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https://greenwald.substack.com/p/congresss-16-committee-claims-absolute

Interesting perspective on the investigative authority and power of the 1/6 committee. 

I was unaware the 1/6 committee can seize phone and bank records without a warrant or judicial review, or telling the people whose records were seized.

Yes, I remain skeptical of official state-M$M-media narratives regarding 1/6. 

There was a time when liberals disliked prosecutorial abuse or all-powerful Congressional "investigative" bodies. HUAC and all that. The ACLU actually used to defend freedom of speech.  

I understand for many, Trump was and is a polarizing figure. That is fine, all points of view have their merits. 

But after 9/11, the globalist security state was emboldened.  But there is always room for an even large number and body of intel agencies. See the phony 1/6 "insurrection." 

Sadly, probably this fight is over, and the civil libertarians have lost. The M$M is all in on a panopticon police state, along with globalist Donk lackies, and old-guard GOP authoritarians. 

Almost none of the true lessons of the JFKA have been learned. 

 

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2 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Hmmm....  Was this another "Deep State" op to purge patriots?   🤥

Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics/trump-campaign-officials-rudy-giuliani-fake-electors/index.html

January 20, 2022

 

Yo, Ben, have Tucker Carlson and Glenn Greenwald explained this new Deep State false flag op yet?

It looks like Trump and Rudy Giuliani were tricked into forging electoral ballots in several states in order to enable the Deep State to purge more patriots...  🤥

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10 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

Yo, Ben, have Tucker Carlson and Glenn Greenwald explained this new Deep State false flag op yet?

It looks like Trump and Rudy Giuliani were tricked into forging electoral ballots in several states in order to enable the Deep State to purge more patriots...  🤥

W.-

I trust the reporting of Glenn Greenwald more than that of M$M outfits, such as CNN.

Tucker Carlson---well, sort of a hit-or-miss. 

Carlson allows ideological or partisan dogma to cloud his views sometimes----IMHO.  

A lesson for us all, in Carlson? 

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Ben- You trust Russia-sympathetic Glenn Greenwald more than actual journalists?

My goodness. Sounds like you're conclusion-shopping rather actually looking for the truth.

There are plenty of verifiable facts that demonstrate there was a plot by Trump and his fellow conspirators to overthrow the United States. Watching those facts be laid out in prime-time on television is going to be a special kind of great.

I'll remind you once again, you're posting on a board that has a bevy of intelligent people, all of whom have familiarity with the ways conspiracies can be hatched. No ignorant rubes here...

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40 minutes ago, Matt Allison said:

Ben- You trust Russia-sympathetic Glenn Greenwald more than actual journalists?

My goodness. Sounds like you're conclusion-shopping rather actually looking for the truth.

There are plenty of verifiable facts that demonstrate there was a plot by Trump and his fellow conspirators to overthrow the United States. Watching those facts be laid out in prime-time on television is going to be a special kind of great.

I'll remind you once again, you're posting on a board that has a bevy of intelligent people, all of whom have familiarity with the ways conspiracies can be hatched. No ignorant rubes here...

"Ben- You trust Russia-sympathetic Glenn Greenwald more than actual journalists?"---Matt

Yes, I trust Glenn Greenwald more than "actual journalists"---is that your description of people who work in M$M? 

I get a kind of Alice in Wonderland feeling. 

Dan Rather, Hugh Aynesworth, and Tim Weiner are "actual journalists." 

Yes, I trust unaffiliated outsiders like Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi or Aaron Mate more than M$M. That seems reasonable to me. 

I even harbor suspicions that Liz Cheney may present statist narratives rather than real truths.  Perhaps I am beyond redemption. 

 

 

 

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Draft Executive Order authorizing the Secretary of Defense to

"seize, collect, retain and analyze all machines, equipment, electronically stored information, and material records required for retention under” a U.S. law that relates to preservation of election records.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/21/read-the-never-issued-trump-order-that-would-have-seized-voting-machines-527572

 (7) Thee appointment of a Special Counsel to oversee this operation and institute all criminal and civil proceedings as appropriate based on the evidence collected and provided all resources necessary to carry out her duties consistent with federal laws and the Constitution.

Her duties?

Her duties?

Who's duties are Her duties?

Hello Sydney Powell.

Steve Thomas

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        Historically, Republicans have supported voting rights-- since 1965-- even as recently as 2006, when 17 Senate Republicans who just voted against this week's John Lewis Freedom to Vote Act voted to re-affirm the Voting Rights Act.

        So, what happened to the GOP after 2006?  What explains the newfound GOP sabotage of the Voting Rights Act, beginning with the 5-4 Republican SCOTUS vote in Shelby v. Holder (2013) to block enforcement of the VRA on the grounds that it was no longer necessary?

