Benjamin Cole Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Steve Thomas said: Trump wanted to ‘neutralize' the presidential chain of succession by seizing power at the Capitol: By Bob Brigham July 02, 2022 https://www.rawstory.com/trump-wanted-to-neutralize-the-presidential-chain-of-succession-by-seizing-power-at-the-capitol-expert/ Finally, somebody articulated what I have thought all along. If Trump could have taken out Pence and Pelosi at the same time, the Presidential line of succession would have been broken, and Trump would have been in control of the second branch of government as well. Steve Thomas Somehow, I doubt Trump had any chance of pulling this off. Maybe with the help of Mr Buffalo Horns... Query: Do you think Trump (and not the vast shadow government) arranged for Capitol security to be scant, and then stand down on 1/6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 55 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said: I doubt Trump had any chance of pulling this off. I don't foresee that making his prison sentence any more lenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Richard Price Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Benjamin Cole said: Query: Do you think Trump (and not the vast shadow government) arranged for Capitol security to be scant, and then stand down on 1/6? Yes. Can you show any different? Trump was (supposedly) the commander in chief. In a normal administration, one command from POTUS and there could have been plenty of enforcement in place almost immediately. In this case, HIS personally appointed lackeys were the leaders of all the agencies needed. They way they crawl to kiss his (A$$) ring, the crowd could have been dispersed with ONE word from him as well, but what we got was SILENCE. No phone calls, no tweets, no immediate speech, NOTHING! When you see what he did to get a photo op carrying a bible in front of a church and substitute this situation, you can plainly see the difference. On January 6 he didn't even ask if they could "just shoot them in the knees", these people were "loved". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 34 minutes ago, Matt Allison said: So, Ornato's word is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Richard Price said: Yes. Can you show any different? Trump was (supposedly) the commander in chief. In a normal administration, one command from POTUS and there could have been plenty of enforcement in place almost immediately. In this case, HIS personally appointed lackeys were the leaders of all the agencies needed. They way they crawl to kiss his (A$$) ring, the crowd could have been dispersed with ONE word from him as well, but what we got was SILENCE. No phone calls, no tweets, no immediate speech, NOTHING! When you see what he did to get a photo op carrying a bible in front of a church and substitute this situation, you can plainly see the difference. On January 6 he didn't even ask if they could "just shoot them in the knees", these people were "loved". RP-- Actually, the 3,500-officer Capitol Police does not report to the POTUS. They are operated by the legislative branch of Congress. Why Capitol security was so scant on 1/6 remains an open question, and also why they stood down mid-event. Why the commander of the Capitol Police civil disturbance unit was home making meatloaf (per WaPo) on 1/6 is worth a query. NPR on 1/5 was broadcasting that violence was anticipated at the Capitol. In addition, the 2,500-officer DC Metro Police report to DC officials. Both police departments reported the Democratic Party officials on 1/6. There seems to be endless red-blue finger-pointing on why the National Guard was not called out. Jonathan Turley says the Trump Administration offered NG troops four days prior to 1/6, and was refused, or ignored, or perhaps there was just ordinary bungling. The Donks had made a big, big, big stink about some 'Phants who had called for NG troops during the BLM riots. So perhaps the Donks felt they would look like hypocrites if they called out the NG prior to 1/6. IMHO--I am confident the 1/6 Cheney-crat Committee will not get to the bottom of the matter. But who knows? There are two days of the TV show left. Maybe we will get an answer on how Mr. Orange-Do convinced the Donk-controlled Capitol Police to stand down on 1/6. Another bombshell. Explosive. Worse than Mr. Buffalo Horns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 34 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: So, Ornato's word is worthless. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Ben- You sound rather frantic. Perhaps you could use a stress pill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 6/20/2022 at 10:24 AM, Benjamin Cole said: Interesting to ponder Trump's future. 1. Father Time is catching up. 2. If imprisoned, Trump will emerge a martyr. 