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59 minutes ago, John Butler said:

This is a tranquil scene with no hint of violence.  From here at about Z 175 to Z 313 is about 138 frames or 7.5 seconds.  The assassination with this range as the range is well within the official story or at least close to it.  I'm not sure this is out from under the trees and visible to the 6th floor. 

There is a strange reflection on the trunk.  It is a very clear reflection of the TSBD and a tree trunk/tree visible there.  What I find strange is that the passenger side of the car shows this clear reflection and the driver's side of the car does not show a bright, clear reflection, but is instead murky.  The sun is coming more or less from the south and west.  There should be a nice bright reflection there showing the SW corner of Elm and Main.  From the angle of the sun I don't see, but should see that area clearly.

John...  I don't think you realize how loud it was.... DP is like a bowl with the buildings at the east end + the one bldg on Elm, acting as echo makers.

The DPD Harley's were very loud and just behind the limo....   these machines are spitting and popping, backfiring and revving...  that first shot circa Shaneyfelt 157 along with the other shooters - only some of which with silencers - would allow 3 shots to sound like 1 with minimal overlap...

The point though was to incriminate Oswald in a Castro conspiracy to kill JFK... shots on top of each other as Kellerman's "flurry" suggests were to be expected, until a Conspiracy was not what they wanted...  The recanting and treatment of Alvarado in Mexico gives us some idea of how badly they needed off his story of the $6500 and red-headed negro.

Regarding the reflection, The TSBD is right there buddy.... the orange on the truck has the tree trunk in front of it and in front of that are the very short squat reflections of the people....

The angle is very low but enough the catch the bottom 2 floors of the TSBD...

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19 hours ago, Richard Price said:

in my mind it seems implausible unless the weapon is silenced

Remembering that the CIA had this set up as a Cuban conspiracy, multiple shooters and shots too close together would be the point of creating a conspiracy... Oswald and others shooting JFK...  but that ended quickly - no better an example is Alvarado in Mexico and what when on until he recanted his story.

My thought now is that with 3 or even 4 shooters - why would they use silencers if the idea was to implicate a Cuban conspiracy? unless that was just talk to keep the hounds at bay... then I could imagine 1 shooter without and all the others with a silenced weapon ---like the De Lisle Carbine

Found this weapon from WWII...

 

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Paul, I sort of agree with John that this picture shows what I think is the last moment before the nightmare begins.  The question is, has the 1st shot (of those that hit their mark) just been fired or about to be fired.  You are correct about Connally, for sure, he is somber, but I think he was for most of the trip after he found out he was riding in front of JFK.  To me, Jackie seems to have a slight smile as she faces the few people on her side of the car.  This is the picture that started me to think the SS might be involved.  The driver's right hand is reaching for something on the center area of the dash.  I know this could be completely innocent, but the timing as with many things just seems odd.  I really need to see if there is a good picture with enough definition to it to determine what he is reaching for.  I think I posted something along those lines many years ago either here or at JFK Lancer, but don't recall getting any replies.  In any event, once you start getting paranoid looking at all the anomalies, you "see" things everywhere even when they aren't there.

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4 minutes ago, David Josephs said:

John...  I don't think you realize how loud it was.... DP is like a bowl with the buildings at the east end + the one bldg on Elm, acting as echo makers.

The DPD Harley's were very loud and just behind the limo....   these machines are spitting and popping, backfiring and revving...  that first shot circa Shaneyfelt 157 along with the other shooters - only some of which with silencers - would allow 3 shots to sound like 1 with minimal overlap...

The point though was to incriminate Oswald in a Castro conspiracy to kill JFK... shots on top of each other as Kellerman's "flurry" suggests were to be expected, until a Conspiracy was not what they wanted...  The recanting and treatment of Alvarado in Mexico gives us some idea of how badly they needed off his story of the $6500 and red-headed negro.

Regarding the reflection, The TSBD is right there buddy.... the orange on the truck has the tree trunk in front of it and in front of that are the very short squat reflections of the people....

The angle is very low but enough the catch the bottom 2 floors of the TSBD...

88952901_TSBDonlimotrunk.jpg.ca74dff45e4c080fc03f8a7c3fbf1ed7.jpg

Remembering that the CIA had this set up as a Cuban conspiracy, multiple shooters and shots too close together would be the point of creating a conspiracy... Oswald and others shooting JFK...  but that ended quickly - no better an example is Alvarado in Mexico and what when on until he recanted his story.

My thought now is that with 3 or even 4 shooters - why would they use silencers if the idea was to implicate a Cuban conspiracy? unless that was just talk to keep the hounds at bay... then I could imagine 1 shooter without and all the others with a silenced weapon ---like the De Lisle Carbine

Found this weapon from WWII...

 

Yes, I agree.  I don't think all the weapons were silenced/muffled, just the one(s) being used in easily identifiable positions.  The plan did include the shooters (at least some of them) getting away.  That one or some were to be sacrificed was, I think above the sacrificial lamb(s) pay grade.  Compartmentalization.

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