauge" shotgun, as well as two pets: a foster dog and a cat. She stated she "wasn't trying to be a Snowden or anything".[32]

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Let me guess. If Reality Winner becomes part of an anti-Trump narrative, then the pink AR-15 is not important. 

If she is a Trump supporter, then the pink AR-15 is proof of what a violent kook and nut she is....

 

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3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Well, Donks and 'Phants are how I refer to the purple party, that is the Democrats and Republicans. 

 

Sure, because there are no real differences between Democrats and Republicans-- except when it comes to tax cuts for corporations and the 1%, funding for education, Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, scientific research, clean energy and infrastructure, environmental protection, climate change mitigation, gun control, public health measures during deadly pandemics, voting rights, civil rights, women's rights, and LGBT rights.

Other than that, the "Donks" and the 'Phants are identical... 🤥

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2 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Sure, because there are no real differences between Democrats and Republicans-- except when it comes to tax cuts for corporations and the 1%, funding for education, Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, scientific research, clean energy and infrastructure, environmental protection, climate change mitigation, gun control, public health measures during deadly pandemics, voting rights, civil rights, women's rights, and LGBT rights.

Other than that, the "Donks" and the 'Phants are identical... 🤥

Well, we could argue each issue, but the purple party is beholden to its donor class...the same class. 

Many issues are multi-faceted. If you care about human rights, do you go with supine Obama-Wall Street-NBA-Disney position on China, or with Trump? 

I am totally onboard with true civil rights---does that mean drinking the woke kool-aid? (Yes, in Donk circles).

Who wants more state-mandated social media censorship? Hillary Clinton, and not a few other Donks, are calling for "gatekeepers." 

I abhor AR-15s, Reality Winner's pink one or otherwise. On the other hand, if the government does not keep citizens safe, or keep safe streets (except for better-off neighborhoods)....can you blame people for buying weapons? 

I just don't see the good guys here, although I do see a lot of PR.

PS I got vaxxed twice, and it took an effort where I live. That said, the various strategies of different nations on the pandemic all seem to end up in the same place.  Nothing really works, or perhaps only delays the inevitable for a few months.

The US federal government has been fear-mongering on C19, but why? 

No, I do not think there is an ulterior motive, aside from the fact the public health bureaucracy is doing what the defense bureaucracy alway does----highlight dangers. You are never safe. 

But to advocate "time to move on" on C19, as I do, is to be labelled a nativist hillbilly.

And to suspect C19 came from a lab in Wuhan is to be a Trump-lulu conspiracy nut. 

You can keep these two parties. I want something better. 

 

 

 

 

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Ben:You can keep these two parties. I want something better. 

 

Well, I appreciate your idealism. But, you're just American Dreaming  again, Ben. You'll never be a citizen anyway .Why waste a thought on it, much less endless posts.?

Maybe in another lifetime?

Or maybe you just want the best for us? That's very touching!

 

I don't think we can pull any strings though.

 

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