        In a nutshell, it's about Koch control of the GOP after 2009.

        The Koch's Heritage Foundation has been the driving force behind state GOP voter suppression bills, and the recent Senate sabotage of the John Lewis Freedom to Vote Act.

Conservative Lobby Groups Prevail as Senate Keeps the Filibuster

While it lobbied to kneecap federal voting rights reform, Heritage Action helped write a host of state-level voter suppression bills.

https://theintercept.com/2022/01/21/voting-rights-filibuster-senate-conservative-lobbying/

January 21, 2022

 

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23 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Hmmm....  Was this another "Deep State" op to purge patriots?   🤥

Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics/trump-campaign-officials-rudy-giuliani-fake-electors/index.html

January 20, 2022

 

Thanks for linking this.  I thought it was an important development when the story first broke but had seen nothing more.  This makes it clear that it was an organized effort, originating in the Whitehouse sphere.

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On 1/20/2022 at 5:03 PM, Benjamin Cole said:

The New Donk hero. 

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Congress's 1/6 Committee Claims Absolute Power as it Investigates Citizens With No Judicial Limits

News alert. Congress isn't a judicial body. They can't take your liberty away and send you to prison. They aren't restricted in many areas because of that fact. Sorry.

Civics lesson of the day.

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On 1/20/2022 at 6:18 PM, Benjamin Cole said:

W.-

I trust the reporting of Glenn Greenwald more than that of M$M outfits, such as CNN.

Tucker Carlson---well, sort of a hit-or-miss. 

Carlson allows ideological or partisan dogma to cloud his views sometimes----IMHO.  

A lesson for us all, in Carlson? 

Carlson is a journalist? Come on Ben he's opinion hack and doesn't hide the fact. My God, man.

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2 minutes ago, Bob Ness said:

News alert. Congress isn't a judicial body. They can't take your liberty away and send you to prison. They aren't restricted in many areas because of that fact. Sorry.

Civics lesson of the day.

Yes, but the Congress can seize all your phone, internet, banking, business or organizational records, and subpoena you to appear before Congress. 

And you are incorrect, the Congress can imprison someone who refuses to honor a subpoena.  

"There are several ways members of Congress can do this:

1) They can tell the House or Senate sergeant-at-arms to detain or imprison the person in contempt until he or she honors congressional demands. This is called "inherent contempt." But it's extremely rare and hasn't happened in modern times."--CNN

Barring the direct imprisonment of a citizen, the Congress can ask the Executive Branch to do the imprisoning.

"Congress can vote on criminal contempt, then make a referral to the executive branch -- headed by the President -- to try to get the person criminally prosecuted. A month or more jail sentence is a possibility if a witness won't comply, under the law. This is the approach members of Congress have indicated publicly they'd want to pursue."---CNN

OK, so if you do not comply with Congress, they can have the executive branch imprison you. I assume after a  court order, although it is not clear. 

In any event, having seized your phone, text, internet, business, organizational and banking records, the Congress can splash those in front of public committee hearings, where they control the timing and content of releases, and provide other context. 

This may all seem fine and dandy now to some....but....

One thing to ponder: Right now, the betting is the Trump-GOP will sweep the 2022 elections, and win back control of House and Senate.

Then the often nutty GOP'ers will issuing the Congressional subpoenas, and possibly conducting an impeachment proceeding of Biden.  

Well, the 'Phant Congress will offer some diversions from the humdrum of plebeian life...as do the Donks.

The DC Gong Show continues....

 

 

 

 

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Yes Bob, Actually Tucker was Ben's hero!. He took out a thread here to endorse him at one point. He seems to have peered a little more beyond the surface of late

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.Ben has completely exhausted his 3 sources, his theories now thoroughly debunked, and  like Trump himself, is desperately looking for bias confirming websites.

And now tracing the timeline. Ben posted a Ray Epps story from a website  source Trump earlier used  a week ago in his recent speech in Arizona. Wow, how original!

And now what is Ben  left to do?  Pull out his picture of Liz Cheney with the Democrats.

Ben: . It's da donks!  Da donks  have been taken over by Liz Cheney and the NSS "DEEP STATE!,

Cant you see? Ben's got photo evidence!

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Ben, You don't think we can see you've done this song and dance for last 9 months. Can't you just approach people sincerely, even if you don't agree with them ? You know we've been snipping at Liz Cheney and her Dad since long before you ever came here.  Stop acting like LBJ's guy  who "can't walk and chew gum at the same time". You know the strange bedfellows situation that  going on with that.

In reality, Ben has much more in common with Liz Cheney than any of us. If Ben could have voted in the U.S. 2016 and 2020 elections, His votes would have been identical to Liz Cheney. He would have voted both elections for Trump.

 

 

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