3. If not imprisoned, Trump will try a comeback. 4.Merrick Garland, a Donk apparatchik, may choose to not prosecute Trump, for a lot of reasons. But foremost, the Donks may figure if Trump is behind bars, then another more-viable 'Phant candidate will emerge, such as DeSantis of Florida. Ergo, Trump will be left un-prosecuted in the hopes he will weaken the 2024 'Phant ticket. Trump should not be allowed to hold office again. Hopefully, the Republican party will realize that too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Ben hasn't been promoting Tucker Carlson's "patriot purge" narrative about January 6th recently, but look at this. It's almost beyond belief. (Can't vouch for the validity of the poll.) NEW POLL: Whopping 68% of Fox News Viewers Blame Jan. 6 on ‘Left-Wing Protesters Trying To Make Trump Look Bad’www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/new-poll-whopping-68-of-fox-news-viewers-blame-jan-6-on-left-wing-protesters-trying-to-make-trump-look-bad/ar-AAZ7cqA?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=66e7fcf7e78a46909088cd7dd42f51a2 July 2, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 57 minutes ago, Richard Price said: Yes. Can you show any different? Trump was (supposedly) the commander in chief. In a normal administration, one command from POTUS and there could have been plenty of enforcement in place almost immediately. In this case, HIS personally appointed lackeys were the leaders of all the agencies needed. They way they crawl to kiss his (A$$) ring, the crowd could have been dispersed with ONE word from him as well, but what we got was SILENCE. No phone calls, no tweets, no immediate speech, NOTHING! When you see what he did to get a photo op carrying a bible in front of a church and substitute this situation, you can plainly see the difference. On January 6 he didn't even ask if they could "just shoot them in the knees", these people were "loved". Isn't there a criminal offense called "aiding & abetting? Your supporters, your people are violently attacking the Capital building, seriously injuring dozens of Capital police ( who are desperately radioing in for reinforcement help ) , smashing through entrance doors and windows, ripping apart the inside of the Capital building offices, terrorizing and traumatizing our entire congress in the building and you watch this attack for "3 hours" on TV without taking any action to call off your attack dogs, even though everyone around you including your own family are pleading for you to do so? And you "know" one word from you to this raging mob to "STOP"- on your part could have ended this violent attack hours before it ended...and you instead watch TV coverage of it...with glee! This Capital building attack mob were your worked up supporters! They hung on your every word! You were their hero. Their savior! You could have ended the attack! If there isn't a highest crime charge here regards Trump's purposeful constitutional duty neglect to stop the violence ...what can anyone in this country say? Time for righteously important justice here folks...don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Well, fwiw, a RERUN of last Tuesday's hearing outdrew the Fox Prime Lineup the other night, to give you an idea of which direction Fox "News" is trending... And the actual live daytime hearing drew 13 million viewers, which is absolutely staggering for a daytime tv program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Trump and Guiliani have always had an especially close relationship from way back. 0:41NOW PLAYING Donald Trump Flirts With Rudy Giuliani in drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Matt Allison said: Ben- You sound rather frantic. Perhaps you could use a stress pill? Matt: Actually, I have lived offshore too long, and everything in the US begins to look like political theater and comic opera. Evidently, the US is now embroiled in disputes, based on hearsay evidence, on whether the President lunged at the wheel of "The Beast," or possibly another another vehicle and not The Beast, alongside false reports that there were armed mobs attacking the Capitol. I have no stake in Trump. I liked some of his macroeconomic policies and still do. Let Merrick Garland, a Donk apparatchik, do whatever. If Trump goes to jail after a fair trial, or if he skates, fine. You seem to have an emotional stake in Trump's outcome. I understand in the US Trump is a polarizing figure, and to the establishment, an outsider. Trump has inflamed partisan emotions, further fanned by the M$M. No doubt you think you are morally superior and more intelligent than Trump supporters. They think the same thing about you. I am not assessing the never-ending Trump saga through the red-blue narratives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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